The Red Wings Management is so lazy

GRSuperChris · 08-22-2005, 04:12 PM

I swear the league has over 150 free agents still and they have released more players then they have signed. And half of them will be playing for the Grand Rapids. The first pre-season game is in less then a month. They need to step it up. Yeah they will still win their division like always but if they play a team like Vancouver, Phoenix, or Calgary in the playoffs......I would have to say it's over. Vancouver isn't worried about the cap. Detroit is for some reason thinking that they need to stay below 25 million. Not sure why. I know they are going for younger players and don't want a lot of veterans but look at all the talent available.

http://www.nhl.com/players/freelist05.html

They still haven't signed Datsyuk and Zetterberg yet. They are still excited about getting Ozzy back. That was 2 weeks ago. They better hurry up.

Ihaman · 08-22-2005, 04:26 PM

R U TALKING ABOUT TEH MACHINA MYSTRIE!?

Netphorian Gadabout · 08-22-2005, 04:29 PM

You seem to have some facts wrong. First, the Wings are shooting for 38 million this year. They're in negotiations with Zetterberg, Kronwall, and Datsyuk, and with what those 3 are expected to make, they should already be close to $38 mil. They simply cannot go out and sign a big free agent, although there is some talk of Bonrda signing. Admitedly, they're a bit handicapped under the new cap, but they're doing much, much better then Colorado or Toronto, and one prediction out of Toronto has the wings second in the west. I think the team is looking pretty good, and some of their acquisitions -while not huge names- are good pickups, like Delmore, who is a very offensively productive defenseman. I think we just need to resign Zetterberg, Kronwall, Datsyuk, and maybe Bootland and we'll be pretty OK. I'd like another winger (we're too stacked at center, imo), but with the cap...

Voice Implodes · 08-22-2005, 06:14 PM

i was pissed at canucks management for the same reason. but then they sresigned naslund the sedins and morrison, and signed anson carter and richard park. they need more d and i am still unsure of clutier in the payoffs though.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 11:08 AM

What do you expect with a salary cap? The key for the wings is holding on to Zetterberg and Datsuyk.

GRSuperChris · 08-23-2005, 02:19 PM

Well they need to sign them before they sign with a shitty team like the hurricanes or the panthers. I don't see why it takes them so long to do an easy thing like get a contract done. They have to be the only city inthe world where all four of their major teams waste time and let talent blow away trying to sign one or two players.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 02:22 PM

I don't think the Red Wings have been guilty of that in the past few years. They were stacked for the season that never happened.

Yzerman is back. Datsuyk will be back. Shanny's still there. I mean come on man, are you mad Brett Hull hit the road or what?

Netphorian Gadabout · 08-23-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by GRSuperChris
I don't see why it takes them so long to do an easy thing like get a contract done.

Well the fact the Russian premier legaues are offering Datsuyk $3mil per means the Wings probably have to go at least 3.5mil on him and another 2.5 on Zetterberg (Zetterberg thinks he's worth 3 even). That's alot of $$ to tie up, so obviously there's a bit of a hold going on. As long as they're there by 10/1, I'm fine with it though.

Kronwall needs to be in camp though. They should hurry up with him (Bootland too if they're resigning him).

Fathoms (unadored) · 08-23-2005, 04:29 PM

Sens trade Hossa and De Vries to Atlanta for Dany Heatly!

Didn't see this one coming. May be a rare deal that works for both teams.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 04:38 PM

Dany Heatley hasn't played for two years.

Netphorian Gadabout · 08-23-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Fathoms (unadored)
Sens trade Hossa and De Vries to Atlanta for Dany Heatly!

Didn't see this one coming. May be a rare deal that works for both teams.

Horrid move for Ottawa. Horrid. I could see considering it just straight up (Ottawa would still be the loser), but to throw in De Vries? AWful.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 04:42 PM

Yeah I totally agree. Hossa is my boy.

Nimrod's Son · 08-23-2005, 04:42 PM

10 replies and not one tampon joke. Tsk, Netphoria.

Fathoms (unadored) · 08-23-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Trotskilicious
Dany Heatley hasn't played for two years.

He played at the World Cup last year and played a handful of games in Russia and Switzerland during the lockout

Fathoms (unadored) · 08-23-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Pumpkins23836
Horrid move for Ottawa. Horrid. I could see considering it just straight up (Ottawa would still be the loser), but to throw in De Vries? AWful.

You have to remember they have the cap to worry about. this frees up some cash which may become useful somewhere down the line.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 04:44 PM

I stand corrected.

Hossa >> Heatley.

Netphorian Gadabout · 08-23-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Fathoms (unadored)

You have to remember they have the cap to worry about. this frees up some cash which may become useful somewhere down the line.

This is probably the one player Ottawa has though that I WOULD NOT lose. The Red Wings are cash strapped too, but I don't see them trading away Lindstrom.

Trotskilicious · 08-23-2005, 04:48 PM

I think the Sennies are banking on Havlat and Spezza.

neopryn · 08-23-2005, 05:46 PM

that's a dumbass move for the senators.

go penguins.

Injektilo · 12:07 AM

Hossa's probably the better player, but
Heatly is cheaper, and cheaper is very important to Ottawa right now.

DeVries was also a salary dump on their part.

souvenir · 08-24-2005, 01:48 AM

I think it was a great deal for both teams. The Sens needed to get rid of De Vries (who is overrated IMO kind of like Rivet in Montreal) and his salary and they get Heatley who I believe will go back to his 2002-2003 shape.

Fathoms (unadored) · 08-24-2005, 01:59 AM

Being out west I don't get to see either players much. All I know about Hossa is he's been near the top of the scoring race over the past three or so seasons and the thing I remember about Heatly is the way he dominated the 04 World Hockey Championship. If Heatly can play to his potential I think it'll work out for the Sens. But who knows, maybe Hossa is the player you'd rather have for a cup run right this minute.

phaedrus · 08-24-2005, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Voice Implodes
i was pissed at canucks management for the same reason. but then they sresigned naslund the sedins and morrison, and signed anson carter and richard park. they need more d and i am still unsure of clutier in the payoffs though.

woah the canucks signed anson carter? sweet, i used to love watching him play for edmonton. he's sucked huge lately though, let's hope he steps it up again.

phaedrus · 08-24-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Trotskilicious
I stand corrected.

Hossa >> Heatley.

it's admittedly a gamble, but you have to remember ottawa STILL hasn't made it to the cup final yet, so they've got to take a gamble. i'd say it's a good move. de vries is over-rated, especially when you look at how many other good defencemen that ottawa has.

Injektilo · 08-24-2005, 07:32 PM

Hossa is probably better than Heately, but this trade was essentially Hossa for Heatley AND cap space. If the newfound cap space allows Ottawa to keep Redden and Chara, they'll have to see it as worth it.

The cap really is bad for the Sens though, they have what is possibly the best team in the league and this has forced them to drop their best player for a guy who is pretty damn good in his own right, but still not a Hossa.

Really, it was probably the best they could do, and they really got lucky here that they didn't have to trade Hossa for someone with half the skill of a Heatley. They got pretty lucky in that Heatley was being sold around the leauge.

souvenir · 08-25-2005, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by Injektilo

The cap really is bad for the Sens though, they have what is possibly the best team in the league

Except for that question mark the size of Czech Republic in the nets.

08-22-2005, 04:12 PM	#1
GRSuperChris Demi-God Location: Grand Haven, MI Posts: 437	The Red Wings Management is so lazy I swear the league has over 150 free agents still and they have released more players then they have signed. And half of them will be playing for the Grand Rapids. The first pre-season game is in less then a month. They need to step it up. Yeah they will still win their division like always but if they play a team like Vancouver, Phoenix, or Calgary in the playoffs......I would have to say it's over. Vancouver isn't worried about the cap. Detroit is for some reason thinking that they need to stay below 25 million. Not sure why. I know they are going for younger players and don't want a lot of veterans but look at all the talent available. http://www.nhl.com/players/freelist05.html They still haven't signed Datsyuk and Zetterberg yet. They are still excited about getting Ozzy back. That was 2 weeks ago. They better hurry up.

08-22-2005, 06:14 PM	#4
Voice Implodes Minion of Satan Location: upstairs Posts: 6,823	Re: The Red Wings Management is so lazy i was pissed at canucks management for the same reason. but then they sresigned naslund the sedins and morrison, and signed anson carter and richard park. they need more d and i am still unsure of clutier in the payoffs though. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-23-2005, 04:29 PM	#9
Fathoms (unadored) Apocalyptic Poster Location: Iceland Posts: 4,669	Blockbuster just in... Sens trade Hossa and De Vries to Atlanta for Dany Heatly! Didn't see this one coming. May be a rare deal that works for both teams.

08-23-2005, 04:42 PM	#13
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08-24-2005, 12:05 AM	#20
Injektilo twenty some years.... Location: the isle of the cheetah Posts: 5,066	Hossa's probably the better player, but Heatly is cheaper, and cheaper is very important to Ottawa right now. DeVries was also a salary dump on their part. Last edited by Injektilo : 08-24-2005 at 12:07 AM.

08-22-2005, 04:29 PM	#3
Netphorian Gadabout The Broom of the System Location: Michigan Stadium Posts: 4,653	You seem to have some facts wrong. First, the Wings are shooting for 38 million this year. They're in negotiations with Zetterberg, Kronwall, and Datsyuk, and with what those 3 are expected to make, they should already be close to $38 mil. They simply cannot go out and sign a big free agent, although there is some talk of Bonrda signing. Admitedly, they're a bit handicapped under the new cap, but they're doing much, much better then Colorado or Toronto, and one prediction out of Toronto has the wings second in the west. I think the team is looking pretty good, and some of their acquisitions -while not huge names- are good pickups, like Delmore, who is a very offensively productive defenseman. I think we just need to resign Zetterberg, Kronwall, Datsyuk, and maybe Bootland and we'll be pretty OK. I'd like another winger (we're too stacked at center, imo), but with the cap...

08-23-2005, 11:08 AM	#5
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	What do you expect with a salary cap? The key for the wings is holding on to Zetterberg and Datsuyk.

08-23-2005, 02:19 PM	#6
GRSuperChris Demi-God Location: Grand Haven, MI Posts: 437	Well they need to sign them before they sign with a shitty team like the hurricanes or the panthers. I don't see why it takes them so long to do an easy thing like get a contract done. They have to be the only city inthe world where all four of their major teams waste time and let talent blow away trying to sign one or two players.

08-23-2005, 02:22 PM	#7
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	I don't think the Red Wings have been guilty of that in the past few years. They were stacked for the season that never happened. Yzerman is back. Datsuyk will be back. Shanny's still there. I mean come on man, are you mad Brett Hull hit the road or what?

08-23-2005, 04:38 PM	#10
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Dany Heatley hasn't played for two years.

08-23-2005, 04:44 PM	#16
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	I stand corrected. Hossa >> Heatley.

08-23-2005, 04:48 PM	#18
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	I think the Sennies are banking on Havlat and Spezza.

08-23-2005, 05:46 PM	#19
neopryn let's see your penis! Location: i had a few beers, but i'm cool to drive Posts: 31,862	that's a dumbass move for the senators. go penguins.

08-24-2005, 01:48 AM	#21
souvenir Apocalyptic Poster Location: Kathmandu Posts: 3,564	I think it was a great deal for both teams. The Sens needed to get rid of De Vries (who is overrated IMO kind of like Rivet in Montreal) and his salary and they get Heatley who I believe will go back to his 2002-2003 shape.

08-24-2005, 01:59 AM	#22
Fathoms (unadored) Apocalyptic Poster Location: Iceland Posts: 4,669	Being out west I don't get to see either players much. All I know about Hossa is he's been near the top of the scoring race over the past three or so seasons and the thing I remember about Heatly is the way he dominated the 04 World Hockey Championship. If Heatly can play to his potential I think it'll work out for the Sens. But who knows, maybe Hossa is the player you'd rather have for a cup run right this minute.

08-24-2005, 07:32 PM	#25
Injektilo twenty some years.... Location: the isle of the cheetah Posts: 5,066	Hossa is probably better than Heately, but this trade was essentially Hossa for Heatley AND cap space. If the newfound cap space allows Ottawa to keep Redden and Chara, they'll have to see it as worth it. The cap really is bad for the Sens though, they have what is possibly the best team in the league and this has forced them to drop their best player for a guy who is pretty damn good in his own right, but still not a Hossa. Really, it was probably the best they could do, and they really got lucky here that they didn't have to trade Hossa for someone with half the skill of a Heatley. They got pretty lucky in that Heatley was being sold around the leauge.