U.S. Plans Test of Military Draft

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

Wait, isn't it generally accepted that Generation X is the laziest generation? I'm lookin in your direction big guy.

Actually I was reading an article recently that stated that while Gen Xers as employees had no company loyalty, they were generally hard working and had realistic expectations.

Gen Yers are prone to fits of immediate gratification. They want immediate reviews, immediate followup and feedback, and don't want to wait for promotions or work towards them because it takes too long

[Trotskilicious]

You know what's interesting is the relationship between the draft and the anti-war movement. It seems that unless there is a possibilty that any young person could go at any moment, no one really seems to care about protesting in huge numbers and doing counter-cultural things. Maybe the reinstatement of the draft would spark a new era of creativity and inspiration like it did in the 60s. Or maybe we'd just run amok and loot Best Buy.

Originally Posted by Corganist

I just think a lot of people would be more apt to fight for their right to stay lazy than they would be to let themselves get drafted and let the military shape them up into useful citizens

How dumb is this comment? There's the assumption that the military makes everyone useful (it doesn't: you get out what you put in, like college), there is the assumtion that a particular generation is lazier than the rest (I don't even know how you quantify that), and then there is the hilarious fact that Corganist isn't lining up at the recruitment centers to go out and fight for his rights in Iraq. I mean, really, dude, can it.

Originally Posted by Corganist

I'm not saying that I think the military would actually shape people up.

That's funny because:

Originally Posted by Corganist

the military [would] shape them up into useful citizens

That's exactly what you said! I mean who the fuck are you, Republican John Kerry? You backed away from the original statment immediately.

Originally Posted by Corganist

It seems that the people who crow loudest about how people need to be patriots and die in some senseless war, are the same ones who sit back on their asses and do nothing at all.

The fact that you have to clarify this should go a long way explaining why your original comment was kind of confused to begin with.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Gen Yers are prone to fits of immediate gratification. They want immediate reviews, immediate followup and feedback, and don't want to wait for promotions or work towards them because it takes too long

Isn't that more indicative of spoiling than laziness?

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Isn't that more indicative of spoiling than laziness?

Yes, they are lazy as a result of being spoiled and getting trophies for 5th place

[Trotskilicious]

man i never got any trophies for fifth place

i think you're getting your generations confused there, old man.

[Corganist]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

How dumb is this comment? There's the assumption that the military makes everyone useful (it doesn't: you get out what you put in, like college), there is the assumtion that a particular generation is lazier than the rest (I don't even know how you quantify that), and then there is the hilarious fact that Corganist isn't lining up at the recruitment centers to go out and fight for his rights in Iraq. I mean, really, dude, can it.



That's funny because:



That's exactly what you said! I mean who the fuck are you, Republican John Kerry? You backed away from the original statment immediately.

Why didn't you quote all of what I actually said? The last part of my original statement was "like Nimrod seems to be suggesting." I wasn't saying that I thought the military would universally shape people up. I said that view was what I took Nimrod's view to be, and I was disagreeing with it.

Seriously, sometimes I think you guys see my name come up in a thread and immediately come up with what you think my "evil Republican" view on the matter is before you even read my posts. ("Oh that bastard Corganist, I'm sure he just loves the military and sees no problems with a draft. Piece of GOP loving scum that he is.") And if I don't actually say something that conforms to that, then you just pretend I did anyway. Give me a break. I can't be wrong all the time.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Corganist

No. I just think a lot of people would be more apt to fight for their right to stay lazy than they would be to let themselves get drafted and let the military shape them up into useful citizens like Nimrod seems to be suggesting.

I mainly meant the lazy shiftless assholes who demand their freedom but wouldn't lift a finger to defend it, nor feel the need to study history before 1980

the main point though is more dead/overseas guys = more pussy for the rest of us

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Corganist

Give me a break. I can't be wrong all the time.

srsly. he's not sleeper for fuck's sake

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

You know what's interesting is the relationship between the draft and the anti-war movement. It seems that unless there is a possibilty that any young person could go at any moment, no one really seems to care about protesting in huge numbers and doing counter-cultural things. Maybe the reinstatement of the draft would spark a new era of creativity and inspiration like it did in the 60s. Or maybe we'd just run amok and loot Best Buy.

I dedicated alot of time protesting the war. I dropped out because I don't think peaceful protesting will change anything. If there is any sort of counter cultural movement this time around, I think it will be more violent and alot of anarchist or (close to anarchist) type groups will spring up. IE: The world cannot wait is bordering on the anarchist activities. At least some of people involved in that group has been.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by To Starla

I dedicated alot of time protesting the war. I dropped out because I don't think peaceful protesting will change anything. If there is any sort of counter cultural movement this time around, I think it will be more violent and alot of anarchist or (close to anarchist) type groups will spring up. IE: The world cannot wait is bordering on the anarchist activities. At least some of people involved in that group has been.

unfortunately the ones who could throw a real revolution are written off by the left as "right wing nutjobs" and the ATF kills them

[Starla]

hey nim

whatcha gonna do if they draft you?

[Trotskilicious]

He's over 30. I know it's crazy that a man who's 36 would hang out with teenagers and twenty somethings but he's pretty pathetic.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Corganist

Why didn't you quote all of what I actually said? The last part of my original statement was "like Nimrod seems to be suggesting." I wasn't saying that I thought the military would universally shape people up. I said that view was what I took Nimrod's view to be, and I was disagreeing with it.

Seriously, sometimes I think you guys see my name come up in a thread and immediately come up with what you think my "evil Republican" view on the matter is before you even read my posts. ("Oh that bastard Corganist, I'm sure he just loves the military and sees no problems with a draft. Piece of GOP loving scum that he is.") And if I don't actually say something that conforms to that, then you just pretend I did anyway. Give me a break. I can't be wrong all the time.

Actually, I just think you talk a bunch of b.s. and then in a storm of it weasel out of dumb statments. Which is why i didn't quote any of it since it's mostly fillibuster. The phrase "I just think" means that YOU think it. Am I wrong? Let's not split hairs here.

MARK IT ZERO.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

He's over 30. I know it's crazy that a man who's 36 would hang out with teenagers and twenty somethings but he's pretty pathetic.

I don't think nim is pathetic. He can be mean though.

Anyway, billy is 39 hanging with kids and twenty somethings.....eh?

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

He's over 30. I know it's crazy that a man who's 36 would hang out with teenagers and twenty somethings but he's pretty pathetic.

Also I'm not 36.

I love that a guy that gets fired from fucking IHOP and is a 25 year old virgin is calling me pathetic.

[Elvis The Fat Years]

well, if billy is doing it most be ok.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Also I'm not 36.

I love that a guy that gets fired from fucking IHOP and is a 25 year old virgin is calling me pathetic.

Well you know what they say, it takes one to know one.

[rocksteady]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

I mainly meant the lazy shiftless assholes who demand their freedom but wouldn't lift a finger to defend it, nor feel the need to study history before 1980

the main point though is more dead/overseas guys = more pussy for the rest of us

you're somehow implying that fighting a war in iraq equates to defending freedom.

nazis and japs were a threat to freedom. iraq was not

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by rocksteady

you're somehow implying that fighting a war in iraq equates to defending freedom.

nazis and japs were a threat to freedom. iraq was not

Afghanistan would be and whether or not you liked the war to begin with, the hornets nest that's now stirred up over there has become a fight for the security of the western world

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Well you know what they say, it takes one to know one.

.. you are calling me a virgin. That makes a lot of sense.

[Trotskilicious]

I'm calling you pathetic.

Posts like your last one really highlight this, so thanks for doing my job for me.

[rocksteady]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Afghanistan would be and whether or not you liked the war to begin with, the hornets nest that's now stirred up over there has become a fight for the security of the western world

thats a really great response to my reply which was all about afghanistan

oh wait.

afghanistan is a place worth fighting in. there wouldn't be a need for a draft if that was the only place we were fighting in anyway.

[Rarely]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

The draft could be the best thing that ever happened to the laziest generation in history

lol yeah it's nice since you're an old piece of shit huh? well to be fair your fat ass wouldn't be physically fit to be drafted anyway.

[Katy Lied]

Rarely speak to me through rep

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by rocksteady

afghanistan is a place worth fighting in. there wouldn't be a need for a draft if that was the only place we were fighting in anyway.

And because we went in, screwed their government, then left without reconstructing like we promised we would, we'll be there again in a few years! Huzzah!

That's one of my many problems with the Iraq war. All of our Afghanistan forces were sent straight to Iraq, effectively screwing the Afghans we promised to help. And now we're promising not to do the same thing to Iraq!

[Trotskilicious]

ah i don't think all our forces were sent to Iraq from Afghanistan

[jczeroman]

I would never go, ever. I wouldn't run away either. I would bear jail or stigmatization. No one has any right to force another man to fight, kill other men or die himself against his will. I would stand on that principal.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by jczeroman

I would never go, ever. I wouldn't run away either. I would bear jail or stigmatization. No one has any right to force another man to fight, kill other men or die himself against his will. I would stand on that principal.

"I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong!"

[Bread Regal]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

The draft could be the best thing that ever happened to the laziest generation in history

[Trotskilicious]

digging up old turds?