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Old 08-24-2004, 04:30 AM   #1
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Default faggy canadian gymnast gets porked out of a medal and nobody care.

in the vault. you probably don't know what i'm talking about unless you too are canadian because nbc didn't act like there was any kind of problem with the scoring as it was given. meanwhile, cbc (canadian broadcasting corporation) went off the fucking handle. before the last guy, a romanian, did his vaults the canadian guy was sitting in 3rd place. this romanian guy did the best vault of the competition on his first vault (getting a 9.9), and fell on his second (getting a 9.3). he ended up in third, knocking the canadian dude into fourth.

on the one hand, even as someone who knows fuck all about gymnastics, i can tell that the romanian dude was clearly the best of the bunch and his falling was a freak occurance. before he fell on his second vault, he was pretty much a lock for gold (from what i can tell), and if he had done even a moderately good 2nd vault he would have ended up first and knocked the canadian out of the medals anyway.

on the OTHER hand, the romanian dude fell and got a 9.3something for the vault. he fell. apparently if you FALL, then getting a 9.3 is not something that should happen. i'm no gymnastics expert here, but that sound about right. only a 6-tenths deduction for falling forward, to the side and clear off the landing platform on to your face? and that assumes the vault was perfect besides the landing (it had a max score of 9.9). please.

on yet another hand that canadian dude is an annoying fruit and i'll cringe and grind my teeth to dust if the canadian olympic officials whine and whine and whine and get him the medal he rightly deserves by whining like a bunch of bitches. it's the figure skating thing all over again, only even less people care.

 
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That first vault by the Romanian was righteous. I doubt your Canuck did anything even close to that.

Gymastics scoring is gay in any case. I don't know how diving avoids this kind of controversy.

 
Old 08-24-2004, 04:41 AM   #3
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Shewfelt finishes 4th; Canada protests

The Canadian Press

8/23/2004

ATHENS (CP) - Angry Canadian gymnastics officials say judging irregularities cost Kyle Shewfelt an Olympic bronze medal in the vault Monday night, an injustice exacerbated by the fact that their appeal has seemingly been ignored.

Shewfelt, the Calgary gymnast who won Canada's first gold medal of the Games in Sunday's floor exercise, finished fourth in the vault. He was edged off the podium by Marian Dragulescu despite the fact the Romanian muffed his landing.

J.P. Caron, president and CEO of Gymnastics Canada, said it was ``mathematically impossible'' for Dragulescu to receive the score he was awarded on his second vault.

Canadian officials also said the marks for Dragulescu's vault were improperly tabulated.

Gymnastics Canada officials were further infuriated when Romanian Adrian Stoica of the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) refused to hear their protest. Stoica is the technical director for the Olympic meet.

``I was shut down,'' said Kelly Manjak, Shewfelt's longtime coach and mentor. ``They wouldn't accept it. They didn't want to look at me, they didn't want to talk to me. They were rather rude to me. It was sort of an insult.''

Tony Smith, another Canadian coach, said this isn't their first brush with Stoica.

``We've had trouble with Adrian Stoica for years,'' said Smith, a native of Calgary. ``He's the Teflon technical director.''

Smith said Canada won't let the matter drop.

``We're going to pursue it,'' he said. ``We're going to see where we have to go with this. It that means going to a higher level than FIG, then we're going to try it.''

Gymnastics Canada may ask Slava Corn of Toronto, a member of the FIG technical committee, to intervene.

Adding further intrigue to a bewildering chain of events, Shewfelt and Dragulescu tied in points during Sunday's floor competition. Shewfelt was awarded the gold using a tiebreaking formula.

During Monday's competition Shewfelt fell to fourth when Dragulescu, the last competitor, received better marks despite sliding sideways off the mat landing his second vault.

Even with the slip the judges gave Dragulescu a 9.325. Dragulescu had nailed his first vault, earning a 9.900. That translated into a final score of 9.612.

Shewfelt's first vault earned a mark of 9.687, with the second worth 9.512 for a final mark of 9.599.

Spain's Gervasio Deferr won the gold with a score of 9.737 while Evgeni Sarponenko of Latvia took silver with a mark of 9.706.

Gymnastics Canada's complain is twofold.

First, it argues that on Dragulescu's second vault he landed out of bounds, put his hand on the ground and took two steps. All these mistakes should have cost him points, yet he was still awarded a score of 9.325.

``There is no possible way for him to score even a nine, yet he scored a 9.325, something ridiculous,'' said Smith.

The second argument is based on how the scores were tabulated.

After a vault, a panel of judges give their scores. The high and low score are thrown out, and the rest are averaged.

For any score over nine, international rules say the head judge is supposed to ensure all the scores are within .2 of each other.

But the scores for Dragulescu's second vault were outside the .2 range.

``The judging has been a little bit horrendous all week long,'' said Manjak. ``I don't want to sit silent and go away. I believe Kyle deserved that bronze medal. I'm doing what I can.''

The Olympic gymnastics competition has had a World Wrestling Entertainment air about it all week.

Even as Smith and Manjak were pleading their case to the media, the near-capacity crowd at the Olympic Indoor Hall were booing their disapproval over a score given to Russian star Alexei Nemov in the high bar final.

The crowd's vehement reaction caused a 10-minute delay in the program.

Earlier this week, three judges were suspended following erroneous markings in a rings competition.

South Korea is up in arms over a scoring error that gave American Paul Hamm the all-around title over Yang Tae-young.

While a lot of people were talking Monday night, the one who remained silent was Shewfelt. He sat in the stands with his girlfriend and tried to distance himself from the dispute.

``Kyle doesn't know what's really going on right now,'' said Manjak. ``I don't think he needs any more spotlight in a negative way. He did his job today. He's upset that people are telling him he should have been a bronze medallist.''

Interviewed after the event, Shewfelt was gracious toward Dragulescu.

``He's a great competitor and a great gymnast,'' Shewfelt said. ``His first vault today was amazing, its huge. He stuck it. He yesterday was extremely courteous towards me. He had a lot of dignity when he came second. He said I did a better routine than him so I deserved to win.

``Landing two vaults I thought that was going to be enough when I saw him fall. It wasn't and I'm accepting it. I won a gold medal at the Olympics. I'm just the happiest guy in the world.''

Canada has won one gold medal at the Games but is involved in its second protest.

Last week Rowing Canada and the Canadian Olympic Committee appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in an attempt to have the disqualification of a rowing crew overturned. The appeal failed.

Smith agreed that some people may think Canadian coaches are simply whining because their athlete didn't win a medal.

``We may be whining but we're right,'' he said.

During the vault, Russia's Alexei Bondarenko, the first competitor, had a scary crash on his first vault, landing face-down, almost on his head.

He took a few seconds to gather himself and went ahead with his second vault, but landed on his side. He was clearly hurting and was later carried out of the arena on a stretcher.

Doctors said he had a spine injury, but found no neurological damage. He stayed at a hospital Monday night for further tests.

In other action, Kate Richardson of Coquitlam, B.C., finished seventh in the women's floor event.

 
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:42 AM   #4
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:52 AM   #5
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in the words of craig kilborn: a real man would be able to give up his gold and acknowledge the misunderstanding. in other news, a real man wouldn't be in tights on a pommel horse in the first place.

 
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I posted about this in the olympic thread and nobody responded, you jerks.

But he totally got robbed, they were required to deduct specific points from the other guy that they didn't deduct. It's in the rules.
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Old 08-24-2004, 05:08 AM   #7
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He accepted it and shrugged it off, it's the Canadians that files the complaint, not the athlete.

 
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``We may be whining but we're right,'' he said.
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Old 08-24-2004, 03:10 PM   #9
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canadians are notorious for whining when it comes to shit like this. i'm just happy when we get medals!
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canadians are notorious for whining when it comes to shit like this. i'm just happy when we get medals!
FU! The judges fucked up. It's a total scam. Some of the judging is subjective but they have to deduct certain amounts for certain things and they didn't.

 
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FU! The judges fucked up. It's a total scam. Some of the judging is subjective but they have to deduct certain amounts for certain things and they didn't.
You guys aren't the only ones who got jacked. Alexei Nemov was burned by the judges.

I'm sorry but that Romanian did a godlike vault to start off with, I think he deserves the bronze just for that vault.

 
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FU! The judges fucked up. It's a total scam. Some of the judging is subjective but they have to deduct certain amounts for certain things and they didn't.
thanks for reinforcing what i said about whiners.
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thanks for reinforcing what i said about whiners.
Go blow a goat.

 
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You guys aren't the only ones who got jacked. Alexei Nemov was burned by the judges.

I'm sorry but that Romanian did a godlike vault to start off with, I think he deserves the bronze just for that vault.
I'm not saying this was the only guy. But he got screwed.

I'm gonna go eat and watch some Olympics. Later.

 
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thanks for reinforcing what i said about whiners.

Are you guys not pals anymore?

 
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Are you guys not pals anymore?
sure we're pals. just because we're pals doesn't mean i'm not gonna call him out when he's being a whiner.
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I don't care if I'm whining because I'm right, just like those Canadian guys said.

I just saw the diving, biking, and hurdle things. Man the hurdle fall sucked.

 
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This whole thing is the main reason I have trouble taking any sport where the final results depend on somone else besides the athlete. There's no clock, no scoreboard, nothing concrete to base a win or loss on. You can get screwed out of a win just cause some guy doesn't like the way you tuck in your uniform.

Fuck, syncronized swimming is the worst for that, any sport where how much makeup you wear counts for something is not a fucking sport.

 
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This whole thing is the main reason I have trouble taking any sport where the final results depend on somone else besides the athlete. There's no clock, no scoreboard, nothing concrete to base a win or loss on. You can get screwed out of a win just cause some guy doesn't like the way you tuck in your uniform.

Fuck, syncronized swimming is the worst for that, any sport where how much makeup you wear counts for something is not a fucking sport.
I don't enjoy judged sports at all either. I like something quantifiable and not subjective.

Maybe the whining Canadians should have made another deal with the French or Russian judges like last time, eh?
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funnygeezus, you should be a reporter. that thread title is hilarious.

 
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and also the controversy lead to that girl doing a sexy layout in a "men's magazine"
It did?

 
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I'm sorry but that Romanian did a godlike vault to start off with, I think he deserves the bronze just for that vault.
but that is not the rules. Both jumps count. Period. Maybe they should follow the x-games and make it the best jump that counts. That way more people go for the big one instead of the safe one.

 
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Old 08-25-2004, 10:26 PM   #23
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I watched a bunch of the X Games and wish I saw more, the dirtbike events were the best ones. Those insane moves! My jaw would be hanging open on each one.

 
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