JCC @ Melkweg, Amsterdam, NL small interesting interview with JC!!!

Endless Whining · 07:56 PM

OK
Where to start?
Well, first JCC of course.
Rather last-minute a show was added before JCC was to play at the Carling Weekend and Pukkelpop Festivals (UK and Belgium). Kind of a warm-up/rehearsel show, not in the least part because JCC is featuring a new guitarist since Sean has moved on. His name is: Gannin Arnold and trust me, the dude can fokken play!!!
Venue: Melkweg, Oude Zaal (Old Hall), Amsterdam, NL
Attendance: around 50 (fifty) people
First European show for JCC ever!!!
Setlist:
Streetcrawler
Life Begins Again
PSA
Newer Waves
Time Shift
Love is Real
Cranes
Lokicat
Owed to Daryl
Great be it rather short show of JCC. Amazing drumming of course, but also very amazing playing by both Gannin and Billy Mohler. Truely stunning performances, very different versions from time to time. Time Shift and Owed showed most variations when compared to the album. Amazing jams this concert!!! High spirits in the band too!!!

Before the show:
Walked in and first thing: JC walks up to me and my girlfriend, shakes hands, knows me from previous encounters and we have a very brief chat. He's off the hotel to fresh up but we'll talk after the show JC says.

During the show:
JCC doesn't bother with the small audience and seem to like the intimate atmosphere. They play "what they know" which seems rather obious since Gannin was only recently added to JCC. Anyway, the band was on full blast. Prepare yourself at the festivals, these dudes really put on a show of "honest music, for honest people" (JCs words on stage).

After the show:
JC is the nicest man in rock: he poses for pix and signs gladly. The other guys join in.
When the frenzy lies down I sit down next to JC and we start to chat. Now the very interesting stuff comes up! Please listen/read carefully, the dude always opens up to me you know...

1) September will mark the recording of the next JCC album. Ten days it took to record LBA, this one will take the same time, or shorter or as long as they have money. The sound may be a little more open and pop... Touring the record (LBA) is the greatest thing in the world; JC just loves to play live he says.
2) Releasedate for the next JCC album: before the new Pumpkins record.
3) Jumping on this info I ask him about the Pumpkins:
the ad's in the newspapers even surprised JC. BC and JC have been talking about working together for ages, but this open approach and invitation was a little bit new to him. Then again: in stead of putting TSP on hold for a while they decided during TSP to break up and do different things (Zwan, solo) to branch out and expierence it all from a different angle. Corgan has his stuff, JC his own, Corgan is into progressive stuff JCs doing, JC sees where BC is going and JC would love to play the old songs again. When asked which songs, he clearly tosses me a bright smile when I mention songs like Geek USA.
4) The line up of the NEW TSP? Well, JC says they'd like the orignal four to get together again. JC is still in touch with James but hasn't spoken to him about the Pumpkins reforming. He however doesn't see a problem with James re-unting with the band. "Why not? It's not like the things people blow up right now in the media and all haven't been said in the studio, in hotels on tour, on stage or whatever? James knows of the issues but it's nothing that cannot be overcome I think."
5) D'arcy? "Well, she's the million dollar question. I haven't spoken to her since she left the band in 1999, nor has Billy. Nobody knows what she's been up to and if she's even capable of playing with us again." (Insert your own implications here)
5) Timeframe for TSP? Early 2006 TSP will start recording a new album which will subsequently be toured for sure.
6) Other TSP releases? This Xmas the DVD of Metro 2000 will be released. JC has a great smile on his face when I tell him it can't be released as the Final Show now... "That's a good one, hadn't thought about that, might have to come up with a new title now... haha"
7) It is highly unlikely the DVD will be released on Virgin Recs. He was rather quiet on the subject but did say all options were in fact open on this subject. As we know: live recordings of TSP are not owned by Virgin and could be released by any label by matter of a simple clearance deal. They are looking into it this instance JC told me. However: TSP still owes Virgin Recs ONE album or Greatest Hits according to JC. I: "But you screwed them out of MACHINA II" JC: "Well yeah, it was the right thing to do in the spirit of TSP to give away the best of the two albums for free to the fans you know. And why not? When you have more than enough money, why try to earn and earn and earn some more? No, there are some diificulties with Virgin and to say the least we are not on the best of terms with them anymore... So they surely aren't getting any 'gifts' from us." Which would indeed mean the Metro DVD would not be released through Virgin as this would in fact amount to a major 'gift'.
8) There was some talk of a boxset some while ago? JC: "Yes, in fact that might also be ready this Xmas. The basic idea was to have all four Pumpkins DJ a set of unreleased stuff. And release it every following Xmas, like they did with The Lord of the Rings. So four releases with new stuff in total. You know like that I would be Sauron, Bill would be Gandalf, James is Frode and D'Arcy'd be Galadriel. But anyway we are looking into ways of getting stuff out there. I don't know how at this moment, but there is something in the works."
9) At the end of our chat - JC has to break up his own drumkit - I ask him to sign my Moon Demotape which has already been signed by the three other formative members. JC is stunned to see the cassette, gladly signs it and says: "Man, that's some time ago, now you've come full circle with the autographs... but this thing sounds so damn good on tape..." (Which would in fact mean he does play his own copy/copies. A fact which was rather known before since it was JC who was known to me to play TSP live and other recordings all the time while BC couldn't stand listening to his own mistakes etc...)
We then say our goodbyes, JC goes along to break-up his kit and politely but surely we are ushered out of the deserted venue. A truely amazing expierence again with one of the most humble, humane and honest persons in rock I have ever had the pleasure to meet.

Just my two cents...
Cheers...

ZephZero33 · 08-17-2005, 07:56 PM

Wow, thanks for the information.

RopeyLopey · 08-17-2005, 07:57 PM

good read! thanks.

WalkingStrayz · 08-17-2005, 08:00 PM

indeed

Corganist · 08-17-2005, 08:05 PM

Man, where would the SP fan community be without Jimmy Chamberlin? What a guy.

Great post. Wealth of information. Thanks for sharing.

spfreak · 08-17-2005, 08:05 PM

awesome stuff man
thanks a lot

mourninglight · 08-17-2005, 08:15 PM

fun stuff

thanks d00d!

ZackZ · 08-17-2005, 08:15 PM

Fuck anyone who thinks SP won't rock again.

Excellent news about the new JCC album. I thought all was lost when Jimmy said he was joing SP again, and Shawn leaving. I can't wait to see them again.

TuralyonW3 · 08-17-2005, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corganist
Man, where would the SP fan community be without Jimmy Chamberlin? What a guy.

Great post. Wealth of information. Thanks for sharing.

Also, I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE the Xmas stuff is true!!!

dean moriaty · 08-17-2005, 08:26 PM

that was really interesting and exciting too.

thanks a lot for sharing and taking the time to type all that out.

metro dvd this christmas and maybe part one of a series of releases? fuck yeah! awesome news!!!

vbshlofbvgos · 08-17-2005, 08:26 PM

i like how down to earth jimmy seems to be.

vbshlofbvgos · 08-17-2005, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Endless Whining
The line up of the NEW TSP? Well, JC says they'd like the orignal four to get together again. JC is still in touch with James but hasn't spoken to him about the Pumpkins reforming. He however doesn't see a problem with James re-unting with the band. "Why not? It's not like the things people blow up right now in the media and all haven't been said in the studio, in hotels on tour, on stage or whatever? James knows of the issues but it's nothing that cannot be overcome I think."

also, i love how this contradicts everything that billy had been saying before the ad came out.

smashingjj · 08-17-2005, 08:39 PM

hahah, we already thought one way or the other it was you! Maarten was standing next to you, guy with the orange t-shirt. You didn't record it, right?

WalkingStrayz · 08-17-2005, 08:45 PM

fingers crossed for metro show!

victimeiced · 08-17-2005, 08:52 PM

thanks for sharing!

Marquee Moon · 08-17-2005, 09:18 PM

Thanks for this post! Lots of interesting news in there. One thing I can't make sense of, though:

Quote:

Then again: in stead of putting TSP on hold for a while they decided during TSP to break up and do different things (Zwan, solo) to branch out and expierence it all from a different angle.

vbshlofbvgos · 08-17-2005, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marquee Moon
Thanks for this post! Lots of interesting news in there. One thing I can't make sense of, though:

they chose to break up and do other things instead of doing other things while putting the band on hiatus, which is what actually happened in the end.
is that what you're confused about?

davin · 08-17-2005, 09:24 PM

you made my day, thank you.

Marquee Moon · 08-17-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vbshlofbvgos

they chose to break up and do other things instead of doing other things while putting the band on hiatus, which is what actually happened in the end.
is that what you're confused about?

i think so ... thanks for clearing this up

NilSineDeo · 08-17-2005, 09:27 PM

thanks for typing all of this.

damn i hope we'll get the dvd by december

oddhandle · 08-17-2005, 09:49 PM

Jimmy should do all interviews for TSP... Billy can't open his mouth without saying stupid shit. Thanks for a great read.

Hat · 08-17-2005, 09:51 PM

Chamberlain brings balance to the Pumpkins and Corgan's insanity.

shattering fast · 08-17-2005, 10:04 PM

Ah, Jimmy is so awesome. Thanks for posting that.

Le Deux Machina · 08-17-2005, 10:34 PM

I love Jimmy. What a legend. I can't wait for the Metro DVD.

Nova · 08-17-2005, 11:48 PM

Wow, thanks a lot man, you won't find that much info in any magazine.

Punkishlyevil · 08-18-2005, 12:06 AM

Thank you!

chrisothoulos · 08-18-2005, 12:10 AM

I hope this is all true cuz this is just all good news to us.... in fact, its just too good .... hmmmmmmmmmmm

things cant be this good now can they?

Palithius · 08-18-2005, 12:19 AM

he referred to Machina II as the best of the two albums!!!!!!!!!!!

MsMayonaise · 08-18-2005, 12:57 AM

I didn't think I could possibly adore JC anymore than I already did... Thanks so much for posting this! It's the best news we've gotten so far... I hope he's right about the SP reformation and releases...

His comments makes me think about Billy's recent behaviour, and while he seems to try and be positive about his life and whatnot, most of the things he says/does generates negativity (especially regarding the SP thing)...

Endless Whining · 08-18-2005, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smashingjj
hahah, we already thought one way or the other it was you! Maarten was standing next to you, guy with the orange t-shirt. You didn't record it, right?

No, I did not tape this show.

08-17-2005, 07:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Endless Whining Pledge Location: Whinerville DC, USW Posts: 221	JCC @ Melkweg, Amsterdam, NL small interesting interview with JC!!! OK Where to start? Well, first JCC of course. Rather last-minute a show was added before JCC was to play at the Carling Weekend and Pukkelpop Festivals (UK and Belgium). Kind of a warm-up/rehearsel show, not in the least part because JCC is featuring a new guitarist since Sean has moved on. His name is: Gannin Arnold and trust me, the dude can fokken play!!! Venue: Melkweg, Oude Zaal (Old Hall), Amsterdam, NL Attendance: around 50 (fifty) people First European show for JCC ever!!! Setlist: Streetcrawler Life Begins Again PSA Newer Waves Time Shift Love is Real Cranes Lokicat Owed to Daryl Great be it rather short show of JCC. Amazing drumming of course, but also very amazing playing by both Gannin and Billy Mohler. Truely stunning performances, very different versions from time to time. Time Shift and Owed showed most variations when compared to the album. Amazing jams this concert!!! High spirits in the band too!!! Before the show: Walked in and first thing: JC walks up to me and my girlfriend, shakes hands, knows me from previous encounters and we have a very brief chat. He's off the hotel to fresh up but we'll talk after the show JC says. During the show: JCC doesn't bother with the small audience and seem to like the intimate atmosphere. They play "what they know" which seems rather obious since Gannin was only recently added to JCC. Anyway, the band was on full blast. Prepare yourself at the festivals, these dudes really put on a show of "honest music, for honest people" (JCs words on stage). After the show: JC is the nicest man in rock: he poses for pix and signs gladly. The other guys join in. When the frenzy lies down I sit down next to JC and we start to chat. Now the very interesting stuff comes up! Please listen/read carefully, the dude always opens up to me you know... 1) September will mark the recording of the next JCC album. Ten days it took to record LBA, this one will take the same time, or shorter or as long as they have money. The sound may be a little more open and pop... Touring the record (LBA) is the greatest thing in the world; JC just loves to play live he says. 2) Releasedate for the next JCC album: before the new Pumpkins record. 3) Jumping on this info I ask him about the Pumpkins: the ad's in the newspapers even surprised JC. BC and JC have been talking about working together for ages, but this open approach and invitation was a little bit new to him. Then again: in stead of putting TSP on hold for a while they decided during TSP to break up and do different things (Zwan, solo) to branch out and expierence it all from a different angle. Corgan has his stuff, JC his own, Corgan is into progressive stuff JCs doing, JC sees where BC is going and JC would love to play the old songs again. When asked which songs, he clearly tosses me a bright smile when I mention songs like Geek USA. 4) The line up of the NEW TSP? Well, JC says they'd like the orignal four to get together again. JC is still in touch with James but hasn't spoken to him about the Pumpkins reforming. He however doesn't see a problem with James re-unting with the band. "Why not? It's not like the things people blow up right now in the media and all haven't been said in the studio, in hotels on tour, on stage or whatever? James knows of the issues but it's nothing that cannot be overcome I think." 5) D'arcy? "Well, she's the million dollar question. I haven't spoken to her since she left the band in 1999, nor has Billy. Nobody knows what she's been up to and if she's even capable of playing with us again." (Insert your own implications here) 5) Timeframe for TSP? Early 2006 TSP will start recording a new album which will subsequently be toured for sure. 6) Other TSP releases? This Xmas the DVD of Metro 2000 will be released. JC has a great smile on his face when I tell him it can't be released as the Final Show now... "That's a good one, hadn't thought about that, might have to come up with a new title now... haha" 7) It is highly unlikely the DVD will be released on Virgin Recs. He was rather quiet on the subject but did say all options were in fact open on this subject. As we know: live recordings of TSP are not owned by Virgin and could be released by any label by matter of a simple clearance deal. They are looking into it this instance JC told me. However: TSP still owes Virgin Recs ONE album or Greatest Hits according to JC. I: "But you screwed them out of MACHINA II" JC: "Well yeah, it was the right thing to do in the spirit of TSP to give away the best of the two albums for free to the fans you know. And why not? When you have more than enough money, why try to earn and earn and earn some more? No, there are some diificulties with Virgin and to say the least we are not on the best of terms with them anymore... So they surely aren't getting any 'gifts' from us." Which would indeed mean the Metro DVD would not be released through Virgin as this would in fact amount to a major 'gift'. 8) There was some talk of a boxset some while ago? JC: "Yes, in fact that might also be ready this Xmas. The basic idea was to have all four Pumpkins DJ a set of unreleased stuff. And release it every following Xmas, like they did with The Lord of the Rings. So four releases with new stuff in total. You know like that I would be Sauron, Bill would be Gandalf, James is Frode and D'Arcy'd be Galadriel. But anyway we are looking into ways of getting stuff out there. I don't know how at this moment, but there is something in the works." 9) At the end of our chat - JC has to break up his own drumkit - I ask him to sign my Moon Demotape which has already been signed by the three other formative members. JC is stunned to see the cassette, gladly signs it and says: "Man, that's some time ago, now you've come full circle with the autographs... but this thing sounds so damn good on tape..." (Which would in fact mean he does play his own copy/copies. A fact which was rather known before since it was JC who was known to me to play TSP live and other recordings all the time while BC couldn't stand listening to his own mistakes etc...) We then say our goodbyes, JC goes along to break-up his kit and politely but surely we are ushered out of the deserted venue. A truely amazing expierence again with one of the most humble, humane and honest persons in rock I have ever had the pleasure to meet. Just my two cents... Cheers... Last edited by Endless Whining : 08-17-2005 at 07:56 PM.

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dean moriaty lion of saloons Location: ^ Posts: 7,372	that was really interesting and exciting too. thanks a lot for sharing and taking the time to type all that out. metro dvd this christmas and maybe part one of a series of releases? fuck yeah! awesome news!!!

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Palithius Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 5	he referred to Machina II as the best of the two albums!!!!!!!!!!!

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MsMayonaise Demi-God Location: ??? Posts: 323	I didn't think I could possibly adore JC anymore than I already did... Thanks so much for posting this! It's the best news we've gotten so far... I hope he's right about the SP reformation and releases... His comments makes me think about Billy's recent behaviour, and while he seems to try and be positive about his life and whatnot, most of the things he says/does generates negativity (especially regarding the SP thing)...