How come every musician thinks they will be a rockstar?
 

"Yeah, you know man, we got some really good songs and we are playing in New York in a few months and we just got signed to a record label."

Whats better is the suburban white dude that has some turntables and thinks he's going to be the next great DJ.

It's like most black kids thinking they can be NBA basketball players.

There must be thousands of these shitty little garage bands in every state thinking they have the material to be famous. Face it, you will eventually be working in retail.

Re: How come every musician thinks they will be a rockstar?
 

I hate how all the shitty, white suburban ones get famous and rich while the talented ones seem to fall between the cracks.

oh yeah, WRONG BOARD ASS FUCK

******.

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conscious choice. anyway, i hope i didn't shatter your dreams.

Re: How come every musician thinks they will be a rockstar?
 

no matter where you go, people have a thirst for stardom.

In the suburbs i live in now, i know these kids that think they are going to be big shit rock stars in their little punk rock band.

In the ghetto, I know a clique of about fifteen black kids that do absolutely nothing but get together and freestyle battle each other.

the sad thing is both of those examples could easily produce a big thing in the music industry, it's only about ten percent talent though.

Everyone thinks they're going to be the shit. I have several friends who couldn't write if their lives depended on it, yet they are convinced they're going to make it as writers.

Just smile and nod.

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I can tap my foot on the ground with a song's beat pretty well, that's the extent of my musical ability.

See that's the thing, talent really isn't shit. It's all about getting your foot in the door.

Look at how many talentless acts have gone platinum and try to disagree.

show BIZNIZZ.

You could have the voice of god, and the musical ability to be the best at every instrument ever made. You will not get famous unless you have something the labels are familar with how to promote, having the correct imagery and just flat out luck.

It ain't even about music anymore, it's about culture and concept.

This was my band. let's just say we didn't "make it".

http://www.gargano.it/citta/ssevero/band/band.jpg

Depends how you judge success. I'd consider being able to play and make music for a living successful, whereas the singer in my band only considers a huge major-label deal successful. Only a select few make millions, and it's usually because they're a commodity which can be moved in large units. Making it on your own is more a balance between talent and business sense, and probably in varying measures

You're not successful until Weird Al does a parody of one of your songs.

Not only are things not what they used to be, but they never were what they used to be.

Such is the commerce of entertainment.

Nirvana reference?

I've given up on hoping to be even moderately successful (read: play music and not starve) in a band. I'll win the lottery and then buy myself musical talent. Yes, I like that idea.

I don't think it's a person adamantly believing the thing is going to happen to them. I think a lot of people find something they love where breaking into it professionally is insanely hard, but strive for it anyway. Just because it doesn't happen often doesn't mean they should give up. Most people go into any kind of entertainment field knowing how minimal their chances are. It's shoved down their throats everyday.

I've been thinking about my Oscar acceptance speech since I was 13. After I graduate college, I'm moving to L.A. I know it is cliche and I know I will be joining thousands like me. I don't firmly believe I'm going to make it, but I believe in myself, I believe in my talent, and I believe if I don't strive for being a film actress, I will never forgive myself.

which one are you?

good luck, the odds are against you. post a picture and i'll tell you your chances.

Stevie Van Zandt mentioned someone, or some thing, is trying to kill Rock n' Roll...Im sure the 'Merchants of Cool' are always scouring the clubs for the next big thing, but are they even looking at Rock acts anymore since hip-hop has an endless supply of playa's that can sell if their street cred is ripe?

Good call on the Cobain reference.

Okay, Lester Bangs.

If you don't know the odds are against you, you're an idiot. But that doesn't mean you can't try, and dammit, if you're going to make it anywhere, you have to absolutely believe you will. It doesn't mean you will, of course, but it's almost a prerequisite. And what the hell is it to you? I'd rather have dreams and stories to tell when I get older than be someone who feels it's somehow their responsibility to bring everyone down.

And like Lee said, success can be judged in different ways. Personally, my thing is that I want to do it my way, and if that means not having mainstream appeal, that's absolutely fine. My first reaction upon being offered a record deal would probably be caution and suspicion rather than elation. Music is a part of my life that I'm absolutely sincere about, and I wouldn't want to do anything to ruin what it is to me now. There's more to these things, if you're sincere, than catching the next wave. I do look down on the typical garage band from the suburbs type of outfit who can't play for shit but is convinced they're going to hit it big, so I do know what you're talking about. But it doesn't really bother me so I don't let it affect me. If anything, it's those people who have the strategies and the know-how but not much else who ultimately will hit it big, but ultimately aren't going to get anything out of it, unless all they want is money, and I don't envy them. I think it's complete bullshit that you can't know what you're doing on a deeper level, if you really get into the roots of whatever it is you're trying to achieve. I think to be successful into the most well-rounded way you have to both be aware of the current music scene and also your own roots and influences and what you want to become personally. And I do think it's possible to somewhat gauge your successes, to understand exactly what you're doing and how you can potentially be accepted, while still maintaining integrity.

Let me put it this way. I would love to be a rock star, or would be happy to simply make a living as a musician. I favor these fantasies because they make me happy, and will continue to whether or not they become a reality. I don't feel the need to shove my ambitions in other peoples' faces, in fact, I hardly ever mention it except on here, and when I do I'm always half-joking. And everything that I put toward this goal, everything that I learn as a musician, is something that I would want to do anyway. I enjoy every minute of it, so there's no way I'm wasting my time or energy, especially considering the extra energy it gives me. From my point of view, I don't see what else life is for. I don't think there's anything better than having the luxury of living a second life dedicated to something you love with the possibility of making it your whole life. It's that simple. I feel lucky regardless.

I spoke to the legal exec from a big record company here in NZ about "making it" ... this guy has been working for record companies for 20 odd years in several different countries and he had some really interesting stuff to say.

He reckons that no matter where you are in the world it's always the same - 10% of people will "make it" big ... and the thing that seperates that 10% from the rest has very little to do with talent, and everything to do with application.

Take what you will from that - I mean obviously talent, luck, social trends all do play a part - but I do think it was a fairly insightful comment based on a lot of experience in the popular music industry.

Big record deals are a misnomer - most people haven't got a fucking clue about what a recoupable is, let alone the mechanisms by which record companies make money from the artist.

if my phone would have kept it, i'd record that message you left me and sell it on eBay when you get famous-- ULTRA RARE COVER SONG TEASE!!!1