mtv & co might have been desperate for an alternative to their main rotation of christina, limp bizkit, etc. & overcompensated a bit, but i remember 'em mostly as one group out of the whole retro-ish hives, vines, rooney, etc. round of bands that i found worth listening to. i still think they hold up on a song-by-song (found the albums hard to get through) basis. You Only Live Once is perfect
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