Over a $ billion given for Tsunami relief...

The Pashing Smumpkin · 01-06-2005, 11:58 AM

Does that mean Australian's are better than everyone else?
Or more importantly, does that mean I don't have to donate?

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 12:33 PM

yeah thats pretty crazy. its technically like 840 million, US dollars, which is what everyone is keeping score by, but whatever if you count private donations to its almost a billion. it shouldnt be this way, but there is this sense of rivalry or competetion in the giving, that if you give more than some country youre better than them. its productive, but its doesnt make sense, people should just give what they can and relax about it. australia is way in the lead. most dollar amount and most in gdp. germany is giving like 700 million too. norway is 2nd in % of gdp, which makes sense.

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 12:37 PM

im sure some people here will just love this, but france is the second lowest contributer by gdp, next to the UAE. i wonder how many americans defending america against the percentage of gdp argument, saying how irrelevant a scale it is, will now use it against france

jczeroman · 01-06-2005, 12:42 PM

The idea of a "giving contest" makes me want to puke.

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 12:44 PM

hey well it exists and at leasts serves a good purpose. i dont think anyone will be complaining too much. i think wed all sit back and gladly watch our countries out give each other

Coen · 01-06-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper
hey well it exists and at leasts serves a good purpose. i dont think anyone will be complaining too much. i think wed all sit back and gladly watch our countries out give each other

It's stupid. You shouldn't make a game out of these things. It's reality..

Sugar Echo · 01-06-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman
The idea of a "giving contest" makes me want to puke.

Isn't this what it seems tho? How sad.

Isle · 01-06-2005, 12:49 PM

i haven't donated. i have a feeling some of those "charities" are just pocketing the relief money.

The Pashing Smumpkin · 01-06-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Coen

It's stupid. You shouldn't make a game out of these things. It's reality..

You and sleeper both make good points. I think in the end if ego drives the dollars up for the relief then that's ok! Its helping isn't it?

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 12:52 PM

i dont see how it couldnt have happened. its human nature, this shit will always happen, and its happened all through the past as well. who can out-grieve, out-mourn, out-give, out-cry over something. im sure there were more than a few people faking the tears on 9/11 for mourning-cred, or people wearing those ribbons deriding those without, and people wearing two deriding those with one. but for a change, this comes to something a good end so im not going to complain too much about it

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman
The idea of a "giving contest" makes me want to puke.

free competition, good for everyone, human nature, the world is perfect now

MeAndMyLlama · 01-06-2005, 12:59 PM

giving wars are sick but i also wouldnt mind if bill gates and donald trump got into a giving war

Nimrod's Son · 01-06-2005, 01:12 PM

I organized a donation drive in my office. It wasn't huge, but I raised almost $1200. I wish everyone would stop politicizing the donations, though.

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
$1200.

so you think youre better than me, huh?

jczeroman · 01-06-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper

free competition, good for everyone, human nature, the world is perfect now

Hardly.

jenn · 01-06-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper
yeah thats pretty crazy. its technically like 840 million, US dollars, which is what everyone is keeping score by, but whatever if you count private donations to its almost a billion. it shouldnt be this way, but there is this sense of rivalry or competetion in the giving, that if you give more than some country youre better than them. its productive, but its doesnt make sense, people should just give what they can and relax about it. australia is way in the lead. most dollar amount and most in gdp. germany is giving like 700 million too. norway is 2nd in % of gdp, which makes sense.

better than an arms race, no?

Nimrod's Son · 01-06-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper

so you think youre better than me, huh?

Well yes, but the donation thing has nothing to do with that.

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by jczeroman

Hardly.

lighten up

jczeroman · 01-06-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper

lighten up

here's this, which is kind of what I'm talking about:

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Originally posted by GlasgowKiss
Nope, my government is already spending my nations taxes on aid to the stricken region on a PR exercise.

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 01:43 PM

the politics of it are undeniable, but i do think some nations are giving on some level out of the goodness of their heart. few, but some. maybe.

and i was just poking fun at the capitalist creed you always dole out in every thread, dont take offense or anything

BeautifulLoser · 01-06-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper
yeah thats pretty crazy. its technically like 840 million, US dollars, which is what everyone is keeping score by, but whatever if you count private donations to its almost a billion. it shouldnt be this way, but there is this sense of rivalry or competetion in the giving, that if you give more than some country youre better than them. its productive, but its doesnt make sense, people should just give what they can and relax about it. australia is way in the lead. most dollar amount and most in gdp. germany is giving like 700 million too. norway is 2nd in % of gdp, which makes sense.

Yeah, it all started when the Undersecretary of the UN called the US stingy, I think. Since then, it's turned into a big, stupid race.

BeautifulLoser · 01-06-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by MeAndMyLlama
giving wars are sick but i also wouldnt mind if bill gates and donald trump got into a giving war

Bill Gates probably is, but I don't think he'd announce if he donated alot. The President mentioned in one of his recent speeches that he would be calling on a certain few "private citizens" to make generous donations. I'm sure he meant Bill.

Why Am I So Ugly? · 01-06-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I organized a donation drive in my office. It wasn't huge, but I raised almost $1200. I wish everyone would stop politicizing the donations, though.

seriously, stop bragging about it. its getting to be sad.

alexthestampede · 01-06-2005, 03:46 PM

i think this is one case where america should step back and allow other countries the chance to be no 1

yo soy el mejor · 01-06-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by BeautifulLoser
Bill Gates probably is, but I don't think he'd announce if he donated alot. The President mentioned in one of his recent speeches that he would be calling on a certain few "private citizens" to make generous donations. I'm sure he meant Bill.

and sppunk.

BeautifulLoser · 01-06-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by yo soy el mejor

and sppunk.

01-06-2005, 11:58 AM	#1
The Pashing Smumpkin Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,128	Over a $ billion given for Tsunami relief... Does that mean Australian's are better than everyone else? Or more importantly, does that mean I don't have to donate?

01-06-2005, 12:33 PM	#2
sleeper Minion of Satan Posts: 8,801	yeah thats pretty crazy. its technically like 840 million, US dollars, which is what everyone is keeping score by, but whatever if you count private donations to its almost a billion. it shouldnt be this way, but there is this sense of rivalry or competetion in the giving, that if you give more than some country youre better than them. its productive, but its doesnt make sense, people should just give what they can and relax about it. australia is way in the lead. most dollar amount and most in gdp. germany is giving like 700 million too. norway is 2nd in % of gdp, which makes sense.

01-06-2005, 12:37 PM	#3
sleeper Minion of Satan Posts: 8,801	im sure some people here will just love this, but france is the second lowest contributer by gdp, next to the UAE. i wonder how many americans defending america against the percentage of gdp argument, saying how irrelevant a scale it is, will now use it against france

01-06-2005, 12:42 PM	#4
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	The idea of a "giving contest" makes me want to puke.

01-06-2005, 12:44 PM	#5
sleeper Minion of Satan Posts: 8,801	hey well it exists and at leasts serves a good purpose. i dont think anyone will be complaining too much. i think wed all sit back and gladly watch our countries out give each other

01-06-2005, 12:49 PM	#8
Isle Braindead Location: Unison Posts: 19,375	i haven't donated. i have a feeling some of those "charities" are just pocketing the relief money.

01-06-2005, 12:52 PM	#10
sleeper Minion of Satan Posts: 8,801	i dont see how it couldnt have happened. its human nature, this shit will always happen, and its happened all through the past as well. who can out-grieve, out-mourn, out-give, out-cry over something. im sure there were more than a few people faking the tears on 9/11 for mourning-cred, or people wearing those ribbons deriding those without, and people wearing two deriding those with one. but for a change, this comes to something a good end so im not going to complain too much about it

01-06-2005, 12:59 PM	#12
MeAndMyLlama Location: Is this the rest of our lives? Posts: 2,880	giving wars are sick but i also wouldnt mind if bill gates and donald trump got into a giving war

01-06-2005, 01:12 PM	#13
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	I organized a donation drive in my office. It wasn't huge, but I raised almost $1200. I wish everyone would stop politicizing the donations, though.

01-06-2005, 01:43 PM	#20
sleeper Minion of Satan Posts: 8,801	the politics of it are undeniable, but i do think some nations are giving on some level out of the goodness of their heart. few, but some. maybe. and i was just poking fun at the capitalist creed you always dole out in every thread, dont take offense or anything

01-06-2005, 03:46 PM	#24
alexthestampede Banned Location: I am from the sea! Posts: 4,947	i think this is one case where america should step back and allow other countries the chance to be no 1