Dave Chappelle on the Election & America

BeautifulLoser · 07-15-2004, 01:04 PM

Who are you going to vote for for president this fall?
I’m going to ask you to take a wild guess.

Then we’d guess John Kerry.
I’m leaning that way. Ralph Nader, I don’t know what the fuck he thinks he’s doing. He has slavery reparations on his platform, which makes me think he’s not serious. If he thought he could win, he wouldn’t even say that. After 9/11, I miss what we used to be. And I don’t know if Kerry or anybody else could take us back.

It would take a long time.
It doesn’t have to, though. We’re the greatest nation in the world, by default. We could actually be a great nation if we weren’t such pussies. We debate about whether we should apologize for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners. If you want to be great, acknowledge your mistakes. That’s the example the world needs right now.

http://www.blender.com/articles/article_959.html

BeautifulLoser · 07-15-2004, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sean Casey
"Unfunny Film Spoof
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993)"

FUCK Blender

That's a top 10 movie if there ever was one.

Seriously. This one too:

Half-Baked, the 1997 stoner comedy he cowrote and starred in, was about as funny as the munchies.

sickbadthing · 07-16-2004, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sean Casey
"Unfunny Film Spoof
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993)"

FUCK Blender

That's a top 10 movie if there ever was one.

haha i hated that movie.

half-baked on the other hand... at least i was high when i watched it. it was really hit and miss but the funny parts were great.

lawson · 07-18-2004, 11:31 AM

my girlfriend likes to watch robin rood men in tights when she's on her period.

Ugly · 07-18-2004, 08:38 PM

from EW

"Has Dave Chappelle found religion? The comedian-who on June 15 called a Sacramento crowd "stupid" for chanting his catchphrase "I'm Rick James, bitch"-has apparently converted to Islam(his reps won't comment). "He must expect a lot of sacrifices," says Imam(kind of like a Muslim Priest, Pastor, Rabbi etc) Omar Abu-Namous of NYC's Islamic Cultural Center. Besides nixing prk and alcohol Islam frowns on profanity. I'm Rick James...ma'am"

http://www.tribnet.com/24hour/entert...-8798481c.html

Chappelle lets rude crowd have it

By JIM CARNES, Sacramento Bee

(June 17, 9:04 am PDT) - Dave Chappelle got so angry with the crowd Tuesday night at Sacramento's Memorial Auditorium that the stand-up comic walked off the stage for nearly two minutes. Upon his return, he told the audience, "You people are stupid."

What got the comic so riled up? According to Chappelle, it was audience members who wouldn't "shut up and listen - like you're supposed to."

Chappelle is the creator and star of the No. 1-rated show on Comedy Central. It's that fame that helped the comic sell out the nearly 4,000-seat Memorial Auditorium weeks in advance of the show. And that popularity also caused the frustration for the performer, as audience members continually shouted a character's catchphrase from "Chappelle's Show" - it starts, "I'm Rick James ..." and ends with the b-word.

"The show is ruining my life," Chappelle told the crowd. Besides requiring him to work "20 hours a day," he said, it has made him a "star," which has resulted in the inability of fans to treat him as an individual.

"This (stand-up) is the most important thing I do, and because I'm on TV, you make it hard for me to do it," he said.

"People can't distinguish between what's real and fake. This ain't a TV show. You're not watching Comedy Central. I'm real up here talking."

Shouts continued to interrupt Chappelle's routine until he stopped to give a lecture on "how comedy usually works: I say something. You mull it over and decide whether you want to laugh or not, and then you do or not. Then I say something else, and you think about that.

"It's worked well all across the country, but you people ..."

Performing in Sacramento, the comic said, might turn out "to be a bad idea - like chocolate-covered fish."

Chappelle told the crowd he knew why they liked his sketch-comedy show: "Because it's good. You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong.

"You people are stupid."

Much of Chappelle's act - with its jokes about genitals,and sex talk, tales of strip-club escapades and frequent use of the n-word - is unprintable in a family newspaper. But that's not the best part, anyway. Chappelle is most effective when he ventures into social commentary - race, poverty, the cult of personality.

One of his better rants had to do with children and at what age they might be responsible for their own lives. Elizabeth Smart, the 15-year-old Utah girl who was kidnapped from her home, figured prominently in the commentary. He contrasted her case - she was discovered about nine months after her abduction only a few miles from her home - with that of 7-year-old Erica Pratt, who gnawed through her duct tape bindings to free herself from kidnappers in Philadelphia and was responsible for the arrest of the two men who had taken her. Pratt is African American, and her story received much less attention than did Smart's.

Then Chappelle placed Smart's case in opposition to that of Lionel Tate of Florida, who was convicted of murder in the death of a 6-year-old neighbor. Smart, at 15, was considered a child. But at 14, two years after the crime, Tate was sentenced as an adult to life in prison without parole. (A previously rejected plea bargain was later accepted, and he is now free.)

"When is a 15-year-old a kid and a 12-year-old an adult?" he asked, indicating it might be because one was white and one was not.

Chappelle said race relations are at such a low point in America that, "You can't say anything real when it comes to race. That's why Bill Cosby's in such trouble for saying black folks have got to take responsibility for their own lives.

"I spoke at my high school last week," he said, "and I told them, 'You've got to focus. Stop blaming white people for your problems.' "

He then added, sarcastically, " 'Learn to play basketball, tell jokes or sell crack. That's the only way I've seen people get out.' "

Chappelle's harshest words were addressed to those audience members who worship entertainers and athletes.

"Stop listening to celebrities," he said. "They do what they do for money - that's all. I don't even know why you're listening to me. I've done commercials for both Coke and Pepsi. Truth is, I can't even taste the difference, but Pepsi paid me last, so there it is."

Celebrity worship harms the object of affection as well, Chappelle said. "One day people love you more than they've ever loved anything in the world. And the next, you're in front of a courthouse dancing on top of a car."

In case the audience didn't get the reference to Michael Jackson, he said, "You know why Michael Jackson's had so many surgeries? He wanted you to like him more."

Chappelle, obviously, will not pander to his fans. "You guys are the worst listeners in the country," he told the Sacramento audience. "It's like 'The Silence of the Lambs.' Without the silence."

BeautifulLoser · 07-18-2004, 09:26 PM

God, I fucking hate disrespectful, stupid people. Those are the same assholes that pay $8 to sit behind me and talk through the movie. Good for him for going off.

Debaser · 07-18-2004, 09:59 PM

I was there at that concert in Sacramento!!

People weren't shouting "I'm Rick James,bitch". In fact, the offending phrase was "CHARLIE MURPHAYYYYY!!!!", being shouted for no reason.

At the end of the concert Dave coyly said he was sorry for walking off stage like that.

BeautifulLoser · 07-18-2004, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Debaser

At the end of the concert Dave coyly said he was sorry for walking off stage like that.

He should have said "Fuck You" instead. Fuck apologizing.

Eulogy · 07-19-2004, 11:53 AM

He's not funny.

Sapphire · 07-19-2004, 08:47 PM

Still, he's not stupid.

He goes where people before him haven't. While ironically, that's not neccesarily a new thing, I find some of his routines to be humorous.

Much of what he says though holds truth. I too also enjoyed the way he just blew up at the crowd. At least it shows that for some part he still cares about his routine and that he can still be honest with himself. For even if he is playing off of his popularity (maybe even milking his fifteen minutes?), he's still is his own man in the end on some level.

I don't care who you are though. If you go somewhere to deliver your routine, whether it be music, comedy or politics, and some moron can't shut up and let you do your bit, then they deserve every last nasty word you can throw at them. Simple as that.

He shouldn't have apologized (I wonder how hard his balls must've been squeezed in order for him to do that)...

sleeper · 07-19-2004, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire
Still, he's not stupid.

He goes where people before him haven't. While ironically, that's not neccesarily a new thing, I find some of his routines to be humorous.

Much of what he says though holds truth. I too also enjoyed the way he just blew up at the crowd. At least it shows that for some part he still cares about his routine and that he can still be honest with himself. For even if he is playing off of his popularity (maybe even milking his fifteen minutes?), he's still is his own man in the end on some level.

I don't care who you are though. If you go somewhere to deliver your routine, whether it be music, comedy or politics, and some moron can't shut up and let you do your bit, then they deserve every last nasty word you can throw at them. Simple as that.

He shouldn't have apologized (I wonder how hard his balls must've been squeezed in order for him to do that)...

yes.

im impressed by the way he acted. ive never really cared much for him but this puts things in a different light. he actually deserves his success, and thats rare

Debaser · 07-20-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire

He shouldn't have apologized (I wonder how hard his balls must've been squeezed in order for him to do that)...

no no, it wasn't like that. it was almost like a make up after a fight. he got mad and stormed off stage, when he eventually came back, things got rolling, the rest of the crowd was cheering for him and at the end he was happy and shyly and innocently apologized kinda in a n "aw, shucks" way.

Sapphire · 07-21-2004, 08:26 PM

Oh, o.k.

My misunderstanding. I'm glad he still got to do his bit though. But the words he said still hold truth.

Is there going to be a second season of the Chapelle show?

Corganist · 07-21-2004, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire
Is there going to be a second season of the Chapelle show?

There's already been a second season. Whether or not there'll be a third...who knows? Probably.

Sapphire · 07-23-2004, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corganist

There's already been a second season. Whether or not there'll be a third...who knows? Probably.

Yeah, I look like a tit now.

I'm not claiming I know a lot about the show or anything, I just catch it from time to time on Tuesdays before Jon Stewart.

Pudge · 07-30-2004, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy
He's not funny.

Hands down, you have the worst opinions on everything. From music, movies, comedy, ethics, etc... you really are so clueless. If you have friends, IF, then you should get down on your knees and thank god anyone can take you for more than 5 seconds.

I_was_aborted · 07-30-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pudge

Hands down, you have the worst opinions on everything. From music, movies, comedy, ethics, etc... you really are so clueless. If you have friends, IF, then you should get down on your knees and thank god anyone can take you for more than 5 seconds.

I would have to say Dead has the worst opinions.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 03:00 AM

Yeah, Eulogy's opinions do suck. I was surprised to see someone else mtnion this as I was thinking it reading this thread.

Dave Chapelle IS funny. In fact he's the funniest popular comedian around these days. You are not funny and you have bad taste.

Quiet CD · 08-05-2004, 11:29 AM

he's bringing back the traditions of stand up comedians back to the comical realm... he is contradicting the day to day rhetoric that all other comedians put out, and trying to say something substantial, i love the line especially about playing basketball, standup comedy or selling crack... he's trying to invigorate people instead of being stupidly passive watching comedy central and constantly spouting off catch phrases like "darkness is rising"... I wrote a short essay on him a while back for one of my english teachers, cause she didn't like him, i changed her opinion...

oh yeah and he got signed to do two more seasons with comedy central

07-15-2004, 01:04 PM	#1
BeautifulLoser Socialphobic Location: Middle of somewhere Posts: 13,755	Dave Chappelle on the Election & America Who are you going to vote for for president this fall? I’m going to ask you to take a wild guess. Then we’d guess John Kerry. I’m leaning that way. Ralph Nader, I don’t know what the fuck he thinks he’s doing. He has slavery reparations on his platform, which makes me think he’s not serious. If he thought he could win, he wouldn’t even say that. After 9/11, I miss what we used to be. And I don’t know if Kerry or anybody else could take us back. It would take a long time. It doesn’t have to, though. We’re the greatest nation in the world, by default. We could actually be a great nation if we weren’t such pussies. We debate about whether we should apologize for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners. If you want to be great, acknowledge your mistakes. That’s the example the world needs right now. http://www.blender.com/articles/article_959.html __________________ __________________________________________________ Sean Casey is a stupid wigger!

07-18-2004, 11:31 AM	#4
lawson Apocalyptic Poster Location: raleigh Posts: 4,176	my girlfriend likes to watch robin rood men in tights when she's on her period.

07-18-2004, 08:38 PM	#5
Ugly Immortal Location: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed Posts: 21,249	from EW "Has Dave Chappelle found religion? The comedian-who on June 15 called a Sacramento crowd "stupid" for chanting his catchphrase "I'm Rick James, bitch"-has apparently converted to Islam(his reps won't comment). "He must expect a lot of sacrifices," says Imam(kind of like a Muslim Priest, Pastor, Rabbi etc) Omar Abu-Namous of NYC's Islamic Cultural Center. Besides nixing prk and alcohol Islam frowns on profanity. I'm Rick James...ma'am" http://www.tribnet.com/24hour/entert...-8798481c.html Chappelle lets rude crowd have it By JIM CARNES, Sacramento Bee (June 17, 9:04 am PDT) - Dave Chappelle got so angry with the crowd Tuesday night at Sacramento's Memorial Auditorium that the stand-up comic walked off the stage for nearly two minutes. Upon his return, he told the audience, "You people are stupid." What got the comic so riled up? According to Chappelle, it was audience members who wouldn't "shut up and listen - like you're supposed to." Chappelle is the creator and star of the No. 1-rated show on Comedy Central. It's that fame that helped the comic sell out the nearly 4,000-seat Memorial Auditorium weeks in advance of the show. And that popularity also caused the frustration for the performer, as audience members continually shouted a character's catchphrase from "Chappelle's Show" - it starts, "I'm Rick James ..." and ends with the b-word. "The show is ruining my life," Chappelle told the crowd. Besides requiring him to work "20 hours a day," he said, it has made him a "star," which has resulted in the inability of fans to treat him as an individual. "This (stand-up) is the most important thing I do, and because I'm on TV, you make it hard for me to do it," he said. "People can't distinguish between what's real and fake. This ain't a TV show. You're not watching Comedy Central. I'm real up here talking." Shouts continued to interrupt Chappelle's routine until he stopped to give a lecture on "how comedy usually works: I say something. You mull it over and decide whether you want to laugh or not, and then you do or not. Then I say something else, and you think about that. "It's worked well all across the country, but you people ..." Performing in Sacramento, the comic said, might turn out "to be a bad idea - like chocolate-covered fish." Chappelle told the crowd he knew why they liked his sketch-comedy show: "Because it's good. You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong. "You people are stupid." Much of Chappelle's act - with its jokes about genitals,and sex talk, tales of strip-club escapades and frequent use of the n-word - is unprintable in a family newspaper. But that's not the best part, anyway. Chappelle is most effective when he ventures into social commentary - race, poverty, the cult of personality. One of his better rants had to do with children and at what age they might be responsible for their own lives. Elizabeth Smart, the 15-year-old Utah girl who was kidnapped from her home, figured prominently in the commentary. He contrasted her case - she was discovered about nine months after her abduction only a few miles from her home - with that of 7-year-old Erica Pratt, who gnawed through her duct tape bindings to free herself from kidnappers in Philadelphia and was responsible for the arrest of the two men who had taken her. Pratt is African American, and her story received much less attention than did Smart's. Then Chappelle placed Smart's case in opposition to that of Lionel Tate of Florida, who was convicted of murder in the death of a 6-year-old neighbor. Smart, at 15, was considered a child. But at 14, two years after the crime, Tate was sentenced as an adult to life in prison without parole. (A previously rejected plea bargain was later accepted, and he is now free.) "When is a 15-year-old a kid and a 12-year-old an adult?" he asked, indicating it might be because one was white and one was not. Chappelle said race relations are at such a low point in America that, "You can't say anything real when it comes to race. That's why Bill Cosby's in such trouble for saying black folks have got to take responsibility for their own lives. "I spoke at my high school last week," he said, "and I told them, 'You've got to focus. Stop blaming white people for your problems.' " He then added, sarcastically, " 'Learn to play basketball, tell jokes or sell crack. That's the only way I've seen people get out.' " Chappelle's harshest words were addressed to those audience members who worship entertainers and athletes. "Stop listening to celebrities," he said. "They do what they do for money - that's all. I don't even know why you're listening to me. I've done commercials for both Coke and Pepsi. Truth is, I can't even taste the difference, but Pepsi paid me last, so there it is." Celebrity worship harms the object of affection as well, Chappelle said. "One day people love you more than they've ever loved anything in the world. And the next, you're in front of a courthouse dancing on top of a car." In case the audience didn't get the reference to Michael Jackson, he said, "You know why Michael Jackson's had so many surgeries? He wanted you to like him more." Chappelle, obviously, will not pander to his fans. "You guys are the worst listeners in the country," he told the Sacramento audience. "It's like 'The Silence of the Lambs.' Without the silence."

07-18-2004, 09:26 PM	#6
BeautifulLoser Socialphobic Location: Middle of somewhere Posts: 13,755	God, I fucking hate disrespectful, stupid people. Those are the same assholes that pay $8 to sit behind me and talk through the movie. Good for him for going off.

07-18-2004, 09:59 PM	#7
Debaser ghost Location: @SactoMacto Posts: 12,201	I was there at that concert in Sacramento!! People weren't shouting "I'm Rick James,bitch". In fact, the offending phrase was "CHARLIE MURPHAYYYYY!!!!", being shouted for no reason. At the end of the concert Dave coyly said he was sorry for walking off stage like that.

07-19-2004, 11:53 AM	#9
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	He's not funny.

07-19-2004, 08:47 PM	#10
Sapphire Apocalyptic Poster Location: Wo ist JONES!?! Posts: 4,654	Still, he's not stupid. He goes where people before him haven't. While ironically, that's not neccesarily a new thing, I find some of his routines to be humorous. Much of what he says though holds truth. I too also enjoyed the way he just blew up at the crowd. At least it shows that for some part he still cares about his routine and that he can still be honest with himself. For even if he is playing off of his popularity (maybe even milking his fifteen minutes?), he's still is his own man in the end on some level. I don't care who you are though. If you go somewhere to deliver your routine, whether it be music, comedy or politics, and some moron can't shut up and let you do your bit, then they deserve every last nasty word you can throw at them. Simple as that. He shouldn't have apologized (I wonder how hard his balls must've been squeezed in order for him to do that)...

07-21-2004, 08:26 PM	#13
Sapphire Apocalyptic Poster Location: Wo ist JONES!?! Posts: 4,654	Oh, o.k. My misunderstanding. I'm glad he still got to do his bit though. But the words he said still hold truth. Is there going to be a second season of the Chapelle show?

08-03-2004, 03:00 AM	#18
The Light Apocalyptic Poster Location: turn my headphones up man turn them shits up!!! Posts: 3,892	Yeah, Eulogy's opinions do suck. I was surprised to see someone else mtnion this as I was thinking it reading this thread. Dave Chapelle IS funny. In fact he's the funniest popular comedian around these days. You are not funny and you have bad taste.

08-05-2004, 11:29 AM	#19
Quiet CD Apocalyptic Poster Location: wherever you aren't Posts: 3,241	he's bringing back the traditions of stand up comedians back to the comical realm... he is contradicting the day to day rhetoric that all other comedians put out, and trying to say something substantial, i love the line especially about playing basketball, standup comedy or selling crack... he's trying to invigorate people instead of being stupidly passive watching comedy central and constantly spouting off catch phrases like "darkness is rising"... I wrote a short essay on him a while back for one of my english teachers, cause she didn't like him, i changed her opinion... oh yeah and he got signed to do two more seasons with comedy central