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Old 08-08-2018, 12:15 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by KissesandNoise View Post
Yeah, what a fucking shame. That was the best evolution/transition of the SP sound that could have happened. It was stripped down to a certain extent, yet still bombastic and grandiose. That "indie thing" was on the rise and blowing up with My Morning Jacket, The Killers, Modest Mouse getting huge, The Strokes, Bloc Party, Arcade Fire etc, etc. Zwan was sort of SP reformed to fit in that era with 3 other musicians with tons of street cred and it got pissed away. I always thought that SP should have ended after the final Metro Show and ZWAN should have been a NIN or QOTSA that could be a revolving door if it needed to be. Imagine if all of Billy's experimentation and line-up changes could have been under ZWAN (or if ZWAN could have stayed together) and the SP name was not revived until this tour. Way more impact.
Billy couldn't get out of his own way. It could've been this and was poised to be when it was a four piece, but then he decided he'd move the asian to guitar and hire a girl bassist to try to recapture the Pumpkins aesthetic. Then he picked some of the worst songs of the band's repertoire and put them on an album that sounded like shit instead of songs the fans actually wanted to hear.

 
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