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Old 09-07-2006, 08:27 PM   #151
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The only way one could prove the biological idea of race is by admitting that genetics/dna would have to be directly involved with the proof.
Therefore we can agree that the biological idea of race can only be proved/disproved in the biological science of genes.

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:28 PM   #152
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The only way one could prove the biological idea of race is by admitting that genetics/dna would have to be directly involved with the proof.
so you keep saying. prove it

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:31 PM   #153
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but you haven't shown that that's the only way. the burden of proof is on your shoulders here — if you want to say "genetics is the only possible biological basis for race" then it's up to you to demonstrate that, not for someone else to prove the opposite
One cannot come up with any other proof but genetical proof.

ie.: physical appearance, skin color, hair color... --all would be biologically proved/disproved by genetics.

or any sociological idea...which obviously isn't relevant to the argument at hand.

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:32 PM   #154
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``The concept of race is a social and cultural construction. . . . Race simply cannot be tested or proven scientifically,'' according to a policy statement by the American Anthropological Association. ``It is clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. The concept of `race' has no validity . . . in the human species.''

Although few people would mistake a group of Arapahos for Finns, or Malays for Tutsis, anthropologists can find no clear racial boundaries to show where one ``racial'' group stops and another begins.
-----thank you

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:33 PM   #155
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ella, can you please tell me the name of your university?

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:33 PM   #156
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ding ding del

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:34 PM   #157
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ella, can you please tell me the name of your university?
Muskingum College

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:41 PM   #158
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genetical

this word sounds funny

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:45 PM   #159
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that's already been discussed...
and yes, regardless of how it sounds...lol it is a word.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...etical&x=0&y=0

 
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:19 PM   #160
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can we start using the word "genetic"


well actually I'm not really even reading this thread but that word really bothers me

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:56 AM   #161
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You seem to forget i took a semester on cultural minorities....
no, i think most people here are quite aware. you, on the other hand, seem quite unaware of the absolute uselessness of a sizeable majority of modern "liberal arts" college/university courses. i would tell you to step down off of your high horse but then you'd find yourself plummeting from an ivory tower you don't seem to know exists. which i suppose in the end is fine, since most of your liberal arts professors dabble in the mystic cesspool of subjective philosophy, which means that you aren't really falling and you won't really splat into a pile of dna-based-goo when you slam into the ivory tower's nicely appointed entry plaza. because really, what are "splat", "pile", "dna-based goo" and "nicely appointed entry plaza" but human constructs which are only a part of reality because your brain has somehow magically thought them into existence? so as the wind whistles in your ear and the ground gets dangerously close, just shut your eyes and chant "i'm not really here, this isn't really happening" and see where that gets you. i'll call the janitor.

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:20 AM   #162
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Personally, I would have thought that anyone who took a semester on cultural minorities would have been aware of the abilities of said minorities when threatened or put in general situations of danger.

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:29 PM   #163
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no, i think most people here are quite aware. you, on the other hand, seem quite unaware of the absolute uselessness of a sizeable majority of modern "liberal arts" college/university courses. i would tell you to step down off of your high horse but then you'd find yourself plummeting from an ivory tower you don't seem to know exists. which i suppose in the end is fine, since most of your liberal arts professors dabble in the mystic cesspool of subjective philosophy, which means that you aren't really falling and you won't really splat into a pile of dna-based-goo when you slam into the ivory tower's nicely appointed entry plaza. because really, what are "splat", "pile", "dna-based goo" and "nicely appointed entry plaza" but human constructs which are only a part of reality because your brain has somehow magically thought them into existence? so as the wind whistles in your ear and the ground gets dangerously close, just shut your eyes and chant "i'm not really here, this isn't really happening" and see where that gets you. i'll call the janitor.
If you want to address the argument at hand... please, do so. -otherwise your assumptions are unwarranted.

The issue is whether or not race has a biological basis... or a solely sociological basis. If you feel like inputting on this issue... be my guest.

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:13 PM   #164
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CAN WE GET BACK TO ASKING QUESTIONS

jan, if there was a big deadly insect on your face, what would you do

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:36 PM   #165
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CAN WE GET BACK TO ASKING QUESTIONS

jan, if there was a big deadly insect on your face, what would you do
the question period is over as I hit 10,000. Now it's ella time with her exlplaining us how's it all with genetics with her social minorities' class background....


anyways, let's consider this to be *** answer. I think I'd try to blow it away - I wouldn't smack it, for sure.

 
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:23 PM   #166
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Keep going ella. Dont give up.

 
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:51 AM   #167
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hahaha well they've veered off the argument.... so i guess it's over. =)

 
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:54 AM   #168
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I'm not going to read this thread and I will assume that is sucks
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