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Originally Posted by buzzard
Historical claim or not, a decline or the onset of decay would only require that the nation be beyond its peak. A rough earlier period is kind of par for the course when looking at any nation over the period you're now discussing because human society in general has come a long way in the last two centuries. This doesn't therefore mean America cannot reasonably be described as decaying or in decline until it begins forcing minorities to work the fields for food and bedding again.
To make either that or your handy comparisons to countries that have always been worse off than America your prerequisite in this for acknowledging a downward shift would be incredibly disingenuous. It'd be about as bad as shifting the burden of proof after being the one to seek to limit what words we can use to describe the state of affairs, though not as bad as doing both things while effectively waving off current events as nothings in the process.
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So America's peak was five years ago and that is widely enough agreed upon that a claim that America is in decay is obviously correct and it's disingenuous to look at larger timeframes? I really do not understand what is happening itt.