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Ugly 08-05-2004 03:52 PM

anyone seen "Brown Bunny" AKA "some indie-actress sucks the directors penis"?
 
for those who don't know about this film, its a flick that got panned at Cannes. The director publicly apologized for it. Roger Ebert said it was the worst movie he'd ever seen. Then the director said he hoped Ebert died of rectal cancer and denied apologizing for it. Ebert then said he watched them put a camera up his rectum once and it was more interesting than the Brown Bunny.

basically the film is - guy gets in car and drives. And drives. washes his car in real time. And drives. guy gets blowjob from this indie-darling actress (Chloë Sevigny) - on screen and 100% for real. Turns out that the big "twist" is that Chloë Sevigny is actually dead and he made the whole thing up in his head, kinda like if Jack had gotten a blowjob from Tyler Durden in Fight Club.

The guy who got said blowjob was the lead actor/ director / writer / producer / DP. Which means basically the whole movie was just a big excuse for him to get a blowjob from some indie-actress. I'm all for using a position of power to get some nookie, but that IS pretty low if you ask me.

Anyway, I just want to know 2 things: A) how pretentious as fuck and unbearable is this movie? and B) is there a vidcap or video of Chloë Sevigny sucking the director's penis?

sleeper 08-05-2004 03:54 PM

ive been trying to find a torrent of it for a while. hes an interesting guy, gallo. i want to see it before i start anything.

if anyone can direct me to a torrent, please do

DeviousJ 08-05-2004 04:12 PM

I wonder if one day he just though 'y'know, I'm gonna get Chloe Sevigny to give me a blowjob'?

skippy 08-05-2004 04:12 PM

Oh geez Vincent Gallo did that right? I really liked Buffalo 66. :(

Ensoul 08-05-2004 04:21 PM

yeah, I saw that on one of those god damned VH1 countdown things.

3Marlon3Brando 08-05-2004 05:07 PM

vincent gallo and chloe were dating at the time

Isle 08-05-2004 05:09 PM

after much thought i have concluded that actors = prostitutes

Axis of Action 08-05-2004 05:25 PM

I want to make a movie like this some day

Isle 08-05-2004 05:27 PM

i'd like to make a porno called "Anal Kebab" where a very horny guy with a very long dick bones ten chicks at once

that would rule

cue: "bolly's ready for beddy" pic

yo soy el mejor 08-05-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sehki
I want to make a movie like this some day
i'd like to assist in the production.

Axis of Action 08-05-2004 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yo soy el mejor

i'd like to assist in the production.

For your safety I'm going to have to make sure this thread is deleted.

Debaser 08-05-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by skippy
I really liked Buffalo 66. :(
i hated the shit out of that movie. but from the sound of it, brown bunny is a lot more interesting.

Ugly 08-05-2004 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Debaser


i hated the shit out of that movie. but from the sound of it, brown bunny is a lot more interesting.

if by "interesting" you mean "self-indugent pretentious masturbatory crap" then you're probably right.

DeadSwan 08-05-2004 08:56 PM

no, but i've been waiting for a year for it to come out...


and hey, i saw chloe sevigny the other day...she does the stone-cold stare better than anyone i've ever seen.

DeadSwan 08-05-2004 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3Marlon3Brando
vincent gallo and chloe were dating at the time
my friend went on a date with him a few months ago :o

Mayfuck 08-05-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by DeadSwan
and hey, i saw chloe sevigny the other day...she does the stone-cold stare better than anyone i've ever seen.
you're like a fucking tourist sometimes. shut the fuck up.

DeadSwan 08-05-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck


you're like a fucking tourist sometimes. shut the fuck up.

that was was just for you :D

Ugly 08-05-2004 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3Marlon3Brando
vincent gallo and chloe were dating at the time
it still makes her a whore, though. do you think when she told her parents she was going to be an actress they pictured her blowing some guy on screen in a lame-ass attempt to be artistic? I mean, why the fuck would he have to flat out show a real blowjob, there's about 900 different ways to fake it. The dude is just a self-indulgent prick and whatever he's done has fuck-all merit.

Rider 08-05-2004 09:16 PM

She's had pretty graphic sex seens in almost every movie she ever made. JUst watch kids the first movie she ever did.

DeadSwan 08-05-2004 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly


it still makes her a whore, though. do you think when she told her parents she was going to be an actress they pictured her blowing some guy on screen in a lame-ass attempt to be artistic?

she didn't really want to become an actress. she was just a rich scenester kid from connecticut hanging out in new york who met harmony korine (he wrote kids and directed gummo and julien donkey boy).

you know rich people. they're wacky!

sleeper 08-05-2004 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly


it still makes her a whore, though. do you think when she told her parents she was going to be an actress they pictured her blowing some guy on screen in a lame-ass attempt to be artistic? I mean, why the fuck would he have to flat out show a real blowjob, there's about 900 different ways to fake it. The dude is just a self-indulgent prick and whatever he's done has fuck-all merit.

i dont really buy that argument, though. i dont know, its far too obvious to just be ego or self-indulgence. i think theres something more to it. im skeptical hes that ridiculous. the fact that the premise of the film, on a superficial level, seems so absurd is kinda a good sign for art. i cant say much, but that im curious

Ugly 08-05-2004 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sleeper


i dont really buy that argument, though. i dont know, its far too obvious to just be ego or self-indulgence. i think theres something more to it. im skeptical hes that ridiculous. the fact that the premise of the film, on a superficial level, seems so absurd is kinda a good sign for art. i cant say much, but that im curious

I think there's a line between being obscure and artsy and just making fucking crap. The dude drives his car around and washes it in real time and apprently that's like, half the movie right there. Just batfuck insanity if you ask me.

there's a review on Ain't it cool that you might like. Personally I just thought it was more bullshit.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18100

The Brown Bunny is a masterpiece! American cinema at its best!

The film is a minimalist examination of the damaged human psyche, an honest and profound tribute to the broken heart, affectively portrayed by Vincent Gallo's character, Bud.

....

Vincent Gallo has to be one of the most misunderstood artists of his generation. You cannot simply categorize his talents as a filmmaker, he is so much more than that, and he is a true ARTIST!! The press has never given you this side of him, because that doesn't sell. He is one of the most charismatic and articulate artist I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. Peter Fonda was another such person. I've met so many filmmakers along the way, who get into making movies for the chicks, fame, adulation, much like the plethora of young boys who start rock bands, but Gallo's intentions are far more complex, when compared to his contemporary counterparts. He draws his material from life experience, unlike the new generation of filmmakers who "pay homage" to films and filmmakers. The biggest problem is, everyone wants to be a filmmaker, without putting in the time. You must live and experience life before you can actually attempt to sit down and write a screenplay. If not, where do you draw from when writing?

The Brown Bunny is not a film about Chloe Sevigny giving Vincent Gallo a blowjob. In fact, when the scene unfolded, it was disturbing to watch. It has to be one of the most demeaning scenes I've ever seen an actor perform on screen. I had to stop myself a few times from turning away. But, after the film ended, and knowing why the scene was done in the manner which it was done, I can say that the scene is not gratuitous, to say the least. It completely serves its purpose in the narrative.

....

Vincent Gallo is a true original working by his own rules, an artist who truly respects organic storytelling, his characters, and most importantly, the filmmaking process.

The Brown Bunny's road sequences makes you reflect on your own life as the dreamlike images appear on the screen. Those long haunting road scenes provoke you to exam your own psyche and state of mind.

Now, I understand this film is not for everyone. And I couldn't recommend it to the average moviegoer, because they'd probably want to kill me after watching it. It's a true art house movie, not to be confused with the "art house" movies Miramax makes. The Brown Bunny takes you back to the old school of art house movies.


Self indulgent masturbatory review for a self-indulgent masturbatory movie. fits perfectly if you ask me.

DeadSwan 08-05-2004 09:31 PM

the thing with him is you gotta give him credit, if only for being around for fucking forever.

sleeper 08-05-2004 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly


I think there's a line between being obscure and artsy and just making fucking crap. The dude drives his car around and washes it in real time and apprently that's like, half the movie right there. Just batfuck insanity if you ask me.

there's a review on Ain't it cool that you might like. Personally I just thought it was more bullshit.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18100

The Brown Bunny is a masterpiece! American cinema at its best!

The film is a minimalist examination of the damaged human psyche, an honest and profound tribute to the broken heart, affectively portrayed by Vincent Gallo's character, Bud.

....

Vincent Gallo has to be one of the most misunderstood artists of his generation. You cannot simply categorize his talents as a filmmaker, he is so much more than that, and he is a true ARTIST!! The press has never given you this side of him, because that doesn't sell. He is one of the most charismatic and articulate artist I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. Peter Fonda was another such person. I've met so many filmmakers along the way, who get into making movies for the chicks, fame, adulation, much like the plethora of young boys who start rock bands, but Gallo's intentions are far more complex, when compared to his contemporary counterparts. He draws his material from life experience, unlike the new generation of filmmakers who "pay homage" to films and filmmakers. The biggest problem is, everyone wants to be a filmmaker, without putting in the time. You must live and experience life before you can actually attempt to sit down and write a screenplay. If not, where do you draw from when writing?

The Brown Bunny is not a film about Chloe Sevigny giving Vincent Gallo a blowjob. In fact, when the scene unfolded, it was disturbing to watch. It has to be one of the most demeaning scenes I've ever seen an actor perform on screen. I had to stop myself a few times from turning away. But, after the film ended, and knowing why the scene was done in the manner which it was done, I can say that the scene is not gratuitous, to say the least. It completely serves its purpose in the narrative.

....

Vincent Gallo is a true original working by his own rules, an artist who truly respects organic storytelling, his characters, and most importantly, the filmmaking process.

The Brown Bunny's road sequences makes you reflect on your own life as the dreamlike images appear on the screen. Those long haunting road scenes provoke you to exam your own psyche and state of mind.

Now, I understand this film is not for everyone. And I couldn't recommend it to the average moviegoer, because they'd probably want to kill me after watching it. It's a true art house movie, not to be confused with the "art house" movies Miramax makes. The Brown Bunny takes you back to the old school of art house movies.


Self indulgent masturbatory review for a self-indulgent masturbatory movie. fits perfectly if you ask me.

actually, when i first heard about the film, about the one shot, i thought it was a great idea. i still do, but i really want to see it, because its highly dependant on its execution.

i think a lot of people get really easily offended by "artists." not artists, but "artists" in quotes. many people are very skeptical of artists and think the moment they make a piece of art out of feces or whatever, theyre phonys and are using that 'art' context to do whatever they want. its common, yes, but i think for the time being ill give gallo the benefit of the doubt. im starting to think i really might like it. you shouldnt have spoiled that important twist though

Ugly 08-05-2004 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by sleeper



i think a lot of people get really easily offended by "artists." not artists, but "artists" in quotes. many people are very skeptical of artists and think the moment they make a piece of art out of feces or whatever, theyre phonys and are using that 'art' context to do whatever they want. its common, yes, but i think for the time being ill give gallo the benefit of the doubt.

see, I don't buy the "artist" pose whatsoever. Putting a cruffix in a jar of piss, throwing feeces all over stuff, dude throwing up because he's disgusted by the mona lisa. There was a bit in a comic called EX MACHINA where someone took a portrait of Abraham Lincon and wrote NIGGER across it and everyone is trying to defend it "oooohhh!! Its art! you can't understand it"

smacks of snoobery to me. As if someone who creates this "art" (be it blowjob movies or feeces sculptures) is above the rest of us carbon based life-forms. I like my fucked up shit nice and fucked up, sure, but there's just a point where it hits self-indulgence where the fucked up attitute of the artist is more important that whatever they're trying to pull across. "Ohh, look at me! I'm so important I can put whatever the hell I want up there because I'm an artist goddamnit!"

I don't buy it. Not a single lick.

Lie 08-05-2004 11:31 PM

I don't really understand the point of arguing over whether someone is or isn't a whore or whether actors are whores or whether it's a pretentious idea when you haven't even seen the movie.

Personally, though, I don't want to see it because it would probably ruin the perfectly balanced hot and horny feeling I got from just reading about it here.

sleeper 08-06-2004 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ugly


see, I don't buy the "artist" pose whatsoever. Putting a cruffix in a jar of piss, throwing feeces all over stuff, dude throwing up because he's disgusted by the mona lisa. There was a bit in a comic called EX MACHINA where someone took a portrait of Abraham Lincon and wrote NIGGER across it and everyone is trying to defend it "oooohhh!! Its art! you can't understand it"

smacks of snoobery to me. As if someone who creates this "art" (be it blowjob movies or feeces sculptures) is above the rest of us carbon based life-forms. I like my fucked up shit nice and fucked up, sure, but there's just a point where it hits self-indulgence where the fucked up attitute of the artist is more important that whatever they're trying to pull across. "Ohh, look at me! I'm so important I can put whatever the hell I want up there because I'm an artist goddamnit!"

I don't buy it. Not a single lick.

this certainly doesnt not exist. there are many, many artist who totally fit this bill. but its important to realize a lot, not all, of that stuff that seems absurd or pretentious actually has real substance. i dont even want to get into that really. but youre right about how it definately comes off arrogantly. thats a big problem and it becomes a real challenge not coming off that way. if you do, people close themselves to the art.

alisonmonster 08-06-2004 10:15 AM

i recall learning last year in art in a cultural context about a guy out west who ejaculated into test tubes and (sponsered by the local gallery) wheeled them around in a fridge around downtown and showing the tourists his test tubes- each labeled with a name of a family member.

Even better- a guy who -after several months- partially filled a water cooler with piss- where the contents were filtrated (or somthing to that effect) leaving only the water portion of the urine. And visitors were invited to take a drink.

Anyway-though its sort of weird/interesting - i generally hate this stuff just because it sort of makes the general public get a bad taste on arts in general. Like- "You're an artist-hahaha so how do you make a living on THAT?" " You could just paint 2 stripes then sell it in a gallery for 10 grand"

Shit like " brown bunny " cloaks somthing you can see anywhere into somthing pretentious - just because the actress is famous and the cinemetography isn't terrible doesn't make a blow job instantly an art house classic.


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