Most dissapointing GameCube game of 2002: Super Mario Sunshine

[Crippler]

From gamespot.com:

It seems almost ludicrous that a game could score a great score of 8.0 on GameSpot's admittedly tough rating scale and still be considered a disappointment, and yet the standard that past Mario games have set is so high that anything less than a revolutionary step for the series can be considered a letdown. Consider the history of Mario: Super Mario Bros. defined what it meant to be a 2D platformer, Super Mario World expanded and redefined the 2D platformer, then Super Mario 64 made the most profound leap, flawlessly translating the 2D platformer into a 3D world. Sure, Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO's overly simplified fighting system outraged and disappointed 2D fighter fans, but the disappointment Sunshine yielded to discriminating fans of the Mario series was on a much grander scale. After six long years since Super Mario 64 came out, the best Nintendo could come up with in that time was some slightly bigger environments and a backpack-mounted water cannon? It may still be a great game, but all of GameSpot's editors agree that Super Mario Sunshine just doesn't live up to its revolutionary history, which is why it gains the dubious distinction of being the most disappointing GameCube game of 2002.

[Crippler]

Originally posted by Graveflower
I agree.

That's outweighed by Metroid Prime though. My god what a great game.

What you've said in the past about Nintendo being content to rest on its laurels really does apply in the case of SMS.

Hey Sean, check out www.gamespot.com's Best and Worst of XBox 2002. I wanna read your opinions on their picks.

[Crippler]

That XBox game you love, Gunvalkierye or whatever, was listed as one of the most dissapointing games of 2002 for the Xbox.

[strange_one]

well they also listed sunshine as the best gc platformer for the year...so go figure

[Crippler]

Originally posted by strange_one
well they also listed sunshine as the best gc platformer for the year...so go figure

It's still nothing more than a souped-up Mario 64. Let's face it, it's a good game from a series that's supposed to deliver groundbreaking gaming (never mind the stupid educational Mario games for the SNES).

[strange_one]

Originally posted by Crippler


It's still nothing more than a souped-up Mario 64. Let's face it, it's a good game from a series that's supposed to deliver groundbreaking gaming (never mind the stupid educational Mario games for the SNES).

I think that when we see Mario 128 at the end of next year or whenever, we will be a little more satisfied....at least I hope so anyway

[skippy]

Originally posted by Crippler


It's still nothing more than a souped-up Mario 64. Let's face it, it's a good game from a series that's supposed to deliver groundbreaking gaming (never mind the stupid educational Mario games for the SNES).

Miyamoto always intended for Mario Sunshine to be essentially a sequel to Mario 64. Nintendo breaks plenty of ground. I think it's enough for Mario Sunshine to be a superior, fun to play platformer (which it is).

[Crippler]

Originally posted by Mark LeDrew


Miyamoto always intended for Mario Sunshine to be essentially a sequel to Mario 64. Nintendo breaks plenty of ground. I think it's enough for Mario Sunshine to be a superior, fun to play platformer (which it is).

If I wanted to play SM64, I'd play SM64.

[skippy]

Originally posted by Crippler


If I wanted to play SM64, I'd play SM64.

C'mon dude, Sunshine is a definite step forward from SM64. The water pack alone adds tons of unique game play.

[Crippler]

Originally posted by Mark LeDrew


C'mon dude, Sunshine is a definite step forward from SM64. The water pack alone adds tons of unique game play.

Just like the cape in SMW was a huge step forward from the Raccoon Tail in SMB3. Riiight.

[Crippler]

Originally posted by Graveflower
Gun Valkyrie remains one of the games of the year for any platform. I guess people are too lazy for an actual challenging game that takes more than 5 minutes to master.

No offense intended Sean, but I know a fair amount of people who've tried the game, and you are the only person I've heard of that actually likes the game.

You're in the not-so-vast minority, good sir.

[strange_one]

Originally posted by Graveflower

Splinter Cell is amazing. Definitely the game of the year on XboX

do you have an x-box as well sean? anyway, yes splinter cell is beyond brilliant, one of the best aspects about it I think is its difficulty and the patience needed to master it