More studio material coming (album lovers fucked)!!!

davin · 03-19-2008, 03:02 PM

http://www.spinner.com/2008/03/19/sm...eir-next-move/

Smashing Pumpkins Entering the Studio to Plot Their Next Move
Posted Mar 19th 2008 3:30PM by John D. Luerssen
Filed under: News, Exclusive

The Smashing Pumpkins will begin recording new material later this spring, according to drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, but fans looking for a proper follow-up album to last year's 'Zeitgeist' may be out of luck.

"It's something we're going to get to on May 1st," Chamberlin tells Spinner. "We just bought a building, and my wife and I are in the process of moving back to Chicago. Billy [Corgan] and I are going to start working every day like we used to.

"But I don't think we will make records again," the drummer explains, pointing out that the band's contractual commitment to Reprise Records is finished. "I look at it like the old business model is dead and the music business doesn't know how to move forward. We want to keep things vital and keep things viable and get our music across while remaining relevant. Music has in many ways just become an advertisement for your tour.

"I think what we'll do is start releasing songs," Chamberlin continues. "The record or CD format places too many limitations on your piece of art. People just don't buy records anymore. Anyone under the age of 24 just buys songs. It's just in our best interest to release blocks of songs. And I think what we'll do – not to let the cat out of the bag too much – is to create the framework where we can release a number of songs and maybe create a title. We can gather three or four songs, but it will all flow up to a larger body of work. But to call it record in the traditional sense would be anachronistic."

As for the material, the recently released stripped-down EP 'American Gothic' "is not an indication of the direction," Chamberlin says. "That was more of an experiment that Billy and I wanted to do. We wanted to see what it would sound like if we gave ourselves four days to record a song, like in the old days. And I think what we learned from that experience we'll bring to the new material.

"But the direction we're going in is grander, as opposed to the stripped-down sound we just did," Chamberlin continues. "I want it to be full tilt. I'd like to go bigger. And I think the next time the Pumpkins tour, you'll see a big stage presence with eight to ten people as opposed to just five."

Caine Walker · 03-19-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

"I want it to be full tilt. I'd like to go bigger. And I think the next time the Pumpkins tour, you'll see a big stage presence with eight to ten people as opposed to just five."[/color]

NICE.

Eulogy · 03-19-2008, 03:05 PM

fucking shit, they had better keep making albums.

SOME OF US STILL LIKE ALBUMS. FUCK.

SlingeroGuitaro · 03-19-2008, 03:06 PM

davin for the win

cool stuff here

wHATcOLOR · 03-19-2008, 03:07 PM

8 to 10? yikes

davin · 03-19-2008, 03:08 PM

yea, i like albums too. especially cohesive ones that "take you on a journey".

but later this spring? what about chicago and more north american dates?

SlingeroGuitaro · 03-19-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wHATcOLOR

8 to 10? yikes

its like if the eagles went on an adore tour

Spaldz · 03-19-2008, 03:11 PM

wtf I want physical albums damnit, not some crappy itunes download.

Caine Walker · 03-19-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

yea, i like albums too. especially cohesive ones that "take you on a journey".

but later this spring? what about chicago and more north american dates?

corgan has forsaken chicago. he'll practive here, his drummer will move here, and they'll build a recording studio here.

but they won't play here.

WHAT

THE

FUCK??????

:mAD:

Banana · 03-19-2008, 03:16 PM

That last paragraph is very interesting. I'm guessing we'll get some violin action or something going. Also I like the record format and am non too pleased to hear that it's done for with the Smashing Pumpkins.

davin · 03-19-2008, 03:18 PM

interesting too, how he says "Billy [Corgan] and I are going to start working every day like we used to.". So sounds like the BC[lightningbolt]JC show will continue. Thats cool with me, but I hope for someone other than RTB in the studio for a change of pass. Something that can represent the live sound better, vs all the layering and shit (though i don't have the problem with the latter either).

New Art Rioter · 03-19-2008, 03:23 PM

All very cool, but I don't want a bunch of files sitting on my computer. I hope they at least compile these into an LP release or something. It's a shame if they forsake the album format, as most Pumpkins LPs flow so well. Mellon Collie is great conceptually, it'll be a shame if they don't want to present their work as a cohesive whole.

wHATcOLOR · 03-19-2008, 03:25 PM

its kind of an interesting quote about people under 24, and probably very true. what percent of people who know about/care about/would buy music from the band are under 24 i wonder

T&T · 03-19-2008, 03:26 PM

nice to see their spirits are high
no matter what comes out of it!

glad they're moving away from the things they feel restricted by
the future looks colorful.

HAHA chicago! HHAHA
http://www.seomoz.org/images/upload/...lson_haha2.jpg

Rickpat12 · 03-19-2008, 03:28 PM

Great find Davin! This sounds cool but 8-10 people on stage???? Guess I'll have to see/hear it.

Floppy Nono · 03-19-2008, 03:28 PM

8-10 people?? wtf! I JUST learned the names of these three! jk

but it seriously does suck if he just makes it with jimmy because, honestly, most of the cool parts ive been hearing from these live shows and the directions they've taken the songs come from jeff. You can hear it in that shaker song, where they're trying to make something atmospheric. you can hear jeffs cool tone floating like the breeze and then billy comes in with the squealing pseudo-metal sound and it's weird. If anything, billy needs to let jeff program his tones.

wHATcOLOR · 03-19-2008, 03:29 PM

i hope at least 2 or 3 of the 8 to 10 people are mike garson

dude is so boss

You Said · 03-19-2008, 03:30 PM

SP never does what they say they are going to do.

it'll be a double album.

You Said · 03-19-2008, 03:31 PM

"we just couldn't stop the band was on a roll, we had to make this album."

T&T · 03-19-2008, 03:33 PM

it'll be a double triple album

New Art Rioter · 03-19-2008, 03:33 PM

Also, doesn't saying 8-10 people next time they tour sort of contradict the era show thing?

dustrock · 03-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

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"I think what we'll do is start releasing songs," Chamberlin continues. "The record or CD format places too many limitations on your piece of art. People just don't buy records anymore. Anyone under the age of 24 just buys songs. It's just in our best interest to release blocks of songs. And I think what we'll do – not to let the cat out of the bag too much – is to create the framework where we can release a number of songs and maybe create a title. We can gather three or four songs, but it will all flow up to a larger body of work. But to call it record in the traditional sense would be anachronistic."

"It will all flow up to a larger body of work". I think he's hinting they'll eventually release an album. This really ties into that UK radio interview where they said they'll record stuff quickly, put it out there, tour the songs, then re-record them if necessary.

I have to admit that I'm mostly past the album experience at this point, but then I don't have as much time as I used to sit and enjoy an album.

brillo998 · 03-19-2008, 03:39 PM

great. more shitty songs that we will all hate/laugh at.

Caine Walker · 03-19-2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

Also, doesn't saying 8-10 people next time they tour sort of contradict the era show thing?

pipe dream, yo.

this was never going to happen anyway. i mean, seriously.

Gossamer · 03-19-2008, 03:46 PM

Taking all of this with a grain of salt.

xezton · 03-19-2008, 03:47 PM

I honestly don't want them to "trickle out songs". I like waiting for a big surprise and then getting something better than I expected (sans Zeitgeist).

I just don't get as excited when I get to buy a whopping four songs that aren't interconnected and I can finish listening to on my car ride home from work.

Plus I don't buy music online, never have. If there is no physical product, then I don't buy it. So that's too bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy

Music has in many ways just become an advertisement for your tour.

I didn't think this is a recent thing. I thought Music has ALWAYS been an advertisement for tours. You think people come to shows because your poster is cool?

I have nothing to complain about, though. If they continue to pump out music I'll be happy as long as I still enjoy it.

neopryn · 03-19-2008, 03:50 PM

Pretty stupid if you ask me. Then again, I don't believe anything Billy or Jimmy say anymore.

dustrock · 03-19-2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neopryn

Pretty stupid if you ask me. Then again, I don't believe anything Billy or Jimmy say anymore.

Yeah, many grains of salt, obv.

If Billy considers American Gothic, the Zeitgeist b-sides and Superchrist all to be part of the "Zeitgeist" era, then I kinda see where they're going with this.

T&T · 03-19-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xezton

I didn't think this is a recent thing. I thought Music has ALWAYS been an advertisement for tours.

some people tour to promote the album
others release an album to promote the tour

while others tour to tour and release albums to release albums

something like that.

Mablak · 03-19-2008, 03:59 PM

I'd find just releasing blocks of songs at a time kind of disappointing. Even though albums are such a standard way of releasing songs, I've never had a problem with the album format, and sometimes the mere arrangement of songs allows you to better enjoy them. Maybe this will lead to more polished individual songs, I don't know.

But I think the assessment that people only buy individual songs is pretty false, everyone I know sticks to buying albums.

03-19-2008, 03:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
davin Fall In Hate With Me Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 10,607	More studio material coming (album lovers fucked)!!! http://www.spinner.com/2008/03/19/sm...eir-next-move/ Smashing Pumpkins Entering the Studio to Plot Their Next Move Posted Mar 19th 2008 3:30PM by John D. Luerssen Filed under: News, Exclusive The Smashing Pumpkins will begin recording new material later this spring, according to drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, but fans looking for a proper follow-up album to last year's 'Zeitgeist' may be out of luck. "It's something we're going to get to on May 1st," Chamberlin tells Spinner. "We just bought a building, and my wife and I are in the process of moving back to Chicago. Billy [Corgan] and I are going to start working every day like we used to. "But I don't think we will make records again," the drummer explains, pointing out that the band's contractual commitment to Reprise Records is finished. "I look at it like the old business model is dead and the music business doesn't know how to move forward. We want to keep things vital and keep things viable and get our music across while remaining relevant. Music has in many ways just become an advertisement for your tour. "I think what we'll do is start releasing songs," Chamberlin continues. "The record or CD format places too many limitations on your piece of art. People just don't buy records anymore. Anyone under the age of 24 just buys songs. It's just in our best interest to release blocks of songs. And I think what we'll do – not to let the cat out of the bag too much – is to create the framework where we can release a number of songs and maybe create a title. We can gather three or four songs, but it will all flow up to a larger body of work. But to call it record in the traditional sense would be anachronistic." As for the material, the recently released stripped-down EP 'American Gothic' "is not an indication of the direction," Chamberlin says. "That was more of an experiment that Billy and I wanted to do. We wanted to see what it would sound like if we gave ourselves four days to record a song, like in the old days. And I think what we learned from that experience we'll bring to the new material. "But the direction we're going in is grander, as opposed to the stripped-down sound we just did," Chamberlin continues. "I want it to be full tilt. I'd like to go bigger. And I think the next time the Pumpkins tour, you'll see a big stage presence with eight to ten people as opposed to just five."

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03-19-2008, 03:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Eulogy huh Posts: 38,650	fucking shit, they had better keep making albums. SOME OF US STILL LIKE ALBUMS. FUCK.

03-19-2008, 03:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
SlingeroGuitaro Starbucks addicted minion Location: Billy Corgan Kazoo Revue Posts: 4,783	davin for the win cool stuff here

03-19-2008, 03:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: whip that's for stealing !! whip And that's for getting blood on my whip !!! \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 43,143	8 to 10? yikes

03-19-2008, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
davin Fall In Hate With Me Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 10,607	yea, i like albums too. especially cohesive ones that "take you on a journey". but later this spring? what about chicago and more north american dates?

03-19-2008, 03:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spaldz Record every show Posts: 3,062	wtf I want physical albums damnit, not some crappy itunes download.

03-19-2008, 03:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Banana 4 THE MARE Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,112	That last paragraph is very interesting. I'm guessing we'll get some violin action or something going. Also I like the record format and am non too pleased to hear that it's done for with the Smashing Pumpkins.

03-19-2008, 03:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
davin Fall In Hate With Me Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 10,607	interesting too, how he says "Billy [Corgan] and I are going to start working every day like we used to.". So sounds like the BC[lightningbolt]JC show will continue. Thats cool with me, but I hope for someone other than RTB in the studio for a change of pass. Something that can represent the live sound better, vs all the layering and shit (though i don't have the problem with the latter either).

03-19-2008, 03:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
New Art Rioter Ownz Location: Northampton UK Posts: 943	All very cool, but I don't want a bunch of files sitting on my computer. I hope they at least compile these into an LP release or something. It's a shame if they forsake the album format, as most Pumpkins LPs flow so well. Mellon Collie is great conceptually, it'll be a shame if they don't want to present their work as a cohesive whole.

03-19-2008, 03:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: whip that's for stealing !! whip And that's for getting blood on my whip !!! \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 43,143	its kind of an interesting quote about people under 24, and probably very true. what percent of people who know about/care about/would buy music from the band are under 24 i wonder

03-19-2008, 03:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
T&T Minion of Satan Location: montreal Posts: 5,238	nice to see their spirits are high no matter what comes out of it! glad they're moving away from the things they feel restricted by the future looks colorful. HAHA chicago! HHAHA http://www.seomoz.org/images/upload/...lson_haha2.jpg

03-19-2008, 03:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rickpat12 Apocalyptic Poster Location: GUITAR PICK? Posts: 3,164	Great find Davin! This sounds cool but 8-10 people on stage???? Guess I'll have to see/hear it.

03-19-2008, 03:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Floppy Nono Socialphobic Location: sandybellenissan: 10/19/2008 NEVER FORGET Posts: 12,447	8-10 people?? wtf! I JUST learned the names of these three! jk but it seriously does suck if he just makes it with jimmy because, honestly, most of the cool parts ive been hearing from these live shows and the directions they've taken the songs come from jeff. You can hear it in that shaker song, where they're trying to make something atmospheric. you can hear jeffs cool tone floating like the breeze and then billy comes in with the squealing pseudo-metal sound and it's weird. If anything, billy needs to let jeff program his tones.

03-19-2008, 03:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: whip that's for stealing !! whip And that's for getting blood on my whip !!! \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 43,143	i hope at least 2 or 3 of the 8 to 10 people are mike garson dude is so boss

03-19-2008, 03:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
You Said Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,661	SP never does what they say they are going to do. it'll be a double album.

03-19-2008, 03:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
You Said Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,661	"we just couldn't stop the band was on a roll, we had to make this album."

03-19-2008, 03:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
T&T Minion of Satan Location: montreal Posts: 5,238	it'll be a double triple album

03-19-2008, 03:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
New Art Rioter Ownz Location: Northampton UK Posts: 943	Also, doesn't saying 8-10 people next time they tour sort of contradict the era show thing?

03-19-2008, 03:39 PM	#23 (permalink)
brillo998 Ownz Location: columbus Posts: 842	great. more shitty songs that we will all hate/laugh at.

03-19-2008, 03:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Gossamer Apocalyptic Poster Location: We got it like three quarters of the way in whilst on vacation last week. Minor success. Unfortunately she is leaving for England in a couple of days. Posts: 3,270	Taking all of this with a grain of salt.

03-19-2008, 03:50 PM	#27 (permalink)
neopryn let's see your penis! Location: i had a few beers, but i'm cool to drive Posts: 31,509	Pretty stupid if you ask me. Then again, I don't believe anything Billy or Jimmy say anymore.

03-19-2008, 03:59 PM	#30 (permalink)
Mablak Minion of Satan Location: Well, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg, with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg! Posts: 6,132	I'd find just releasing blocks of songs at a time kind of disappointing. Even though albums are such a standard way of releasing songs, I've never had a problem with the album format, and sometimes the mere arrangement of songs allows you to better enjoy them. Maybe this will lead to more polished individual songs, I don't know. But I think the assessment that people only buy individual songs is pretty false, everyone I know sticks to buying albums.