Heath Ledger on his "darker, more sinister" Joker for The Dark Knight

ChristHimself! · 04:25 AM

Just a couple of wee quotes really, but good to hear, from two different articles...

Come January, he starts playing the Joker, in Christopher Nolan's next Batman film The Dark Knight. "It's definitely going to stump people. I think it'll be more along the lines of how the Joker was meant to be in the comics, darker and more sinister."

Q: How about playing the Joker in The Dark Knight? I have to admit, I would never have thought of you for the role.

A: I wouldn't have thought of me, either. But it's obviously not going to be what Jack Nicholson did. It's going to be more nuanced and dark and more along the lines of a Clockwork Orange kind of feel. Which is, I think, what the comic book was after: less about his laugh and more about his eyes.

Izzle · 09-08-2006, 04:37 AM

it wont work. it just cant. can it?

Shparticus · 09-08-2006, 06:38 AM

Wow. That's a pretty hefty nutpunch to Jack, yeah? "Oh, it won't be like Jack Nicholson's version. It'll be nuanced." It's like saying, "Oh, it won't really be like Jack's version. I'm going to actually act, y'see . . ."

ChristHimself! · 09-08-2006, 06:38 AM

are you saying jack's joker was subtle?

Shparticus · 09-08-2006, 06:44 AM

No, I'm saying it was Jack Nicholson, Acting Legend. He could smear his shit all over a hospital wall and, provided he did it on-camera, James Lipton would still use a clip of it on Inside the Actor's Studio. Then he'd turn it over to the students for questions and some greasy-haired toad in a beret would go, "First, Mr. Nicholson, I just want to say that the way you handle your excrement is a great inspiration to us all."

ChristHimself! · 09-08-2006, 06:47 AM

I'm not saying that Jack isn't a genius, but it is most certainly possible for someone to interpret the joker in a more nuanced and dark way than he did.

Shparticus · 09-08-2006, 06:53 AM

So could Yahoo Serious. The first Batman film was like a fat little puppy with black eyeliner. Like, oo, you're a dark, mysterious, brooding little guy, aren't you? Yes you are! Yes you are! It was too cartoonish and cuddly for the dark look to have any effect.

ChristHimself! · 09-08-2006, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristHimself!

it is most certainly possible for someone to interpret the joker in a more nuanced and dark way than he did.

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Originally Posted by Shparticus

So could Yahoo Serious.

Does that make sense?

You've pretty much lost me, I'm not sure where you're going. It's like you said Jack's version was nuanced and Ledger had a cheek saying that, then that it wasn't really but it doesn't matter cause it was Jack who is a legend, and now that there was barely any nuance and darkness.

barden · 09-08-2006, 07:23 AM

I think it’s good news.

I dont know why i feel compelled to share my pointless opinions.

did it matter to anyone that i care?
no?
sob.

ChristHimself! · 09-08-2006, 07:27 AM

i care baden, i touch myself under the desk whenever you post

barden · 09-08-2006, 07:28 AM

thats pretty hot.

barden · 09-08-2006, 07:29 AM

I love the novelty of a new potential relationship.
I think about her all day.
Everything seems so much better in general, I laugh easier and louder, I make more stupid jokes….
It’s awesome, truly.

barden · 09-08-2006, 07:30 AM

I'M BRININGINGNGINGINGING SEXY BAK!

barden · 09-08-2006, 07:30 AM

ChristHimself! · 09-08-2006, 07:32 AM

except when you quadruple post, that makes me un-touch myself

Mo · 09-08-2006, 01:49 PM

I'm actually looking forward to this, since I think that Ledger will make a great Joker.

Ugly · 09-08-2006, 03:26 PM

The laugh is key. When he lets loose, it should scar your soul. Also, I hope he read The Killing Joke about 6 times in a row every day for a month as prep. And listened to Mark Hammill's vocal performance -- that, my friends, is the definitive Joker.

Irridescent Fairysex · 09-08-2006, 04:07 PM

Batman Begins was mediocre at best, I don't get why so many people think it's great.

TuralyonW3 · 09-08-2006, 04:08 PM

read The Killing Joke people.

Shparticus · 09-08-2006, 06:00 PM

I did. Gave me fucking nightmares.

Oh, and Christ? My point wasn't that Nicholson's version was good. My point was that it's Nicholson we're talking about. He's just short of a cinema legend, and for a relatively new actor like Ledger to say something like that is . . . well, surprisingly indelicate. It's like Ashton Kutcher playing Rick in a remake of Casablanca and telling the press, "Yeah, it's gonna be totally different from Bogart's version. I'm gonna try to use subtext and play it more sort of, you know, straight."

Shapan · 09-08-2006, 06:28 PM

batman begins is good, i think its the shitty films with clooney and kilmer that make it look better.

i heard that guy pearce might be two face in the next one, anyone know if thats true?

Shapan · 09-08-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristHimself!

except when you quadruple post, that makes me un-touch myself

by the way, ive recently been listening to some 80s music like inxs, oingo boingo, duran duran, joy division, etc and ive been enjoying it. i thought you'd like to know that.

ravenguy2000 · 09-08-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shparticus

My point was that it's Nicholson we're talking about. He's just short of a cinema legend,

what

09-08-2006, 04:19 AM	#1
ChristHimself! mental problems angel Location: i want u 2 caress me like a tropical priest Posts: 20,594	Heath Ledger on his "darker, more sinister" Joker for The Dark Knight Just a couple of wee quotes really, but good to hear, from two different articles... Come January, he starts playing the Joker, in Christopher Nolan's next Batman film The Dark Knight. "It's definitely going to stump people. I think it'll be more along the lines of how the Joker was meant to be in the comics, darker and more sinister." Q: How about playing the Joker in The Dark Knight? I have to admit, I would never have thought of you for the role. A: I wouldn't have thought of me, either. But it's obviously not going to be what Jack Nicholson did. It's going to be more nuanced and dark and more along the lines of a Clockwork Orange kind of feel. Which is, I think, what the comic book was after: less about his laugh and more about his eyes. Last edited by ChristHimself! : 09-08-2006 at 04:25 AM.

09-08-2006, 07:30 AM	#14
barden Braindead Location: The Ghetto Posts: 19,611	YA

09-08-2006, 03:26 PM	#17
Ugly Immortal Location: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed Posts: 21,249	The laugh is key. When he lets loose, it should scar your soul. Also, I hope he read The Killing Joke about 6 times in a row every day for a month as prep. And listened to Mark Hammill's vocal performance -- that, my friends, is the definitive Joker. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-08-2006, 04:37 AM	#2
Izzle Banned Posts: 6,212	it wont work. it just cant. can it?

09-08-2006, 06:38 AM	#3
Shparticus Apocalyptic Poster Location: Lemon curry? Posts: 1,498	Wow. That's a pretty hefty nutpunch to Jack, yeah? "Oh, it won't be like Jack Nicholson's version. It'll be nuanced." It's like saying, "Oh, it won't really be like Jack's version. I'm going to actually act, y'see . . ."

09-08-2006, 06:44 AM	#5
Shparticus Apocalyptic Poster Location: Lemon curry? Posts: 1,498	No, I'm saying it was Jack Nicholson, Acting Legend. He could smear his shit all over a hospital wall and, provided he did it on-camera, James Lipton would still use a clip of it on Inside the Actor's Studio. Then he'd turn it over to the students for questions and some greasy-haired toad in a beret would go, "First, Mr. Nicholson, I just want to say that the way you handle your excrement is a great inspiration to us all."

09-08-2006, 06:47 AM	#6
ChristHimself! mental problems angel Location: i want u 2 caress me like a tropical priest Posts: 20,594	I'm not saying that Jack isn't a genius, but it is most certainly possible for someone to interpret the joker in a more nuanced and dark way than he did.

09-08-2006, 06:53 AM	#7
Shparticus Apocalyptic Poster Location: Lemon curry? Posts: 1,498	So could Yahoo Serious. The first Batman film was like a fat little puppy with black eyeliner. Like, oo, you're a dark, mysterious, brooding little guy, aren't you? Yes you are! Yes you are! It was too cartoonish and cuddly for the dark look to have any effect.

09-08-2006, 07:23 AM	#9
barden Braindead Location: The Ghetto Posts: 19,611	I think it’s good news. I dont know why i feel compelled to share my pointless opinions. did it matter to anyone that i care? no? sob.

09-08-2006, 07:27 AM	#10
ChristHimself! mental problems angel Location: i want u 2 caress me like a tropical priest Posts: 20,594	i care baden, i touch myself under the desk whenever you post

09-08-2006, 07:28 AM	#11
barden Braindead Location: The Ghetto Posts: 19,611	thats pretty hot.

09-08-2006, 07:29 AM	#12
barden Braindead Location: The Ghetto Posts: 19,611	I love the novelty of a new potential relationship. I think about her all day. Everything seems so much better in general, I laugh easier and louder, I make more stupid jokes…. It’s awesome, truly.

09-08-2006, 07:32 AM	#15
ChristHimself! mental problems angel Location: i want u 2 caress me like a tropical priest Posts: 20,594	except when you quadruple post, that makes me un-touch myself

09-08-2006, 01:49 PM	#16
Mo Immortal Posts: 20,988	I'm actually looking forward to this, since I think that Ledger will make a great Joker.

09-08-2006, 04:07 PM	#18
Irridescent Fairysex glug glug glug Location: Island of jocks and jazz Posts: 8,931	Batman Begins was mediocre at best, I don't get why so many people think it's great.

09-08-2006, 04:08 PM	#19
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	read The Killing Joke people.

09-08-2006, 06:00 PM	#20
Shparticus Apocalyptic Poster Location: Lemon curry? Posts: 1,498	I did. Gave me fucking nightmares. Oh, and Christ? My point wasn't that Nicholson's version was good. My point was that it's Nicholson we're talking about. He's just short of a cinema legend, and for a relatively new actor like Ledger to say something like that is . . . well, surprisingly indelicate. It's like Ashton Kutcher playing Rick in a remake of Casablanca and telling the press, "Yeah, it's gonna be totally different from Bogart's version. I'm gonna try to use subtext and play it more sort of, you know, straight."

09-08-2006, 06:28 PM	#21
Shapan Socialphobic Location: intellectual hobo Posts: 11,798	batman begins is good, i think its the shitty films with clooney and kilmer that make it look better. i heard that guy pearce might be two face in the next one, anyone know if thats true?