Inspired by Affectation... Engagement rings!

kypper · 10-16-2002, 08:41 PM

Women speak up! Which would you prefer?

tootsie · 10-16-2002, 08:47 PM

i would have been happy with any ring as long as it meant something.....does that make sense? but ive never met a girl that didnt like a big diamond

beef curtains · 10-16-2002, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth
i have a question to add: if a girl proposed to a guy, would she have to buy him anything? i think not, which would be totally cool with me. put that cash into a down payment on a house or something.

cock ring

Samsa · 10-16-2002, 08:59 PM

i voted for the wedding band. i can't imagine wearing a huge rock too often. especially since i'm so clumsy i'd probably knock it out of its setting. but diamonds don't scratch

Affect · 10-16-2002, 10:10 PM

Anyone can afford three months salary, dumbshit.

You're looking long term here, not just towards the next three months.

But it's nice to know that you went the cheap ass route, and invested in a nice 100$ gold band. Now you can afford to pick up that new Playstation game that you've had your eye on for weeks now. Congratulations!

kypper · 10-16-2002, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Affect
Anyone can afford three months salary, dumbshit.

You're looking long term here, not just towards the next three months.

But it's nice to know that you went the cheap ass route, and invested in a nice 100$ gold band. Now you can afford to pick up that new Playstation game that you've had your eye on for weeks now. Congratulations!

Nice try, I'm paying for school and our living expenses.

The wedding band itself is worth over $500, but then, that's too cheap for you, isn't it? Don't worry... some slut out there wants a sugar daddy like you to use, abuse, and toss out. Netphoria will always be here for you to get your rocks off afterward.

jenn · 10-16-2002, 11:38 PM

i'd rather a person spend the money on the wedding itself, or the honeymoon, or things that are needed for the household than to spend a zillion dollars on a ring. yes, you'll wear it for the rest of your life, and that's why i believe simplicity is the best way. it's going to be sentimental no matter what.

Smiley33 · 10-16-2002, 11:44 PM

THIS ARGUMENT IS EXCESSIVELY HOMOSEXUAL AND SHALL CEASE NOW.

I LOVE MY RING

I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT WEARS MY RING.

I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL EVER WEAR MY RING AND THEREFORE MY OPINION OF IT OVERRULES.

p.s. John Lennon (AND PAUL) said "All you need is love." How can you be such a John Lennon fan, Aff?

Random Female · 10-16-2002, 11:46 PM

i Honestly don't want an engagement ring. it' sjust not my style, I guess. and diamonds never really appealed to me. I've always just wanted a simple platinum band, no stones. maybe have the band be twisted or with some design or somethin, but other than that nothing.

KrazeeStacee · 10-16-2002, 11:50 PM

I dunno, I'm kind of torn here.

Maybe this doesn't make sense to anyone else, but to me, I would want the guy to buy an expensive ring (not INCREDIBLY expensive) because its like, its going to take a while to save that money, that not only means that you've both had a while to think about if its really the right decision, but it also shows how devoted the guy is to making you happy. Its hard to explain, does that make sense?

Its not always about wanting a "sugar daddy" to buy you things. I mean a lot of girls (including myself) like presents and all that, but I've been in poor money situations with guys. The guy I almost married, for Valentine's Day, he couldn't afford roses for me because we had just been through a VERY BIG money issue, so instead he made me paper roses and a card talking about our first Valentine's Day we ever had together. It was much more thoughtful than roses and it was incredibly sweet. Money isn't everything, but in terms of an engagement ring, I guess I just think of it differently.

Smiley33 · 10-16-2002, 11:55 PM

the things i do for you, affect. the things i do.

Salena Child · 10-17-2002, 12:52 AM

i would go with grandmas.

i was told an engagement ring is supposed to cost the guy one months salary not three!

Lie · 10-17-2002, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by tootsie
i would have been happy with any ring as long as it meant something.....does that make sense? but ive never met a girl that didnt like a big diamond

Hi, nice to meet you.

kypper · 10-17-2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Salena Child
i would go with grandmas.

i was told an engagement ring is supposed to cost the guy one months salary not three!

Considering how much salaries waver, I don't know if that's really accurate. I mean, that hobo down the street really does only need an onion ring, where as Melinda Gates should be crushed under a 10-storey diamond.

cozmic · 10-17-2002, 01:54 AM

I've been doing a little research. The average price of a typcial solitaire diamond engagement ring is $1500. I don't think that's too bad...

Lie · 10-17-2002, 02:42 AM

This is the way I look at it. I don't really like diamonds or traditional jewelry much because I think it gets in the way and it's not really me. So if I were going to get married to someone and we were going to be sharing funds, why would I want them to blow money that could very well be used to buy, say, a really nice guitar or even a used car or a some really huge stacks of CDs on a gift that I wouldn't even really wear that much? I do think engagement or wedding rings that are passed down as heirlooms are nice, because old jewelry can be cool and it can mean more if it comes directly from a family member instead of a store, but all in all, I think the idea of buying your fiance an expensive ring to prove, or show her the worth of your love is kind of ridiculous. If she loves diamonds and that would make her really happy, by all means, go ahead and splurge for the big rock, but it's not as if there's a universal way of treating someone well or offering them the best you have.

Affect · 10-17-2002, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Lie
This is the way I look at it. I don't really like diamonds or traditional jewelry much because I think it gets in the way and it's not really me. So if I were going to get married to someone and we were going to be sharing funds, why would I want them to blow money that could very well be used to buy, say, a really nice guitar or even a used car or a some really huge stacks of CDs on a gift that I wouldn't even really wear that much? I do think engagement or wedding rings that are passed down as heirlooms are nice, because old jewelry can be cool and it can mean more if it comes directly from a family member instead of a store, but all in all, I think the idea of buying your fiance an expensive ring to prove, or show her the worth of your love is kind of ridiculous. If she loves diamonds and that would make her really happy, by all means, go ahead and splurge for the big rock, but it's not as if there's a universal way of treating someone well or offering them the best you have.

However there is quite the social stigma that still exists around diamond rings. I truly feel sorry for the girl that is sporting a 20 point engagement ring around the office. Girls are brutal, and she's pretty much guaranteed to get made fun of as she shows it off around the office. When someone learns that a girl recently got engaged, what is the first thing that everyone wants to see? The ring. If you've got a joke of a ring on your finger, you're probably not going to feel very good about showing it to other people. If you can't afford to sink a marginal amount of money into something that is going to be on your significant others hand for the rest of their life, you seriously have something wrong with you. I guess the ability to manage money has been completely lost with 90% of the world.

Like I said earlier, I really think that Smiley33's ring is a joke. It looks like it was picked up on sale at K-Mart Jewelers. Even on a so called "college budget" you can afford something a little nicer than that.

A ring is far more substantial than a stack of CD's, or a guitar. But you probably won't understand, because that's the way you are. I wouldn't label it as trashy, but I would label it as classless.

Affect · 10-17-2002, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by Smiley33

p.s. John Lennon (AND PAUL) said "All you need is love." How can you be such a John Lennon fan, Aff?

John wrote it. He knew that it played a big part. However, in relation to engagement rings, one should place the importance of that over a new outfit, or a new video game. That's just fucking shallow.

ammy · 10-17-2002, 03:27 AM

none of the above.

when dan and I decided to get married, we did it together. When he propsed, it was spur of the moment and a surprize to both of us.

we went out together and bought, together, a wedding band set, and an engagment ring for me and him.

it was terribly remantic, and we love having been able to choose our rings together.

Lie · 10-17-2002, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Affect
However there is quite the social stigma that still exists around diamond rings. I truly feel sorry for the girl that is sporting a 20 point engagement ring around the office. Girls are brutal, and she's pretty much guaranteed to get made fun of as she shows it off around the office. When someone learns that a girl recently got engaged, what is the first thing that everyone wants to see? The ring. If you've got a joke of a ring on your finger, you're probably not going to feel very good about showing it to other people. If you can't afford to sink a marginal amount of money into something that is going to be on your significant others hand for the rest of their life, you seriously have something wrong with you. I guess the ability to manage money has been completely lost with 90% of the world.

Like I said earlier, I really think that Smiley33's ring is a joke. It looks like it was picked up on sale at K-Mart Jewelers. Even on a so called "college budget" you can afford something a little nicer than that.

A ring is far more substantial than a stack of CD's, or a guitar. But you probably won't understand, because that's the way you are. I wouldn't label it as trashy, but I would label it as classless.

Yeah, but like you said, it is a social stigma. It depends on how important it is to her. If she doesn't say anything about it beforehand, I think the guy is obligated to get her a nice ring because it's the right gesture and the social norm, and I do think that if you're going to go for the ring, it should be nice, so I do get what you're saying. I wouldn't really want an engagement ring, but that doesn't mean I would want to settle for a cheap imitation of the real thing. I mean, if it was not the typical engagement ring, but a piece of jewelry more suited to what I would normally wear and it was custom-made or something like that, I would think that would be cool. But if it was something made to look like an expensive diamond ring but really wasn't, that would piss me off.

It's not so much the price of the ring that's important as the intentions behind it. If a guy doesn't get a girl a nice engagement ring because he'd rather use the money for something else, that's classless. If the two of them together agree that they'd rather spend the money on something else and she really means it, then it's not. I guess it depends how close the world you live in is to the social norm, or how much you care about that kind of thing. I agree that getting a traditional-looking but cheap ring is half-assed, but I guess it doesn't jump out at me because I don't even notice that kind of thing. I wouldn't know an expensive piece of jewelry if it lodged itself in my eye.

Silverstream · 10-17-2002, 08:28 AM

personally i would rather have a small stone in a plain band than a big diamond...i just think big stones are tacky.
if a guy got me a little square emerald in a plain gold band i would much prefer that to a big chunky diamond.
then again i like simple jewellery...

i just dont think its necessary to spend a lot of money on a ring.

or you could do what my grandparents did...when they first got married they were both 19 and only had 20 dollars to their name after thier honeymoon, and the ring wasnt big at all.
they opened thier own buisness and became millionaires, and my grandad bought my grandma a platnium band with the biggest diamond i have ever seen set in it to replace her small ring.

DeviousJ · 10-17-2002, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Lie

Hi, nice to meet you.

You don't like big diamonds? Then what will you use in your death ray?

kypper · 10-17-2002, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Affect

Like I said earlier, I really think that Smiley33's ring is a joke. It looks like it was picked up on sale at K-Mart Jewelers. Even on a so called "college budget" you can afford something a little nicer than that.

Since you've mainly seen the wedding band, and not the engagement ring, I'll just stop you right there. A two-tone, hand-woven 18-K wedding band is quite nice for most people in this world, thanks.

But I'm not going to take offence; you're just proving you're an asshole on all levels and completely shallow beyond belief. We eloped, and I did a damned good job considering the budget and the time I had... and yes, she has a nice expensive engagement ring, but I happen to think that because it's an heirloom, it's worth even more; it doesn't make me a cheapskate, it makes me a romantic, and to top it off, IT IS WHAT SHE GENUINELY WANTED YOU DUMB RETARDED FUCK SO DROP IT AND GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

twilightfadez · 10-17-2002, 11:57 AM

i think the day i get proposed to *is still waiting*

i wanna design and make my own rings.......i have all the machines at school to make them, all i would need is to design them and buy the silver or gold or whatever materials i need. it's more special to me if it's something that comes from me (or him, if he wants to help make it) than something really expensive and store bought.,...i'd rather use the $ on home stuff

Affect · 10-17-2002, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by kypper
it's worth even more; it doesn't make me a cheapskate, it makes me a romantic, and to top it off, IT IS WHAT SHE GENUINELY WANTED YOU DUMB RETARDED FUCK SO DROP IT AND GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

Keep telling yourself that, you ghetto fuck. Way to give her a nice wedding. Drop 100$ on some dude that looks like Tony Danza, and you've got your paper in hand. Way to go, Mr. Romantic.

obscured01 · 10-17-2002, 12:03 PM

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A 3-month salary's paycheque into a huge rock, else the fucker can take a hike! - 5 - 14.71%

I have a hard time believing anyone would turn down a marriage proposal because they didn't get the engagement ring that they wanted/it wasn't big enough. That seems extremely shallow.

Lie · 10-17-2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by DeviousJ
You don't like big diamonds? Then what will you use in your death ray?

Ooh, good point. I'll have to reconsider.

Affect · 10-17-2002, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by obscured01

I have a hard time believing anyone would turn down a marriage proposal because they didn't get the engagement ring that they wanted/it wasn't big enough. That seems extremely shallow.

Of course not. Don't be dumb. Nowhere was it said that the girl say no if the rock isn't massive.

jenn · 10-17-2002, 12:36 PM

don't get me wrong, when that time comes for me, i'd love to have something flashy as hell... but that's really not the point of an engagement ring. i see it as being more of a symbol... it's something you can't really put a price tag on. if the person i'm going to marry is well off and he gets me a 3ct diamond, it'll mean the same thing to me if the guy i'm going to marry is not well off and it's a band with a single diamond chip. it's about love, not money...at least in my opinion. a persons love for another is not cheapened by lack of finantial funds...nor is it accentuated by a huge rock. look at hollywood...they're walking around with 6ct diamonds on their fingers- yet they're divorced within a year. money means nothing in that context. i honestly care more about the person than the ring...if he decides to spend tons on it, that's his choice- but it won't affect my decision either way. i dunno. i'm a hopeless romantic anyway.

obscured01 · 10-17-2002, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Affect
Of course not. Don't be dumb. Nowhere was it said that the girl say no if the rock isn't massive.

No, I wasn't saying either you or him was saying that, I was simply commenting on the fact that it said '...or the fucker could take a hike' in the poll question.

View Poll Results: What kind of engagement ring would you prefer?
A 3-month salary's paycheque into a huge rock, else the fucker can take a hike!	7	17.50%
His grandmother's engagement ring (awwwwwwwwwwwww)	7	17.50%
Whatever he can afford, as long as it's from him.	17	42.50%
Onion ring from Burger King	4	10.00%
Long as there's a wedding band at all, I'm happy.	5	12.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

10-16-2002, 08:41 PM	#1
kypper Ownz Posts: 653	Inspired by Affectation... Engagement rings! Women speak up! Which would you prefer?

10-16-2002, 11:44 PM	#8
Smiley33 Minion of Satan Posts: 6,542	THIS ARGUMENT IS EXCESSIVELY HOMOSEXUAL AND SHALL CEASE NOW. I LOVE MY RING I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT WEARS MY RING. I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL EVER WEAR MY RING AND THEREFORE MY OPINION OF IT OVERRULES. p.s. John Lennon (AND PAUL) said "All you need is love." How can you be such a John Lennon fan, Aff? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-16-2002, 11:55 PM	#11
Smiley33 Minion of Satan Posts: 6,542	family heirloom the things i do for you, affect. the things i do. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-17-2002, 03:27 AM	#19
ammy yer mom Posts: 23,180	none of the above. when dan and I decided to get married, we did it together. When he propsed, it was spur of the moment and a surprize to both of us. we went out together and bought, together, a wedding band set, and an engagment ring for me and him. it was terribly remantic, and we love having been able to choose our rings together. __________________ If god can do anything - can he make a mistake?

10-16-2002, 08:47 PM	#2
tootsie Minion of Satan Location: go go gadget goggler Posts: 5,346	i would have been happy with any ring as long as it meant something.....does that make sense? but ive never met a girl that didnt like a big diamond

10-16-2002, 08:59 PM	#4
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	i voted for the wedding band. i can't imagine wearing a huge rock too often. especially since i'm so clumsy i'd probably knock it out of its setting. but diamonds don't scratch

10-16-2002, 10:10 PM	#5
Affect Fuck Location: xxx Posts: 5,360	Anyone can afford three months salary, dumbshit. You're looking long term here, not just towards the next three months. But it's nice to know that you went the cheap ass route, and invested in a nice 100$ gold band. Now you can afford to pick up that new Playstation game that you've had your eye on for weeks now. Congratulations!

10-16-2002, 11:38 PM	#7
jenn Minion of Satan Location: new york Posts: 6,325	i'd rather a person spend the money on the wedding itself, or the honeymoon, or things that are needed for the household than to spend a zillion dollars on a ring. yes, you'll wear it for the rest of your life, and that's why i believe simplicity is the best way. it's going to be sentimental no matter what.

10-16-2002, 11:46 PM	#9
Random Female Apocalyptic Poster Location: white folks' ghetto, San Diego Posts: 2,005	i Honestly don't want an engagement ring. it' sjust not my style, I guess. and diamonds never really appealed to me. I've always just wanted a simple platinum band, no stones. maybe have the band be twisted or with some design or somethin, but other than that nothing.

10-16-2002, 11:50 PM	#10
KrazeeStacee Immortal Location: Sherwood Forest Posts: 21,296	I dunno, I'm kind of torn here. Maybe this doesn't make sense to anyone else, but to me, I would want the guy to buy an expensive ring (not INCREDIBLY expensive) because its like, its going to take a while to save that money, that not only means that you've both had a while to think about if its really the right decision, but it also shows how devoted the guy is to making you happy. Its hard to explain, does that make sense? Its not always about wanting a "sugar daddy" to buy you things. I mean a lot of girls (including myself) like presents and all that, but I've been in poor money situations with guys. The guy I almost married, for Valentine's Day, he couldn't afford roses for me because we had just been through a VERY BIG money issue, so instead he made me paper roses and a card talking about our first Valentine's Day we ever had together. It was much more thoughtful than roses and it was incredibly sweet. Money isn't everything, but in terms of an engagement ring, I guess I just think of it differently.

10-17-2002, 12:52 AM	#12
Salena Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: Ohio Posts: 2,127	i would go with grandmas. i was told an engagement ring is supposed to cost the guy one months salary not three!

10-17-2002, 01:54 AM	#15
cozmic Pledge Location: austin Posts: 181	I've been doing a little research. The average price of a typcial solitaire diamond engagement ring is $1500. I don't think that's too bad...

10-17-2002, 02:42 AM	#16
Lie Socialphobic Location: Goin' out West where they'll appreciate me Posts: 10,001	This is the way I look at it. I don't really like diamonds or traditional jewelry much because I think it gets in the way and it's not really me. So if I were going to get married to someone and we were going to be sharing funds, why would I want them to blow money that could very well be used to buy, say, a really nice guitar or even a used car or a some really huge stacks of CDs on a gift that I wouldn't even really wear that much? I do think engagement or wedding rings that are passed down as heirlooms are nice, because old jewelry can be cool and it can mean more if it comes directly from a family member instead of a store, but all in all, I think the idea of buying your fiance an expensive ring to prove, or show her the worth of your love is kind of ridiculous. If she loves diamonds and that would make her really happy, by all means, go ahead and splurge for the big rock, but it's not as if there's a universal way of treating someone well or offering them the best you have.

10-17-2002, 08:28 AM	#21
Silverstream Demi-God Location: Australia Posts: 493	personally i would rather have a small stone in a plain band than a big diamond...i just think big stones are tacky. if a guy got me a little square emerald in a plain gold band i would much prefer that to a big chunky diamond. then again i like simple jewellery... i just dont think its necessary to spend a lot of money on a ring. or you could do what my grandparents did...when they first got married they were both 19 and only had 20 dollars to their name after thier honeymoon, and the ring wasnt big at all. they opened thier own buisness and became millionaires, and my grandad bought my grandma a platnium band with the biggest diamond i have ever seen set in it to replace her small ring.

10-17-2002, 11:57 AM	#24
twilightfadez Socialphobic Location: Medellin, CO Posts: 10,511	i think the day i get proposed to is still waiting i wanna design and make my own rings.......i have all the machines at school to make them, all i would need is to design them and buy the silver or gold or whatever materials i need. it's more special to me if it's something that comes from me (or him, if he wants to help make it) than something really expensive and store bought.,...i'd rather use the $ on home stuff

10-17-2002, 12:36 PM	#29
jenn Minion of Satan Location: new york Posts: 6,325	don't get me wrong, when that time comes for me, i'd love to have something flashy as hell... but that's really not the point of an engagement ring. i see it as being more of a symbol... it's something you can't really put a price tag on. if the person i'm going to marry is well off and he gets me a 3ct diamond, it'll mean the same thing to me if the guy i'm going to marry is not well off and it's a band with a single diamond chip. it's about love, not money...at least in my opinion. a persons love for another is not cheapened by lack of finantial funds...nor is it accentuated by a huge rock. look at hollywood...they're walking around with 6ct diamonds on their fingers- yet they're divorced within a year. money means nothing in that context. i honestly care more about the person than the ring...if he decides to spend tons on it, that's his choice- but it won't affect my decision either way. i dunno. i'm a hopeless romantic anyway.