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ammy 10-18-2002 01:27 PM

how much of an ethnicity must you be to say you are that ethnicity legally?
 
isn't it something like 1/4?

Debaser 10-18-2002 01:28 PM

why does ethnicity matter

ammy 10-18-2002 01:29 PM

fin. aid and such... i just found out i'm 1/4 mexican. that could be useful information for my everyday life.

kypper 10-18-2002 01:30 PM

Apparently somewhere back there I'm wop. Who knew?

ammy 10-18-2002 01:31 PM

what is wop? wtf?

Debaser 10-18-2002 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy
fin. aid and such... i just found out i'm 1/4 mexican. that could be useful information for my everyday life.
useful in what way?

kypper 10-18-2002 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy
what is wop? wtf?
Italian.

ammy 10-18-2002 01:34 PM

i don't really know..

would you answer my question? hm? :(

tootsie 10-18-2002 01:36 PM

i believe you can claim whatever you want, except of course american indian blood, you have to be carded & registered.

im a little less than half pacific islander, but i always state that i am, since it sometimes helps on an application.

Oblivious 10-18-2002 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


Italian.

:rolleyes:

no, stupid.

W.O.P. = With Out Papers

many immigrants were W.O.P.s.

Debaser 10-18-2002 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ammy
i don't really know..

would you answer my question? hm? :(

beats me.

i dunno.

I'd say if you actually look ethnic then go for it and call yourself that. But if you look white and go around telling people you're italian, then that's just lame. That's annoying when some white cracka tries to play off their honkyness cuz they're like 1/12 american indian. don't be ashamed whitey!

oh yeah, there's an exception, you can still call yourself an ethnicity if you are really 100% that but by some freak of nature actually look white--like that white looking mexican dude ("vatos locos forever!!!") in Blood in Blood out.

Oblivious 10-18-2002 01:43 PM

i know that my sister got her college tuition paid for by using our ethnicity factor. but she had to go to the archives in DC to get all kinds of documentations and stuff and it seemed like a lot of work to me. damn injuns kept lousy records. :noway:

obscured01 10-18-2002 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Debaser


beats me.

i dunno.

I'd say if you actually look ethnic then go for it and call yourself that. But if you look white and go around telling people you're italian, then that's just lame. That's annoying when some white cracka tries to play off their honkyness cuz they're like 1/12 american indian. don't be ashamed whitey!

oh yeah, there's an exception, you can still call yourself an ethnicity if you are really 100% that but by some freak of nature actually look white--like that white looking mexican dude ("vatos locos forever!!!") in Blood in Blood out.

Now... my father is Spanish (from Spain not Mexican) and I'm a little less than half Spanish from him. He had dark blonde hair and blue eyes, and I've got real light features as well, but still, when I'm filling out the financial forms, I check mark 'hispanic' because I am, whether I look entirely white or not.
Of course, I've got lots of other things, like Irish and French and English and Indian, but when they ask for that for fin. aid, I always just checkmared 'white caucasian' and 'hispanic'

Kalsedony 10-18-2002 03:49 PM

Legally: one quarter.

If you don't want to get laughed at by people who are actually of that ethnicity group: half or more.

kypper 10-18-2002 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivious


:rolleyes:

no, stupid.

W.O.P. = With Out Papers

many immigrants were W.O.P.s.

People here call italians wops as a derogatory term. They call mexicans spics, and vietnamese gooks. I don't care what you think, that's the reality of it.

Uterus Lining 10-18-2002 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivious


:rolleyes:

no, stupid.

W.O.P. = With Out Papers

many immigrants were W.O.P.s.

:-o

I never knew that! But, yeah... the derogatory term for Italians is wops. I think the derogatory term for all Hispanics are spics... or spicks or whatever.

Oblivious 10-18-2002 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


People here call italians wops as a derogatory term. They call mexicans spics, and vietnamese gooks. I don't care what you think, that's the reality of it.

no. the reality of it is that it's an acronym. so it's not really all that derogatory.

beef curtains 10-18-2002 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Uterus Lining
:-o

I never knew that! But, yeah... the derogatory term for Italians is wops. I think the derogatory term for all Hispanics are spics... or spicks or whatever.

i was in a mexican restaurant a couple years ago.... and they gave me one of those after red and white striped after dinner mints, and it said spi-C mint... like spicy mint

i read it as "spic mint" quite loudly (not knowing what a spic was.... in a mexican restaurant) and my sister was shocked

:erm

kypper 10-18-2002 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivious


no. the reality of it is that it's an acronym. so it's not really all that derogatory.

and you wonder why you never got your secret santa present.

Oblivious 10-18-2002 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


and you wonder why you never got your secret santa present.

look. i'm not being bitchy. merely factual. :)

obscured01 10-18-2002 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


and you wonder why you never got your secret santa present.

That wasn't very nice. I never got mine either... :(

I just noticed you have my favorite song lyrics in your sig. Wow. :)


kypper 10-18-2002 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivious


look. i'm not being bitchy. merely factual. :)

well, fuck technically stands for:
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

That doesn't mean people don't think of banging the shit out of each other and think it's perfectly ok.

Oblivious 10-18-2002 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


well, fuck technically stands for:
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

That doesn't mean people don't think of banging the shit out of each other and think it's perfectly ok.


what does that have to do with the misuse of the word W.O.P.?

if you want to use a degogatory term to refer to an italian at least use one that can be used for italians only - like dago. because W.O.P. again, refers to anyone arriving to the states with no documentation. so anyone that thinks they're being derogatory(or even just joking around) by using the term W.O.P. to describe an italian just sounds really idiotic and uneducated.

scouse_dave 10-18-2002 05:02 PM

kypper has already won this argument...now let's move along

jenn 10-18-2002 05:03 PM

i used my 1/8 hispanic to get me lots of free money for college...*shrug*

Oblivious 10-18-2002 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scouse_dave
kypper has already won this argument...now let's move along
once again - i was not arguing. how can one argue the factual orgins of a word? i thought i was only stating the obvious. :)

random1982 10-18-2002 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kypper


well, fuck technically stands for:
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

That doesn't mean people don't think of banging the shit out of each other and think it's perfectly ok.

I always thought that was one of those common misonceptions.

http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.htm

(I still agree with your point though, just not the example.):o

Boner 10-18-2002 09:37 PM

One Drop Rule
 
THE RULE IS ONE DROP.

Whoever is saying you need to be one-quarter is wrong.

At least as it applies to claiming African-American or Hispanic/Non-White on anything having to do with the federal government.

Maybe it's different for other races.

Geore Will had a good column on it in Newsweek circa April 2002. Just saying how ridiculous the "one-drop" rule is. His article just referred to African-Americans.

I would search for the link but I doubt one will read this post anyway.


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