Since America loves the death penalty

Trotskilicious · 11-03-2006, 08:28 AM

How come child molestors aren't ever executed? I mean really, why do people bother releasing them back out onto the streets to be ridiculed and scrutinized and in grasping distance of little boys' backsides? What's the point? Here in Texas we don't have any problems killing retards, so being psychologically unfit to be executed isn't a reason, is it?

Kahlo · 11-03-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

How come child molestors aren't ever executed? I mean really, why do people bother releasing them back out onto the streets to be ridiculed and scrutinized and in grasping distance of little boys' backsides? What's the point? Here in Texas we don't have any problems killing retards, so being psychologically unfit to be executed isn't a reason, is it?

oo controversial. I really think these people should be killed, but thats because I hate them.

Trotskilicious · 11-03-2006, 08:34 AM

This isn't controversial at all I don't think. Which is all the more reason why I don't understand why these fuckers aren't gassed to death.

I'm against the death penalty in most cases, too.

The Pashing Smumpkin · 11-03-2006, 08:48 AM

Im curious to know if there's been a proper study done into how many of them repeat offend? And with these repeat offenders, what sort of punishment do they get the second time around...?

Trotskilicious · 11-03-2006, 08:49 AM

I'm not a fan of facts but I think most of them repeat offend.

GlasgowKiss · 11-03-2006, 08:50 AM

Id consider having sexual desires for children as being dealt a tough hand in life. I wouldnt even contemplate the death penalty for them, but thats not saying much considering my stance on the death penalty.

pale blue eyes · 11-03-2006, 08:50 AM

It is pretty ridiculous, especially when they have one of the highest rates of recidivism among offenders. People want to see that sort of thing as something therapy can magically take care of because it is so disturbing but I honestly don't think that's any more feasible than trying to rehabilitate serial murderers. And in a lot of cases I'd say the former is more serious a crime because those victims are still alive. I'm not saying murder victims are lucky but I've talked to victims of molestation and sexual assault and, without trying to sound both trite and overy dramatic, in a lot of cases their lives are essentially gone except they're still walking around. I'm not a fan of the death penalty either but repeat offenders like that deserve it just as much as murderers.

Kahlo · 11-03-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pashing Smumpkin

Im curious to know if there's been a proper study done into how many of them repeat offend? And with these repeat offenders, what sort of punishment do they get the second time around...?

like dogs that bite kids they need to be destroyed, any threat to children should be as such. Howeve ronly with proof I guess.

Kahlo · 11-03-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss

Id consider having sexual desires for children as being dealt a tough hand in life. I wouldnt even consider the death penalty for them, but thats not saying much considering my stance on the death penalty.

oh yes and damn the Olsen twins.

Trotskilicious · 11-03-2006, 08:54 AM

Fuck the Olsen Twins, I have pants problems whenever I see Michelle Wie.

But those are Lolitas, not 8 year olds. Dude.

Starla · 11-03-2006, 09:32 AM

They deserve to be lined up in front of a firing squad. No reason to house them in prisons taking up tax payer's and state monies....or allowed back into society.

TuralyonW3 · 11-03-2006, 11:56 AM

Mabye if they brutally raped a bunch of kids against their will. If they were just seducers though, nah, give the fellas another chance.

ChristHimself! · 11-03-2006, 12:01 PM

if the kid follows them into the woods with promises of gold and shiny wrapped sweets, or puppies, they deserve what they get

that's what mummy told me

*sob*

BlueStar · 11-03-2006, 12:27 PM

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It is pretty ridiculous, especially when they have one of the highest rates of recidivism among offenders. People want to see that sort of thing as something therapy can magically take care of because it is so disturbing but I honestly don't think that's any more feasible than trying to rehabilitate serial murderers.

But there is virtually no attempt made at rehabilitating sex offenders or any other offenders. Our justice system is built on the notion of punishment, not rehabilitation. And while, yes, sex offenders, particularly child molestors, are the criminals most likely to recidivate, we cannot punish someone for something they might possible do in the future. It is fundamentaly wrong and unjust. I'm opposed to the death penalty in all cases. And, when it comes to sex offenders, I am also opposed to having a sex offender registry. And I'm opposed to mandatory minimums for sex offenders and all other offenders.

CYCLE_23 · 11-03-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

oo controversial. I really think these people should be killed, but thats because I hate them.

Agreed

Kahlo · 11-03-2006, 12:56 PM

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Fuck the Olsen Twins, I have pants problems whenever I see Michelle Wie.

But those are Lolitas, not 8 year olds. Dude.

she is legal, but incredibly unattractive (from her wiki anyway)

shame on you T

GlasgowKiss · 11-03-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

like dogs that bite kids they need to be destroyed, any threat to children should be as such. Howeve ronly with proof I guess.

Proof you say? Tell us more of this concept of... proof?

pale blue eyes · 11-03-2006, 01:17 PM

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But there is virtually no attempt made at rehabilitating sex offenders or any other offenders. Our justice system is built on the notion of punishment, not rehabilitation. And while, yes, sex offenders, particularly child molestors, are the criminals most likely to recidivate, we cannot punish someone for something they might possible do in the future. It is fundamentaly wrong and unjust. I'm opposed to the death penalty in all cases. And, when it comes to sex offenders, I am also opposed to having a sex offender registry. And I'm opposed to mandatory minimums for sex offenders and all other offenders.

I've read about several prison systems that have therapy sessions available for inmates and a lot of released sex offenders have to attend mandatory meetings after their release in order to curb them from going back to their old habits. Did you read the rest of my post? I'm not saying that we should put to death every person accused of a sex crime but there are repeat offenders that are just as dangerous, if not more so, than some of the individuals we sentence to death for murdering people.

Grumble · 11-03-2006, 01:33 PM

i think it's a really stupid argument to say that people possibly less deserving of death are given the death penalty, so why not child molestors. it's a barbaric 'solution' whoever it's applied to.

Voice Implodes · 11-03-2006, 01:33 PM

i am not pro death penatly, but if anybody does deserve to be given the needle it is pedophiles and rapists. and people who torture animals should be tortured themsleves.

aurel · 11-03-2006, 01:51 PM

http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/images/castration.jpg

The Jesus · 11-03-2006, 01:51 PM

It might be because a lot of the people involved in making and enforcing the laws of the land, enjoy spending time in the company of young boys and girls.

Trotskilicious · 11-04-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStar

we cannot punish someone for something they might possible do in the future. It is fundamentaly wrong and unjust.

That's how the whole justice system works.

blackfaerie · 11-04-2006, 06:37 PM

castration. mhm.

spring · 11-04-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

That's how the whole justice system works.

exactly.

and it's not fundamentally wrong or unjust at all to prevent something from happening when there's such a high chance of it taking place. if not death penalty i don't understand why not at least life in prison for child molesters.

ravenguy2000 · 11-04-2006, 06:50 PM

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And, when it comes to sex offenders, I am also opposed to having a sex offender registry.

Yeah. Families with children could be living right next door to a violent criminal and have no idea whatsoever, but someone commits a sex-related crime and it's suddenly the public's right to know exactly who they are and where the live? It's always bothered me and it seems like there would be a better way. I've always wondered how other countries handle it.

ravenguy2000 · 11-04-2006, 06:55 PM

http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/

Thanks to this site, I can see every sex offender in my zip code, where they live, what they look like, and even the crime they commited.

lohengrin · 11-04-2006, 07:04 PM

they need to be put to death. the damage even one instance of abuse causes is irreversible and horrible. there just isnt anything you can do to an adult that will compare to abusing them as a child. is it rough that these people have an appetite to commit these acts? this is an offensive argument. do people actually argue perverted lust as an extenuating circumstance in the destroying of someone's whole life when theyre just a little child? that the driving force behind this crime is innate is in the first not something i believe wholly and in the second a stronger argument for extermination than the idea of it being a crime committed on a lark. you can use "created with evil" arguments to disprove the existance of a loving god, but you can't couple it with our social contract to any sane conclusion other than their being locked up, castrated or destroyed

in our intro philosophy class we were told that like more than 25% of women were abused when young. this number is impossible to really determine because so many live in denial and sadly this may even be the least harmful way to deal with old abuse in some cases. there can not be a deterrent too strong for this type of crime. as far as the sex offender registry goes, you change someone's life forever when you do something like that to a child. if the justice system can't deal cold justice, these people ought to meet their end like jeffrey dahmer, in or out of prison. as it is there are about 15 people nationwide "harassing t**** by alerting households about the presence of sex offencers, and they probably only do it to get ont he news. for the most part they live as they please and most of the time commit more crimes.

11-03-2006, 08:28 AM	#1
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Since America loves the death penalty How come child molestors aren't ever executed? I mean really, why do people bother releasing them back out onto the streets to be ridiculed and scrutinized and in grasping distance of little boys' backsides? What's the point? Here in Texas we don't have any problems killing retards, so being psychologically unfit to be executed isn't a reason, is it?

11-03-2006, 08:34 AM	#3
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	This isn't controversial at all I don't think. Which is all the more reason why I don't understand why these fuckers aren't gassed to death. I'm against the death penalty in most cases, too.

11-03-2006, 08:48 AM	#4
The Pashing Smumpkin Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,128	Im curious to know if there's been a proper study done into how many of them repeat offend? And with these repeat offenders, what sort of punishment do they get the second time around...?

11-03-2006, 08:49 AM	#5
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	I'm not a fan of facts but I think most of them repeat offend.

11-03-2006, 08:50 AM	#6
GlasgowKiss Quaid Hates You Location: Hollywood Posts: 14,160	Id consider having sexual desires for children as being dealt a tough hand in life. I wouldnt even contemplate the death penalty for them, but thats not saying much considering my stance on the death penalty.

11-03-2006, 08:50 AM	#7
pale blue eyes NOPE. Location: :/ Posts: 15,110	It is pretty ridiculous, especially when they have one of the highest rates of recidivism among offenders. People want to see that sort of thing as something therapy can magically take care of because it is so disturbing but I honestly don't think that's any more feasible than trying to rehabilitate serial murderers. And in a lot of cases I'd say the former is more serious a crime because those victims are still alive. I'm not saying murder victims are lucky but I've talked to victims of molestation and sexual assault and, without trying to sound both trite and overy dramatic, in a lot of cases their lives are essentially gone except they're still walking around. I'm not a fan of the death penalty either but repeat offenders like that deserve it just as much as murderers.

11-03-2006, 08:54 AM	#10
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Fuck the Olsen Twins, I have pants problems whenever I see Michelle Wie. But those are Lolitas, not 8 year olds. Dude.

11-03-2006, 09:32 AM	#11
Starla ***** Posts: 15,778	They deserve to be lined up in front of a firing squad. No reason to house them in prisons taking up tax payer's and state monies....or allowed back into society.

11-03-2006, 11:56 AM	#12
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	Mabye if they brutally raped a bunch of kids against their will. If they were just seducers though, nah, give the fellas another chance.

11-03-2006, 12:01 PM	#13
ChristHimself! mental problems angel Location: i want u 2 caress me like a tropical priest Posts: 20,594	if the kid follows them into the woods with promises of gold and shiny wrapped sweets, or puppies, they deserve what they get that's what mummy told me sob

11-03-2006, 01:33 PM	#19
Grumble Apocalyptic Poster Location: non-local software. Posts: 2,746	i think it's a really stupid argument to say that people possibly less deserving of death are given the death penalty, so why not child molestors. it's a barbaric 'solution' whoever it's applied to.

11-03-2006, 01:33 PM	#20
Voice Implodes Minion of Satan Location: upstairs Posts: 6,823	i am not pro death penatly, but if anybody does deserve to be given the needle it is pedophiles and rapists. and people who torture animals should be tortured themsleves.

11-03-2006, 01:51 PM	#21
aurel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Maximum Homosapien crammed down your HaHa hole. Posts: 2,339	http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/images/castration.jpg

11-03-2006, 01:51 PM	#22
The Jesus Minion of Satan Location: Kiltworld Posts: 5,945	It might be because a lot of the people involved in making and enforcing the laws of the land, enjoy spending time in the company of young boys and girls.

11-04-2006, 06:37 PM	#24
blackfaerie cherrybombs, Red Bulls, and vodka. No really, I'm not a lush. Location: the liquor store, restocking. Posts: 8,883	castration. mhm.

11-04-2006, 06:55 PM	#27
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 29,008	http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/ Thanks to this site, I can see every sex offender in my zip code, where they live, what they look like, and even the crime they commited.

11-04-2006, 07:04 PM	#28
lohengrin Pledge Posts: 200	they need to be put to death. the damage even one instance of abuse causes is irreversible and horrible. there just isnt anything you can do to an adult that will compare to abusing them as a child. is it rough that these people have an appetite to commit these acts? this is an offensive argument. do people actually argue perverted lust as an extenuating circumstance in the destroying of someone's whole life when theyre just a little child? that the driving force behind this crime is innate is in the first not something i believe wholly and in the second a stronger argument for extermination than the idea of it being a crime committed on a lark. you can use "created with evil" arguments to disprove the existance of a loving god, but you can't couple it with our social contract to any sane conclusion other than their being locked up, castrated or destroyed in our intro philosophy class we were told that like more than 25% of women were abused when young. this number is impossible to really determine because so many live in denial and sadly this may even be the least harmful way to deal with old abuse in some cases. there can not be a deterrent too strong for this type of crime. as far as the sex offender registry goes, you change someone's life forever when you do something like that to a child. if the justice system can't deal cold justice, these people ought to meet their end like jeffrey dahmer, in or out of prison. as it is there are about 15 people nationwide "harassing t**** by alerting households about the presence of sex offencers, and they probably only do it to get ont he news. for the most part they live as they please and most of the time commit more crimes.