Why do so many people like Linkin Park?

[Gish08]

Didn't their latest album hit #1 in like 16 countries? I find this depressing.

I don't understand... and this isn't even because I'm mad that the Pumpkins don't sell that many records anymore, because I know some smartass will suggest that here.

I'd say it's just a bunch of stupid 15 year olds eating up the albums, but 10 years ago, 15 year olds were listening to Linkin Park, who are now 25...

[Shapan]

the 15 year olds that listened to linkin park 10 years ago probably stopped after a year.

no one likes this band once they listen to other music, record sales just mean a bunch of kids that don't know better yet are buying their music.

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by Shapan

the 15 year olds that listened to linkin park 10 years ago probably stopped after a year.

no one likes this band once they listen to other music, record sales just mean a bunch of kids that don't know better yet are buying their music.

No, you'd be surprised how many people well into their 20's still enjoy their music

[Chuck=Zero]

Originally Posted by Gish08

No, you'd be surprised how many people well into their 20's still enjoy their music

One's right here, well their first two albums (Hybrid Theory, Meteora) at least. I started to get turned off by 'em when they did that album remixing with Jay-Z, and I didn't like the fact that they essentially turned into a conventional rock band, mostly using just guitars and drums on the latest album, Minutes to Midnight. Shadow of the Day is the only track I really like from it, the rest of the album doesn't do anything for me partly because they don't have that electronic element they had on previous albums.

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by Chuck=Zero

One's right here, well their first two albums (Hybrid Theory, Meteora) at least. I started to get turned off by 'em when they did that album remixing with Jay-Z, and I didn't like the fact that they essentially turned into a conventional rock band, mostly using just guitars and drums on the latest album, Minutes to Midnight. Shadow of the Day is the only track I really like from it, the rest of the album doesn't do anything for me partly because they don't have that electronic element they had on previous albums.

Everything they've done has always sucked. They have absolutely no talent and there's way better bands that write way better "I pity myself" songs.

noyen: Somehow I think you are joking

[redbull]

Originally Posted by Gish08

Everything they've done has always sucked. They have absolutely no talent and there's way better bands that write way better "I pity myself" songs.

Originally Posted by redbull

taste is subjective.

you're just as bad as isle.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Chuck=Zero

I started to get turned off by 'em when they did that album remixing with Jay-Z,

Yeah Jay-Z pissed me off when he stooped to their level.

[redbull]

taste is subjective. /thread.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by redbull

taste is subjective. /thread.

yes it is, but that way lies the Dan Brown is better than Shakespeare if I say so, my kid paints better than Picasso madness. it IS possible to forge an empirical and objective criteria for judging - and therefore comparing - artistic worth.

And on that note Linkin Park fucking suck.

[celluloid_love]

Originally Posted by mojo

it IS possible to forge an empirical and objective criteria for judging - and therefore comparing - artistic worth.

do people actually believe this

[redbull]

Originally Posted by celluloid_love

do people actually believe this

seriously

(gish08 i want to know what you think of Mars)

[Deadeyes]

Originally Posted by mojo

it IS possible to forge an empirical and objective criteria for judging - and therefore comparing - artistic worth.

Yeah, for yourself. Some call it musical taste/preference. And it's not some action that requires tallying out a list of pos and neg, for most.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by Deadeyes

Yeah, for yourself. Some call it musical taste/preference. And it's not some action that requires tallying out a list of pos and neg, for most.

do you really think it's just a matter of taste/preference to claim that mozart was more talented than madonna?

[Caine Walker]

is this really a serious thread about linkin park?

[Deadeyes]

Originally Posted by mojo

do you really think it's just a matter of taste/preference to claim that mozart was more talented than madonna?

That was not your original point, you said:

it IS possible to forge an empirical and objective criteria for judging - and therefore comparing - artistic worth.

Which basically means that you can classify artists universally and put them on some kind of scale from everyones perspective, well you can't. I mean artistic worth? This is pretentious nonsense, just because someone has more musical talent does not make them better, there is all kinds of factors that affect different people to appreciate different art. I might appreciate something which has no "worth" to other people, yet there is a "worth" for me, comprende?

Worth is seriously a horrible word to use with art.

[noyen]

they express everything i go through. day in. day out. it's a soundtrack to my life.

[???]

my only real contention with linkin park is the fact that they were basically put together by a record company and that they've become very formulaic. but let's be straight here- Hybrid Theory is a great record. the guitar riffs are cool, the lyrics aren't really bad at all (maybe a little too self-reflective and overly serious but never cheesy imo) and all the song structures and arrangements and electronicky parts totally check out. "rap-metal" really should be a hated genre by definition but LP have a great sound and for what its worth i think they sortof look like a good unit. plus i like their vaguely sci-fi/anime influence. hybrid theory was a really defining record at the turn of the millenium and while i haven't listened to it in years, if i'm out shopping or something and somebody's playing it i can totally get into it.

also they should have kept their original name Xero

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by ???

the lyrics aren't really bad at all (maybe a little too self-reflective and overly serious but never cheesy imo)

SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU!!!!
I'M ABOUT TO BREAK!

[Rockin' Cherub]

Originally Posted by ???

"rap-metal" really should be a hated genre by definition

why

the first two korn albums are good. at least in comparison to hybrid theory.

[Luke de Spa]

Originally Posted by ???

my only real contention with linkin park is the fact that they were basically put together by a record company and that they've become very formulaic. but let's be straight here- Hybrid Theory is a great record. the guitar riffs are cool, the lyrics aren't really bad at all (maybe a little too self-reflective and overly serious but never cheesy imo) and all the song structures and arrangements and electronicky parts totally check out. "rap-metal" really should be a hated genre by definition but LP have a great sound and for what its worth i think they sortof look like a good unit. plus i like their vaguely sci-fi/anime influence. hybrid theory was a really defining record at the turn of the millenium and while i haven't listened to it in years, if i'm out shopping or something and somebody's playing it i can totally get into it.

also they should have kept their original name Xero

you know what happens when you get too close to the edge? no you don't fall off, idiot

[celluloid_love]

the people are shit, that's how i feel

[Gish08]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIwWqYSbzGA

Seriously how can people enjoy this shit.

[AlaskanBastard]

I remember I was bored one day and read a magazine article interviewing there guitarist about there latest album. I loved when the interviewer asked him about how a lot of their songs sound similar and what they did about that for the new album. The guitarist responded that he tried playing with different guitars and amps.

The problem ain't the equipment, it's cause you suck.

[???]

Originally Posted by AlaskanBastard

I remember I was bored one day and read a magazine article interviewing there guitarist about there latest album. I loved when the interviewer asked him about how a lot of their songs sound similar and what they did about that for the new album. The guitarist responded that he tried playing with different guitars and amps.

The problem ain't the equipment, it's cause you suck.

haha i think i read the same interview. the guitarist was a boring douchebag. what was worse though was the magazine asking him to smash a guitar for the cover shoot (he was too pussy to do it cause he thought he'd hurt his wrist, so they gave him a pre-broken one) and when they asked him why he doesn't play any solos or shred, and he replied by making the unfunniest joke ever about how he was working on a triple-cd album of pure shred guitar. L-O-L.

[Catherine Wheel]

I always thought Chester Bennington had a great singing voice and would be much better off putting out Depeche Mode type stuff. His voice seems more suitable for soft electronic type music.

[Gish08]

I saw a video of their drummer unable to play the most simplistic of stuff. Bragging about merging what would typically be difficult parts (for him) together using software. Basically he can't play the transition in one take so he stops in between the parts, then puts them next to each other in protools or whatever. The beat was the most simplistic thing ever.

[redbull]

one time i listened to an album by Mars and they couldn't play their instruments

[Rockin' Cherub]

Originally Posted by redbull

one time i listened to an album by Mars and they couldn't play their instruments

they had an awesome drummer dude

helen fordsdale

[redbull]

Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

they had an awesome drummer dude

helen fordsdale

that ism y favorite mars song

[tcm]

my fave.