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scouse_dave 01-22-2004 08:23 PM

If you're quoting someone and you want to immediately follow the quote...
 
with some punctuation, the punctuation goes OUTSIDE of the quotation marks.

e.g. according to a leading "liberal." etc etc

it's fuckin annoying...and actually distorts the quote. the entire point of a quotation is that it refers to what was said verbatim.

thankyou for listening Nimrod, Sawdust Restaurants and everyone else...

BeautifulLoser 01-22-2004 08:25 PM

I know that's the rule, but it always looked weird to me that way.

according to the leading "liberal".

It just looks out of place. :(

Toby 01-22-2004 08:25 PM

I always thought it was inside the quotation marks. :confused:

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:26 PM

What if you're putting quotation marks in place of making Dr. Evil-like hand quotes? That's why I usually use them.

sppunk 01-22-2004 08:26 PM

It goes inside the quote marks, according to Associated Press style.

"I think they go like this," Dr. Martin said, while looking perplexed. "I really do, the AP style says so."

Toby 01-22-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
What if you're putting quotation marks in place of making Dr. Evil-like hand quotes? That's why I usually use them.
"Time Machine"

sppunk 01-22-2004 08:29 PM

On a side not, only question marks are allowed outside the quote marks, and only in certain circumstances.

Mayfuck 01-22-2004 08:29 PM

Except for a few exceptions, punctuations generally go inside the quotation marks.

Toby 01-22-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sppunk
On a side not, only question marks are allowed outside the quote marks, and only in certain circumstances.
"wat fark?"

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toby
"wat fark?"
No, it would be more like:

Did she really say you're a "smelly son of a whore"?

sppunk 01-22-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Toby
"wat fark?"
Yeah, that's correct.

You seldom use them outside, but if you are quoting someone, and they did not specifically ask a question but the statement you are writing does, you put it after their quote.

scouse_dave 01-22-2004 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayfuck
Except for a few exceptions, punctuations generally go inside the quotation marks.
the simple rule is...if the person implied that piece of punctuation in their speech, it goes INSIDE the quotation marks

e.g. "fuck off, you bastard!"

and if you are quoting a single word or short phrase which, in my example, doesn't end a sentence, the 'period' should go OUTSIDE the quotation marks.

e.g. if i was quoting a portion of julio's reply above, it would be improper to write: 'in his sentence, julio used the word "generally."

the period is not in the correct place because the quote implies that the period immediately followed the word 'generally', which, of course, it did not.

ammy 01-22-2004 08:44 PM

what about a case where someone is quoting within a sentance as such

"I hate you all," he shouted, "you suck!"

is it in or out? (the comma)

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scouse_dave
the period is not in the correct place because the quote implies that the period immediately followed the word 'generally',
What are the rules for single quotes of wise and honorable grammar god?

BTW, you may also have heard we spell some word differently over here. This may just be another cultural difference, like "neighbour" and "neighbor" and "Londoner" and "crooked teeth limey."

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy
what about a case where someone is quoting within a sentance as such

"I hate you all," he shouted, "you suck!"

is it in or out? (the comma)

That should be "I hate you all!" he shouted. "You suck!"

ammy 01-22-2004 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
That should be "I hate you all!" he shouted. "You suck!"
fine, pretend it's an instance where the comma would be appropriate...

BeautifulLoser 01-22-2004 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
What are the rules for single quotes of wise and honorable grammar god?

BTW, you may also have heard we spell some word differently over here. This may just be another cultural difference, like "neighbour" and "neighbor" and "Londoner" and "crooked teeth limey."

Angry much?

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy


fine, pretend it's an instance where the comma would be appropriate...

"If I were to be quoted," he said, "I would like it this way."

Nimrod's Son 01-22-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


Angry much?

I put the "".
Besides, Dave's no Londoner.

KrazeeStacee 01-22-2004 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy


fine, pretend it's an instance where the comma would be appropriate...

I'm pretty sure it would go outside, considering it's part of your sentence structure, not his statement.

Eulogy 01-22-2004 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scouse_dave
the simple rule is...if the person implied that piece of punctuation in their speech, it goes INSIDE the quotation marks

e.g. "fuck off, you bastard!"

and if you are quoting a single word or short phrase which, in my example, doesn't end a sentence, the 'period' should go OUTSIDE the quotation marks.

e.g. if i was quoting a portion of julio's reply above, it would be improper to write: 'in his sentence, julio used the word "generally."

the period is not in the correct place because the quote implies that the period immediately followed the word 'generally', which, of course, it did not.

Where the fuck did you learn that?

Fattening Ass 01-22-2004 11:32 PM

+1

smiling politely 01-22-2004 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scouse_dave
the simple rule is...if the person implied that piece of punctuation in their speech, it goes INSIDE the quotation marks

e.g. "fuck off, you bastard!"

and if you are quoting a single word or short phrase which, in my example, doesn't end a sentence, the 'period' should go OUTSIDE the quotation marks.

e.g. if i was quoting a portion of julio's reply above, it would be improper to write: 'in his sentence, julio used the word "generally."

the period is not in the correct place because the quote implies that the period immediately followed the word 'generally', which, of course, it did not.

Just because it actually makes sense doesn't mean it's a rule. It would be gramatically correct to put the period inside the quotes in your example. English can be stupid, but that's the rule.

noir cat 01-22-2004 11:57 PM

OMF. Don't fill my head with nonsense.

DeviousJ 01-23-2004 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eulogy


Where the fuck did you learn that?

University, highschooler.

meow 01-23-2004 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayfuck
Except for a few exceptions, punctuations generally go inside the quotation marks.
The only exception being, if you are using the apa format of referencing....

"Blah Blah" (Freud, 1895).

beef curtains 01-23-2004 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fattening Ass
+1
Ooh, orange stars for Gilly!
Its so weird to see everyone getting orange and green stars *nostalgic whimper*

noir cat 01-23-2004 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by So very sad about me
Ooh, orange stars for Gilly!
Its so weird to see everyone getting orange and green stars *nostalgic whimper*

Decoding Shannon's post: "+ 1."

Eulogy 01-23-2004 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeviousJ


University, highschooler.

Well his university must have been pretty shitty.

Fattening Ass 01-23-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by So very sad about me


Ooh, orange stars for Gilly!
Its so weird to see everyone getting orange and green stars *nostalgic whimper*

sup baby. orange i am :(


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