Blind people can't read? Oh noes!

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 06:34 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/28/mark...ex.htm?cnn=yes

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Judge rules paper money unfair to blind
Judge says Treasury Department is violating the law by keeping all money the same size and feel.
November 29 2006: 11:23 AM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A federal judge has ruled that the U.S. Treasury Department is violating the law by failing to design and issue currency that is readily distinguishable to blind and visually impaired people.
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Judge James Robertson, in a ruling on a suit by the American Council of the Blind, ordered the Treasury to devise a method to tell bills apart.

The judge wrote that the current configuration of paper money violates the Rehabilitation Act's guarantee of "meaningful access."

"It can no longer be successfully argued that a blind person has 'meaningful access' to currency if she cannot accurately identify paper money without assistance," Robertson wrote in his ruling.

He further ruled that finding a solution to the problem would not be an "undue burden" on the government and ordered the Treasury Department to begin working on a solution within 30 days.
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The American Council for the Blind has submitted several alternatives, including embossing, holes punched in the paper or using different-sized bills for different denominations.

The Treasury Department had no comment on the ruling.

For CNN's coverage of the new federal court decision today ordering the U.S. Treasury Department to implement an alternative to paper money for blind and visually impaired people, here is FindLaw's link: Memorandum Order (American Council of the Blind v. Paulson)

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i hope they make braille freeways because driving is unfair to the blind as well

Future Boy · 12-06-2006, 06:37 PM

They should just tie everything to our thumb print, like in the movies!

DeviousJ · 12-06-2006, 06:38 PM

What?

Future Boy · 12-06-2006, 06:40 PM

Like in Back to the Future II. That was a great movie.

waltermcphilp · 12-06-2006, 06:43 PM

"welcome home jennifer"

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 06:53 PM

what an amazing thing to mock. nimrod, really. god.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

what an amazing thing to mock. nimrod, really. god.

There's such a thing as being accomodating, and there's such a thing as going too far. I hope deaf people sue Apple because they can't hear their iPods.

rocksteady · 12-06-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/28/mark...ex.htm?cnn=yes

i hope they make braille freeways because driving is unfair to the blind as well

yeah, whatever happened to personal responsibility.

DeviousJ · 12-06-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Future Boy

Like in Back to the Future II. That was a great movie.

You posted inbetween me reading the thread and replying

DeviousJ · 12-06-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

There's such a thing as being accomodating, and there's such a thing as going too far. I hope deaf people sue Apple because they can't hear their iPods.

I know you're joking, so let's all laugh together

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

There's such a thing as being accomodating, and there's such a thing as going too far. I hope deaf people sue Apple because they can't hear their iPods.

oh so i guess blind people should just guess how much money they have

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 07:44 PM

i mean really they have no use for money much like they have no use for cars and deaf people have no use for ipods

Do you have an ignorant fuckhead nob on your thigh or something that you crank up every once in a while or what?

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 07:48 PM

You know how there's close captioning on television for deaf people? That allows them to successfully watch a television program or movie. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to hear.

Blind people can get credit cards, and debit cards. This allows them to purchase things in stores. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to see.

Lucy Sky Diamonds · 12-06-2006, 07:48 PM

It's really not a big deal having braille on currency. It is an added anti-counterfitting tool, which is generally a good thing for the economy anyhow.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy Sky Diamonds

It's really not a big deal having braille on currency. It is an added anti-counterfitting tool, which is generally a good thing for the economy anyhow.

i can't wait until it costs more than $1 to print a dollar bill

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

You know how there's close captioning on television for deaf people? That allows them to successfully watch a television program or movie. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to hear.

Blind people can get credit cards, and debit cards. This allows them to purchase things in stores. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to see.

What the fuck is this? Is this your point?

This has to be the most retarded thread you've ever made.

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

i can't wait until it costs more than $1 to print a dollar bill

i can't wait until you shut the fuck up and stop posting on this sub-forum.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

What the fuck is this? Is this your point?

This has to be the most retarded thread you've ever made.

Ok, let me spell it out for you because you seem to be unable to grasp simple concepts.

A federal judge is once again legislating from the bench and over-interpreting the law to say that dollar bills are "unfair to the blind" which in turn forces incredible cost and inconvenience to every sighted person in the United States because of a slight inconvenience to a very tiny minority of the population.

Please stop claiming to be any kind of a classical "Liberal." You have shown your true colors in this thread.

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 08:44 PM

They are unfair to the blind, jackass.

I notice you have no data to back up this claim of outrageous cost. I notice also, that you seem to be unfamiliar with budget figures in which interest on the national debt currently eats up more than half of the entire expendature. Whatever this may cost, it will be but a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on paying down the debt and national security.

You're a dunderfuck who takes this shit too far.

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 08:49 PM

i also wonder how this qualifies as ruling "beyond the bench."

While I may have claimed more pure liberal leanings, I am not one of you or your ilk. I have already stated that I believe in higher taxes as well as universal health care and extending national education. Just because I believe that opening up free markets would be a cash cow, doesn't make me a chump.

Mariner · 12-06-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

i can't wait until it costs more than $1 to print a dollar bill

does it really matter with a f iat currency?

sppunk · 12-06-2006, 09:14 PM

I really feel like I should post here, for a myriad of reasons.

Lucy Sky Diamonds · 12-06-2006, 09:37 PM

Look at all that pretty brail on my $5, $10 and $20.

Anyhow, apparently there are machines that you can get that you can insert your bill into it and it tells you the denomination. The blind kid in my elementary school had one of those.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

They are unfair to the blind, jackass.

I notice you have no data to back up this claim of outrageous cost. I notice also, that you seem to be unfamiliar with budget figures in which interest on the national debt currently eats up more than half of the entire expendature. Whatever this may cost, it will be but a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on paying down the debt and national security.

You're a dunderfuck who takes this shit too far.

Hi, the cost to the government isn't the big deal, it's going to be the eventual cost to businesses and consumers. Different sized bills? Great, let's change every cash register in the US. And so on. And so forth.

This is like a handicapped person complaining that now that they have a ramp to get into the building it's not good enough and they want an elevator. Blind people are just as capable of carrying out a transaction without paper bills.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy Sky Diamonds

Look at all that pretty brail on my $5, $10 and $20.

Anyhow, apparently there are machines that you can get that you can insert your bill into it and it tells you the denomination. The blind kid in my elementary school had one of those.

Shhh, that's not a tool of the government, don't let it get out that corporations already have a solution.

gurr8 · 12-06-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner

does it really matter with a fiat currency?

.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

They are unfair to the blind, jackass.

I notice you have no data to back up this claim of outrageous cost. I notice also, that you seem to be unfamiliar with budget figures in which interest on the national debt currently eats up more than half of the entire expendature. Whatever this may cost, it will be but a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on paying down the debt and national security.

You're a dunderfuck who takes this shit too far.

The national debt? Non sequitor, but I'll go with you.

The national debt *is* a much bigger problem than blind people and their dollars. You're right. Maybe we should be concentrating our resources there instead of on this.

peabody · 12-06-2006, 09:58 PM

Whenever blind people come into my store and purchase something I have to count their money for them. That must take a lot of trust on their part to let me manhandle their wallets and get the correct amount.

I'm so glad I have my senses.

Nimrod's Son · 12-06-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner

does it really matter with a f iat currency?

Technically the US doesn't have a true fiat currency, and it would still matter because of relative inflation. If it costs $1 to produce a $1 bill, the money itself is devalued, thus leading to inflation, and so on.

Trotskilicious · 12-06-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Shhh, that's not a tool of the government, don't let it get out that corporations already have a solution.

God you are such a fucking asshole. Why in the fuck should they have to pay for something like that when we could easily accomidate them? IT's not like we just re-vamped our entire bills with big heads, watermarks and color. You're still talking out of your fucking ass with no concept of what the FUCK this could possibly cost and if it's even significant. I cannot believe you are arguing against something that would be so easy to do and help blind people and fucking drunk people in dark bars able to easily tell what denomination their bills are.

I'd like to see you talk like this in front of other people that don't share your brainless adherence to some kind of inapplicable idealistic theory. I'm sure they'd have a similar reaction, i.e. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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i am well aware that this is immature and i don't care.

12-06-2006, 06:37 PM	#2
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	They should just tie everything to our thumb print, like in the movies!

12-06-2006, 06:38 PM	#3
DeviousJ CORNFROST Location: GUREITO DESU YO Posts: 24,891	What?

12-06-2006, 06:40 PM	#4
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	Like in Back to the Future II. That was a great movie.

12-06-2006, 06:43 PM	#5
waltermcphilp Socialphobic Location: I DO C-C-C-COCAINE Posts: 11,142	"welcome home jennifer"

12-06-2006, 06:53 PM	#6
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	what an amazing thing to mock. nimrod, really. god.

12-06-2006, 07:44 PM	#12
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i mean really they have no use for money much like they have no use for cars and deaf people have no use for ipods Do you have an ignorant fuckhead nob on your thigh or something that you crank up every once in a while or what?

12-06-2006, 07:48 PM	#13
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	You know how there's close captioning on television for deaf people? That allows them to successfully watch a television program or movie. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to hear. Blind people can get credit cards, and debit cards. This allows them to purchase things in stores. However, it does not offer the same experience as being able to see.

12-06-2006, 07:48 PM	#14
Lucy Sky Diamonds Braindead Location: No Canada like French Canada, it's the best Canada in ze land. Posts: 16,905	It's really not a big deal having braille on currency. It is an added anti-counterfitting tool, which is generally a good thing for the economy anyhow.

12-06-2006, 08:44 PM	#19
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	They are unfair to the blind, jackass. I notice you have no data to back up this claim of outrageous cost. I notice also, that you seem to be unfamiliar with budget figures in which interest on the national debt currently eats up more than half of the entire expendature. Whatever this may cost, it will be but a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on paying down the debt and national security. You're a dunderfuck who takes this shit too far.

12-06-2006, 08:49 PM	#20
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i also wonder how this qualifies as ruling "beyond the bench." While I may have claimed more pure liberal leanings, I am not one of you or your ilk. I have already stated that I believe in higher taxes as well as universal health care and extending national education. Just because I believe that opening up free markets would be a cash cow, doesn't make me a chump.

12-06-2006, 09:14 PM	#22
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	I really feel like I should post here, for a myriad of reasons.

12-06-2006, 09:37 PM	#23
Lucy Sky Diamonds Braindead Location: No Canada like French Canada, it's the best Canada in ze land. Posts: 16,905	Look at all that pretty brail on my $5, $10 and $20. Anyhow, apparently there are machines that you can get that you can insert your bill into it and it tells you the denomination. The blind kid in my elementary school had one of those.

12-06-2006, 09:58 PM	#28
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	Whenever blind people come into my store and purchase something I have to count their money for them. That must take a lot of trust on their part to let me manhandle their wallets and get the correct amount. I'm so glad I have my senses.