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Samsa 11-04-2002 05:26 PM

offensive halloween costumes?
 
yeah i'm reading my school newsppaer and there was a short blurb just mentioning it but it didn't go into detail and i wonder like to what they referring. they just said 'costumes depicting different ethnicities' like what? i guess there's the hip-hop costume umm...actually i saw. two costumes i witnessed just randomly struck me as more or less odd. one girl was dressed like a geisha and some guy had a towel wrapped around his head. wtf? seriously the towel thing. maybe it wasn't supposed to be a turban but i can't think of any other option. really fucking strange. yeah. i dunno. i wish there were a longer article about it.

Samsa 11-04-2002 05:27 PM

ohhhh indians. right? i remember when i was like in 4th grade i dressed like pocohontas or osmething. i guess is that somewhat offensive? i dunno. i dunno if that's so offensive because pocohontas has more or less been turned into a fictional character i dunno. i dunno. it probably is like wrong i don't know.

palidor 11-04-2002 05:27 PM

http://www.nerdvision.net/jason/churchofnomaam.jpg

SPZero 11-04-2002 05:40 PM

I saw a huge bloody tampon walking around.

FearFactory 11-04-2002 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by palidor
http://www.nerdvision.net/jason/churchofnomaam.jpg
Hooters, hooters yum yum yum yum
Hooters, hooters on a girl that's dumb


Samsa 11-04-2002 05:41 PM

holy shit. what is you people's fucking problem? can you not answer one topic seriously? are you that fucking stupid?

palidor 11-04-2002 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FearFactory


Hooters, hooters yum yum yum yum
Hooters, hooters on a girl that's dumb


i love your hooters,
i love your ass,
what say we meet
right after class

Kalsedony 11-04-2002 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
holy shit. what is you people's fucking problem? can you not answer one topic seriously? are you that fucking stupid?
There's a coherent question?

FearFactory 11-04-2002 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
holy shit. what is you people's fucking problem? can you not answer one topic seriously? are you that fucking stupid?
Hey, whatsa matta you? you no lika the conversation?

Samsa 11-04-2002 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kalsedony


There's a coherent question?

yes. if you fucking read my original post. what do you think of people dressing as ethnic stereotypes for fucking halloween huh? like a fu cking japanese person or an indian or a rapper or like, ugh. some guy wrapping a towel around his head.

Kalsedony 11-04-2002 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa


yes. if you fucking read my original post. what do you think of people dressing as ethnic stereotypes for fucking halloween huh? like a fu cking japanese person or an indian or a rapper or like, ugh. some guy wrapping a towel around his head.

Oh, okay. The lack of proper punctuation was a bit confusing...

Samsa 11-04-2002 07:44 PM

lack of proper punctuation renders you incapable of turning consonants and values into words?

ammy 11-04-2002 07:48 PM

whenever you post something you say is a question it usually reads as if it were a rhetorical question, 'cause you really just seem to be musing.. so no one really knows what you want an answer to..

or at least that's how your posts read to me.

Kalsedony 11-04-2002 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
lack of proper punctuation renders you incapable of turning consonants and values into words?
Yes.

<3

avian chaos 11-04-2002 08:43 PM

This lady at my best friend's mom's workplace dressed up like the ashes of 911.

Samsa 11-04-2002 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by avian chaos
This lady at my best friend's mom's workplace dressed up like the ashes of 911.
omfgod

i think i heard somewhere...someone mentioned like within ear shot that someone they knew dressed up as a white guy one halloween. ahhh ha ha.

Nate the Grate 11-04-2002 09:19 PM

this one guy came to school dressed as a dead fireman. he was all burnt and everything. people didn't like it much.

Kalsedony 11-04-2002 09:24 PM

How do you dress up as ashes? Do you just dress in gray or something?

BlueStar 11-04-2002 09:28 PM

http://home.nyu.edu/~sag249/indians.jpg

Samsa 11-04-2002 09:31 PM

so if you were japanese and you saw someone walking around with a fan and a kimono and white face paint and chopsticks in their hair, would you be offended or would you not really give a fuck?

BlueStar 11-04-2002 09:33 PM

http://www.dribbleglass.com/subpages/costumes.htm

BlueStar 11-04-2002 09:36 PM

I remember on Good Morning America and other news shows, there one was costume in particular this year that was causing an uproar...

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New York - The National Association of Asian American Professionals (NAAAP), the largest and fastest growing Asian American professional organization with representation in over 25 cities across the continental U.S. and in Canada, denounces a recent Halloween costume called "Kung Fool" created by a multi-million dollar company named Disguise.

"Kung Fool" has been distributed to more than 20,000 retail stores around the nation including Party City, Walmart, and Target. Marketed to children, the costume consists of a black and white Japanese karate uniform with a rubber half-cap, depicting a buck-toothed, squinty-eyed caricature donning a headband with the Chinese character for "loser". Until recently, the company's website ran the following description for the costume: "Hiiiiiiiyaaaaa! Become a master of martial arts overnight, or… well… maybe not, but have fun wearing the Disguise Kung Fool costume!"

"It is a shame to see a costume like this in stores," stated Vincent Yee, NAAAP National President. "Company executives may see this as innocent fun, but they don't realize how hurtful this product can be to others. This product perpetuates years of negative images of Asian Americans in the media and the stereotypes that we have fought so hard to get rid of. Although Asian Americans have made significant progress in the struggle for equality and respect, this clearly shows that we have a lot more work ahead of us."

A high-profile example occurred six months ago when clothing manufacturer Abercrombie and Fitch created a line of "Wong Brothers Laundry Service" t-shirts to appeal to the growing Asian American market with an estimated buying power of over $250 billion, claiming the shirts were "cheeky, irreverent, funny." Unfortunately, they drew the ire of Asian Americans who found the images to be racist and offensive and demanded their removal from all stores with an apology from the company. The company ultimately recalled the t-shirts and apologized for offending the Asian American community.

While many of Disguise's costumes offer model cartoon heroes, fictional characters and even infamous celebrities, no other costume singles out for ridicule a community like "Kung-Fool" does. NAAAP National encourages all Americans to visit their local stores who carry the "Kung Fool" costume and express their concerns to store managers. Concerned parties may also visit http://petition.yellowworld.org/ to sign a petition created by several Asian American national organizations in response to this situation.

Kalsedony 11-04-2002 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
so if you were japanese and you saw someone walking around with a fan and a kimono and white face paint and chopsticks in their hair, would you be offended or would you not really give a fuck?
I wouldn't be offended, but then again, I'm a chola, not Japanese.

BlueStar 11-04-2002 09:39 PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...nigs103102.asp

Quote:

Formerly Living Person (formerly "Ghost"):
When your child throws a sheet over his head and exclaims: "Boo! Look at me! I'm a scary ghost!" It is your responsibility to say; "No Billy, you're a life energy who has passed over to the other side with an inexplicable desire to converse on national television with John Edwards."

Irrelevant 11-04-2002 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
so if you were japanese and you saw someone walking around with a fan and a kimono and white face paint and chopsticks in their hair, would you be offended or would you not really give a fuck?
idunno. if someone dressed up as a jew for halloween would it offend you?

if someone dressed up as a hick for halloween should it offend me? i don't know. not really, but i would think it was dumb to dress up as a stereotype.

Samsa 11-04-2002 09:53 PM

yes i personally would be offended if someone dressed like a jew for halloween. which is sorta my point. i don't really see people walking around dressed like jews but i see people walking around dressed like japanese people or native americans. ugh. and yeah i saw someone dressed as a hick. neverfucking mend. nevermind.

Irrelevant 11-04-2002 09:55 PM

i wish i had thought about it in advance. here are the costume possibilities i could have undertaken but instead ignored because halloween sucked:

strap a bunch of dynamite on me and dress up as a stereotypical arab and be a suicide bomber.

dress up as a catholic priest and make eyes at little boys.

HA HA HA OFFENDSIVE~!

BlueStar 11-04-2002 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
yes i personally would be offended if someone dressed like a jew for halloween. which is sorta my point. i don't really see people walking around dressed like jews but i see people walking around dressed like japanese people or native americans. ugh. and yeah i saw someone dressed as a hick. neverfucking mend. nevermind.
But I think the point is that they are not dressing up as what a Japanese or Native American person looks like now (on an everyday basis) (stereotpyically speaking, of course). People are dressing up in the traditional cultural dress of those people, which I don't fnd offensive. If I saw someone with a long black hair wig, ripped jeans, no shirt, cowboy boots, and a bottle of alcohol running around saying he was a Indian, I would think it was offensive.

Samsa 11-04-2002 09:59 PM

well okay i'm not arguing ofr a particular point of view. the reason i postedd it is because i think it's an interesting fucking issue and i don't have a fucking opinion so you people can stop arguing with me if you fucking want. not everything is black and white.

ammy 11-04-2002 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Samsa
well okay i'm not arguing ofr a particular point of view. the reason i postedd it is because i think it's an interesting fucking issue and i don't have a fucking opinion so you people can stop arguing with me if you fucking want. not everything is black and white.
the ONE fucking time people are actually having a CIVIL conversation/discussion with you....


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