so what exactly is depression like?

Ihaman · 12-10-2002, 02:44 AM

...im not sure if this is it, or if it's just a fit of angst.

can anyone tell me what goes through a depressed persons mind whilst depressed?

Ihaman · 12-10-2002, 02:57 AM

welll, i've been following the same routine life for hte past 8 months straight, i've gone nowhere else but my room and work, except for the occasional rave, where i just sit in the corner and bob my head to the music.
i cant talk to any of my "friends" out of fear that i did something that would annoy them, or i already annoyed them, or their mad at me, or their talking shit about me. im afraid to meet new people, cause i think they're talking shit about me.

so i just sit in my room, posting on netphoria.

i dont feel upset, or sad. hmm.

Ihaman · 12-10-2002, 03:01 AM

ok, i dont think it's depression then.

*shrugs*

12-10-2002, 03:03 AM

Oh fuck.

Ihaman · 12-10-2002, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
Oh fuck.

?

12-10-2002, 03:06 AM

Holy crap.

Ihaman · 12-10-2002, 03:09 AM

maybe im just crazy or something.

sickbadthing · 12-10-2002, 03:57 AM

I think many people have those symptoms and aren't depressed. I have many of those symptoms and I know I'm not depressed. It almost seems to me (and many would disagree with me) that the symptoms are what many people feel just having to live life and deal with the stresses involved. They use the symptoms listed and fear factors and get people into thinking that they have a problem so that they'll see a doctor and try to get some medication. While saying that makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist, I don't think it's that far off. Life is hard. A psychiatrist could tell me that I have a chemical imbalance and that's why I'm prone to putting responsibilities off and why I never want to get out of bed and go to work. Is that really it? Is it not that I'm not really just kicking myself in the ass and facing up to regular life? I don't necessarily buy that you get so depressed that you don't realize you're depressed. I hear people talk about it at work how they're on this and that drug because it evens them out and it makes them feel better. It's bullshit though, because these same people on the drugs to make them feel better are the ones calling in sick all the time and I know it's because they have "anxiety". Anxiety and depression are different things but the symptoms are similar. My exwife had anxiety and began to develop phobias about going outside and being social. I think that she used it so that she didn't have to deal with regular life. People use their mental maladies as a crutch. I know that there are certain cases where they aren't, but I'm not going to believe for a minute that this happens to so many people.

Blah. What would these people do if they really had to deal with a shitty life? If they're depressed about being bored or having to deal with shit like having a job and paying bills, what would they do if they lived Rwanda and saw their families hacked to death with machettes? I think that it's really subjective how shitty you think your life is and a lot of times depression is used as an excuse. It seems like life has gotten too easy for people, so instead of being happy for having food, shelter and a great deal of security, that's not enough for them and they have to start feeling bad as if nothing is good in their lives. It's fucking crap and the only reason psychologists don't just slap the shit out of people and tell them to get over it is because you can't go to 6 years of college and get a degree in slapping the shit out of people.

sickbadthing · 12-10-2002, 04:12 AM

I think that suicide is a serious problem and people who are considering that really do need some help. It's pretty extreme and most people who say they have depression don't go that far. I know that they may have feelings of commiting suicide but most don't act on it. I had them for years and years but I understand now that I was being short sighted about my life.

I bring up Rwanda because it's an example of how bad things could be. It could be and industrialized country like Yugoslavia. It doesn't matter. I think that people don't put what they have into perspective.

12-10-2002, 05:05 AM

Problem is that psychology is a highly subjective discipline. It's not exactly a science and I think there are many quacks out there who are not qualified or responsible and look for a quick fix and a fat paycheck. Many people, like Chris said, go to the doctor to basically get a perscription for drugs. No one with serious depression is prescribed with Prozac. It's not strong enough. If those quick-fix doctors are just going to give people drugs to make people feel good they might as well just smoke out their patients.

twice · 12-10-2002, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by Ihaman
welll, i've been following the same routine life for hte past 8 months straight, i've gone nowhere else but my room and work, except for the occasional rave, where i just sit in the corner and bob my head to the music.
i cant talk to any of my "friends" out of fear that i did something that would annoy them, or i already annoyed them, or their mad at me, or their talking shit about me. im afraid to meet new people, cause i think they're talking shit about me.

so i just sit in my room, posting on netphoria.

i dont feel upset, or sad. hmm.

based on what you've said here, i'm assuming you're more paranoid than anything. i know you know this, but maybe you should try to change that situation.

on a related note...i hope i'm not wrong by assuming that you've been fucked over in some way to cause this kind of paranoia. in my situation...after getting fucked over and hurt after so many times, my paranoia just evolved into an inability to let my gaurd down. in a way i thought it was better, but instead i've found that i'm being false with myself and those i choose to be involved with by pretending that i've allowed myself to get close to them; when in fact i've always kept a safe distance away from them in one form or another...ultimately not allowing myself to feel any pain or true happiness. (am i making any sense?)

all i can say is that maybe you should try letting those feelings go. you know how i'm paranoid about the silliest shit when it comes to XxxXXxXX but nevertheless i'm slowly pushing myself to stop.

this is gay. IM me if you need to talk. hope you feel better, matt.

alabaster · 12-10-2002, 12:32 PM

Two yeas ago my parents forced my older brother to go to a clinic where they only treat severe mental disorders. Why? because they thought he was "too violent" (that's bullshit though, he never was that violent). Anyway he couldn't go out and receive any visits, and he stayed there for nearly a year.
He's been on medication for two years, deemed "bipolar", and it screwed his life up. I don't even know how to describe the angst I have (by the way english isn't my language).
He's now 25 and I know that deep inside he hates my parents for what they've done (I do too), and doesn't know where to go in life. I know he's NOT bipolar, and his medications transformed him into a vegetable. To make things worse he's jobless and still lives with them

I feel like screaming, as always.

lament · 12-10-2002, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by alabaster
I don't even know how to describe the angst I have

I feel like screaming, as always.

hmmm. It sounds like you should probably get some treatment for a mental disorder.

alabaster · 12-10-2002, 12:46 PM

I'm not telling everything but I think my parents really messed up with my brother and I. Consequently, it's highly probable that I need "help".
Regardless the irony behind your answer...

oui henri · 12-10-2002, 03:50 PM

-you start to self-estrange yourself from friends who in turn take it personally and decide that you no longer like them

-you find yourself making petty and obvious excuses to stay home and do nothing instead of going out and actually having a life

-you loose the passion behind your hobbies and interests

-you feel listless ALL of the time and cry for no apparent reason

-you have no desire to live whatsoever

-you become very apathetic towards life in general and everything that goes along with it (e.g. school work, job, relationships)

-you start relying on other people's opinions/comments to know how you're actually feeling and to figure out that you ACTUALLY have a problem

oui henri · 12-10-2002, 03:51 PM

it's funny how at the time you feel as though you have no problem at all, but looking back you see all these red flags.

Lie · 12-10-2002, 04:21 PM

That sort of world-weariness and paranoia is something completely different from depression that often has the same signs. That's what I'm like now. I'm not depressed. I haven't done my laundry in weeks and my room is a mess but I'm not depressed. I think in this day and age people are sabotaged with more information about depression they can handle, so when they start experiencing that kind of paranoia (which typically leads into or follows a depressive episode but sometimes stands on its own) they immediately assume the worst and as a consequence begin to spiral downward. Sometimes the only cure for it is to just lay low for a while.

oui henri · 12-10-2002, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by Lie
That sort of world-weariness and paranoia is something completely different from depression that often has the same signs. That's what I'm like now. I'm not depressed. I haven't done my laundry in weeks and my room is a mess but I'm not depressed. I think in this day and age people are sabotaged with more information about depression they can handle, so when they start experiencing that kind of paranoia (which typically leads into or follows a depressive episode but sometimes stands on its own) they immediately assume the worst and as a consequence begin to spiral downward. Sometimes the only cure for it is to just lay low for a while.

the symptoms of depression are all over the map so it's hard to diagnose as well.

for instance you could be gaining weight of losing weight
you could be sleeping too much or too little, etc.

12-10-2002, 02:44 AM	#1
Ihaman Sometimes, though. Location: Hazard, California Posts: 21,274	so what exactly is depression like? ...im not sure if this is it, or if it's just a fit of angst. can anyone tell me what goes through a depressed persons mind whilst depressed?

12-10-2002, 02:57 AM	#2
Ihaman Sometimes, though. Location: Hazard, California Posts: 21,274	welll, i've been following the same routine life for hte past 8 months straight, i've gone nowhere else but my room and work, except for the occasional rave, where i just sit in the corner and bob my head to the music. i cant talk to any of my "friends" out of fear that i did something that would annoy them, or i already annoyed them, or their mad at me, or their talking shit about me. im afraid to meet new people, cause i think they're talking shit about me. so i just sit in my room, posting on netphoria. i dont feel upset, or sad. hmm.

12-10-2002, 03:01 AM	#3
Ihaman Sometimes, though. Location: Hazard, California Posts: 21,274	ok, i dont think it's depression then. shrugs

12-10-2002, 03:09 AM	#7
Ihaman Sometimes, though. Location: Hazard, California Posts: 21,274	maybe im just crazy or something.

12-10-2002, 03:57 AM	#8
sickbadthing Out fart the hottie! Location: I have super gonorrhoea Posts: 24,316	I think many people have those symptoms and aren't depressed. I have many of those symptoms and I know I'm not depressed. It almost seems to me (and many would disagree with me) that the symptoms are what many people feel just having to live life and deal with the stresses involved. They use the symptoms listed and fear factors and get people into thinking that they have a problem so that they'll see a doctor and try to get some medication. While saying that makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist, I don't think it's that far off. Life is hard. A psychiatrist could tell me that I have a chemical imbalance and that's why I'm prone to putting responsibilities off and why I never want to get out of bed and go to work. Is that really it? Is it not that I'm not really just kicking myself in the ass and facing up to regular life? I don't necessarily buy that you get so depressed that you don't realize you're depressed. I hear people talk about it at work how they're on this and that drug because it evens them out and it makes them feel better. It's bullshit though, because these same people on the drugs to make them feel better are the ones calling in sick all the time and I know it's because they have "anxiety". Anxiety and depression are different things but the symptoms are similar. My exwife had anxiety and began to develop phobias about going outside and being social. I think that she used it so that she didn't have to deal with regular life. People use their mental maladies as a crutch. I know that there are certain cases where they aren't, but I'm not going to believe for a minute that this happens to so many people. Blah. What would these people do if they really had to deal with a shitty life? If they're depressed about being bored or having to deal with shit like having a job and paying bills, what would they do if they lived Rwanda and saw their families hacked to death with machettes? I think that it's really subjective how shitty you think your life is and a lot of times depression is used as an excuse. It seems like life has gotten too easy for people, so instead of being happy for having food, shelter and a great deal of security, that's not enough for them and they have to start feeling bad as if nothing is good in their lives. It's fucking crap and the only reason psychologists don't just slap the shit out of people and tell them to get over it is because you can't go to 6 years of college and get a degree in slapping the shit out of people.

12-10-2002, 04:12 AM	#9
sickbadthing Out fart the hottie! Location: I have super gonorrhoea Posts: 24,316	I think that suicide is a serious problem and people who are considering that really do need some help. It's pretty extreme and most people who say they have depression don't go that far. I know that they may have feelings of commiting suicide but most don't act on it. I had them for years and years but I understand now that I was being short sighted about my life. I bring up Rwanda because it's an example of how bad things could be. It could be and industrialized country like Yugoslavia. It doesn't matter. I think that people don't put what they have into perspective.

12-10-2002, 05:05 AM	#10
Mr. Rhinoceros Posts: n/a	Problem is that psychology is a highly subjective discipline. It's not exactly a science and I think there are many quacks out there who are not qualified or responsible and look for a quick fix and a fat paycheck. Many people, like Chris said, go to the doctor to basically get a perscription for drugs. No one with serious depression is prescribed with Prozac. It's not strong enough. If those quick-fix doctors are just going to give people drugs to make people feel good they might as well just smoke out their patients.

12-10-2002, 12:32 PM	#12
alabaster Pledge Location: fr Posts: 87	Two yeas ago my parents forced my older brother to go to a clinic where they only treat severe mental disorders. Why? because they thought he was "too violent" (that's bullshit though, he never was that violent). Anyway he couldn't go out and receive any visits, and he stayed there for nearly a year. He's been on medication for two years, deemed "bipolar", and it screwed his life up. I don't even know how to describe the angst I have (by the way english isn't my language). He's now 25 and I know that deep inside he hates my parents for what they've done (I do too), and doesn't know where to go in life. I know he's NOT bipolar, and his medications transformed him into a vegetable. To make things worse he's jobless and still lives with them I feel like screaming, as always.

12-10-2002, 12:46 PM	#14
alabaster Pledge Location: fr Posts: 87	I'm not telling everything but I think my parents really messed up with my brother and I. Consequently, it's highly probable that I need "help". Regardless the irony behind your answer...

12-10-2002, 03:50 PM	#15
oui henri Minion of Satan Location: Fuckoffity Land Posts: 5,270	-you start to self-estrange yourself from friends who in turn take it personally and decide that you no longer like them -you find yourself making petty and obvious excuses to stay home and do nothing instead of going out and actually having a life -you loose the passion behind your hobbies and interests -you feel listless ALL of the time and cry for no apparent reason -you have no desire to live whatsoever -you become very apathetic towards life in general and everything that goes along with it (e.g. school work, job, relationships) -you start relying on other people's opinions/comments to know how you're actually feeling and to figure out that you ACTUALLY have a problem

12-10-2002, 03:51 PM	#16
oui henri Minion of Satan Location: Fuckoffity Land Posts: 5,270	it's funny how at the time you feel as though you have no problem at all, but looking back you see all these red flags.

12-10-2002, 04:21 PM	#17
Lie Socialphobic Location: Goin' out West where they'll appreciate me Posts: 10,001	That sort of world-weariness and paranoia is something completely different from depression that often has the same signs. That's what I'm like now. I'm not depressed. I haven't done my laundry in weeks and my room is a mess but I'm not depressed. I think in this day and age people are sabotaged with more information about depression they can handle, so when they start experiencing that kind of paranoia (which typically leads into or follows a depressive episode but sometimes stands on its own) they immediately assume the worst and as a consequence begin to spiral downward. Sometimes the only cure for it is to just lay low for a while.