vegans & honey
 

my roommate is vegan and won't touch anything with beeswax or honey.

my best friend is vegan and uses honey and beeswax all the time.

i guess it's a personal opinion as to whether or not insect products can be classified as animal products. what do the vegans here think?

peta is against it,i know that much, but then again, they're a little extreme for me.

i'm not a fan of honey anyway, so, i'm not missing out.

do you go out of your way to avoid products with honey in it? (teas, cereals, stirfry sauces, etc)?

i was under the impression that vegetarians didn't eat any animals (meat, poultry, fish, eggs, etc.) and that vegans didn't use ANY animal products whatsoever. no honey, no milk or dairy at all....

Why anyone would want to eat the vomit of an insect is beyond me.

i'm a very picky eater.
i don't like honey by itself or in my food.

i hardly buy any products that consist of honey for these reasons.
but if the odd granola bar has honey in it and i can't taste it, i'm not going to reject it.
check this link out, it has all of those "is it okay to...?" vegetarian questions
http://www.askcarla.com/ac/tempfaq/moretopics.html

here's what they say about honey

What’s wrong with eating honey?

Unfortunately, like factory farmers, many beekeepers take inhumane steps to ensure personal safety and reach production quotas. It’s not unusual for larger honey producers to cut off the queen bee’s wings so that she can’t leave the colony or to have her artificially inseminated on a bee-sized version of the factory farm "rape rack." When the keeper wants to move a queen to a new colony, she is carried with "bodyguard" bees, all of whom—if they survive transport—will be killed by bees in the new colony. Large commercial operations may also take all the honey instead of leaving the 60 pounds or so that bees need to get through the winter. They replace the rich honey with a cheap sugar substitute that is not as fortifying. In colder areas, if the keepers consider it too costly to keep the bees alive through the winter, they destroy the hives by pouring gasoline on them and setting them on fire. Also, bees are often killed or have their wings and legs torn off by haphazard handling. According to the Cook-DuPage Beekeepers Association, humans have been using honey since about 15,000 B.C., but it wasn’t until the 20th century that people turned bees into factory-farmed animals. Happily, many sweeteners are made without killing bees: Rice syrup, molasses, sorghum, Sucanat, barley malt, maple syrup, cane sugar, and dried fruit or fruit concentrates can replace honey in recipes. Using these will keep your diet bee-free.

i dunno. being mean to bees seems kinda on par with swatting flies in my opinion.

i don't kill bugs. why do they have more of a right to live than me? if i was a vegan, i'm sure i'd feel the same way about honey. then again you have to choose a point. what about all the poor yeasts that die. :(

I still don't understand vegans.

Oh well.

Is it possible to make honey without the use of bees? I have always wondered that. If we can send a man to the moon we should be able to find a way to make honey.

PETA can suck me.

even if i did eat meat, i dont use honey, bee spit is not my thing,

Correct. What's the difference between killing bees and killing a cockroach?

:rofl:

What about all those poor bacteria and viruses that our bodies kill everyday? Don't they have rights too?

MMM.......honey baked ham

hahahahahah

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fuck.

Most of the vegans I know eat honey. Their reasoning is like...there's no such thing as cruelty to bees, because bees are too insignificant to feel pain or something. (Read: "I want some baklava. Screw this vegan shit.")

But I know you technically can't be a member of like, The Official Worldwide Vegan Organisation of Our Blessed Mother Soy Extract if you eat honey. So apparently honey is off-limits to TR00 V3G4n5.

(I know this because it says so in the front of my vegan cookbook. Why do I have a vegan cookbook? Don't ask me. I eat red meat. Raw on occasion. :mad: I guess I figured, I'm from Boulder. I oughta know how to cook something that more than 55% of my friends can eat. I tried it for a week, just to see. It actually wasn't that bad. Except the cheese. Vegan 'cheese' is the epitome of Tastes Like Ass.)

And that's all I have to say about that.