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Old 04-26-2002, 11:56 AM   #38
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Originally posted by GhostChild:
OK...now I'm actually reading this thread more...you people...get your shit straight.

Whoever made the point of them selling out those early 2000 shows fast...is dumb. Those are small venues. Pearl Jam could sell out a Ampitheatre in 2000 in that time. SP couldnt even sell out venues like the Berkeley Community Theatre, in which Tool sold it out last year in like a min. SP wasn't even selling out arenas in 96. After Jimmy got the boot, many many people returned there tickets. Friends who live here in Sacramento told me the Arco show was empty...in which Incubus sold the whole place out last week.

As for ticket cost...what does that really matter? It just means they are nice guys. When you are big...thats when you know you can charge 60 bucks for a ticket and still sell the show out. Fucking Dave Matthews charges like 60 bucks a ticket, and they can sell out soilder field. If you wanna talk about a band that can sell out a show anywhere in the US, thats the one. The Pumpkins fucked themselves in 96 before they even got the chance to get huge.

OK...and the whole small club thing, how many other bands have done that in the past, or still do it? Shit Blink 182 did a small club tour in 2000, and I would consider them bigger than SP ever was.

What it all comes down to is album sales and tours...and who did the most sales and biggest shows. The Chili Peppers toured on Californication for like 3 years or something? They did a arena tour in 1999 and sold all the shows out. Then in 2000 they did a ampitheatre tour, and sold em all out. And if you wanna talk album sales, Linkon Park Park has sold more albums already than SD ever did. I can name many band thats have

Creed - Human Clay 5 mil in 21 weeks *wow*
Creed - first LP 10 mil
Kid Rock - Devil Without... 10 mil
Sublime - 5 mil
Linkin Park 7 mil
U2 - new one 3 mil
Staind - Break the Cycle 4 mil

and even disturted has sold 2 mil, SOAD already is at 2 mil. Dave Matthews sells almost 7 mil or so of every one. And then...

Blink 182
Eneima of the State - 5 mil

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Blood Sugar Sex Magic 7 mil
Californication 4 mil

Pearl Jam
Ten - 11 mil
Viatology 5 mil
Vs. 7 mil

oh...and Pearl Jam did that wihtout music videos...Jeremy was their last music video before Do the Evolution...put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I think I have made a point of album sales here.

[This message has been edited by GhostChild (edited 04-23-2002).]

You cant really compare SP to bands with different types of music. linkin park are complete sellouts and if you target your music to little girls to make them think they are being "on the edge" then of course you will sell a lot of seats. SP could have been HUGE if they would have sold out, but the music quality would have gone to hell and most of their original fan base would leave too. i mean, could you really stand listening to billy sing a shallow song like "One Step Closer"?