Dare I ask the demos of where you moved?

Oh nvm saw my rep comment from your wife.

Sorry dude she sucks. Always has.

Like literally everyone is in agreement on this. How does she not get it

You keep accusing me of telling "non-white" people how to act. I am not doing this thing you are accusing me of.

And as a woman, I can and will speak to whatever women's issues that affect me.

do you realize how fucking transphobic you sound even saying that?

you're approaching TOC level trolling here

if you can't get it through your fat skull that calling out your white thing of speaking for and at marginalized groups is not transphobic, then i don't know what to tell you besides you're an white idiot who can't take criticism.

it's one thing to speak about women's issues and quite another to suddenly think you can go around judging the actions of others (women and non-white people) to say they'd behave a certain way if they truly cared about disadvantaged people. that's your whiteness shining through.

why are you being so anti-mexican right now, gosh? :rolleyes:

yeah you're a star at taking criticism

This is what a typical exchange with Soy is like on this board:


And that's just page 2... almost 50 pages later in this same thread nothings changed.

I haven't blamed POC for Trump. I haven't told any other marginalized group what to do. Not even the maginalized group i am part of. But over and over Soy keeps attacking me.

Nobody buys this schtick.

trans awareness day tomorrow will be free of y s e m lol

37 Trans People have been murdered here in the USA so far this year.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/violen...munity-in-2020

She only gives a shit about herself. I think we’ve all always known that.

If I were still an admin she’d be banned.

Also her husband won’t even defend her here beyond saying they moved. Pretty telling!

Looks like you got your wish

It's a bit off to try and drag Tim and/or Tom into it, though, isn't it?

To be fair, I guess he did post voluntarily in response to that bizarre neighborhood comment that I still don't understand on any level.

he posted out of his free will though.

agree about the neighborhood comment, I was hoping there would be some sort of follow-up that made everything clear.

me so honky.

ass honkie?

ass hockey.

When did JKR get here?

Back on topic, does anyone have a creeping sense of unease at what Trump is planning? He just invited Michigan Republicans to the WH.

He's enacting a pressure campaign to get Republican-controlled legislatures to appoint electors loyal to himself and not who people actually voted for.

he's looking for all the weak points in the election system. County and state election boards are political appointees. I'm not surprised he's going after these people, who are typically local party nut jobs. These are the people he's been calling on the phone and putting pressure on to refuse to certify ballots. If he fails at this now, in 4 or 8 years he or some other republican will be better prepared and they'll engage in an even worse effort to sabotage the election.

Any half competent fascist would have planned this out in advance and positioned their own sycophants in these county party positions to control the certification of the vote. But he doesn't seem to see that many steps ahead and is scrambling now. I guess that's good for us that he's wildly incompetent when he needs a specific outcome.

The good thing is that the courts haven't indulged any of his ridiculous lawsuits.

Does he have any chance of succeeding?

He doesn't even need to have GOP legislatures appoint competing electors. All he has to do is stop the certification of ballot counts in a half dozen or so counties in 3 states... and then he either wins those states or the election gets sent to the House of Representatives and the Republican party will elect him President again

yes. it's very slim. but he does

if the election were to go to Congress, the House would choose the president (Biden), and the Senate would get to choose a Republican VP, right?

I brought this up earlier in the thread when I was making wild electoral predictions and found there was an outside chance Trump and Biden could have tied electorally which is one way the election goes straight to Congress

This whole complicated system is a remnant of slavery and the desire of plantation owners to retain local control of national elections.

I doubt more than 50% of Americans even really understand how the Electoral system works. Or that local officials appointed by both Parties are the ones certifying and controlling the elections

No.

They would choose Trump.

Because in a House vote for President each state delegation gets a single vote. And Republicans control the majority of State delegations, even though they are a minority of total house members

It would be something like a 26 to 24 vote in favor of Trump.

part of the disaster of Dems losing house seats is that they needed to gain them so if the election went to the House they would control the outcome.

And the only reason Republicans control so many state delegations, is because in 2010 midterm they took control of half a dozen more State legislatures, which in turn drew new Federal Congressional districts, therefore gerrymandering STates like Wisconsin and Michigan so that Democrats would not be able to win a majority of the House or State delegations, even though Dems tend to get more votes in those States.

If Trump manages to stay in office in this scenario it will be because the Koch Bros. funded a $1billion campaign to take over State legislatures in the 2010 election. They viewed State level districting as the key to controlling the Federal government

The 2020 election results are now in the hands of probably less than 12 appointed local Republican elections board officials in 3 states. And all they need to do is refuse to certify ballots in a couple of counties

Hmmm appears trump has been talking specifically and repeatedly at his rallies about the congressional outcome “where we have the advantage.”

The comical business of Rudy’s Total Four Seasons Press Conferences could very well be a sideshow for the media and the fans. My feeling is that, meanwhile, some very sharp constitutional lawyers with arcane knowledge of the dark arts have been working very hard for a very long time to send the election to the house if trump failed the vote

Today i want to leave this country more than i ever have in my life. But we are trapped here for now

The republicans fucked us, and i will never forgive them for this

Four years ago, if somebody had told me that a U.S. president who lost an election would be making multiple efforts to overturn its results and maintain power, I'd had said that that's nice, but that the United States is a consolidated democracy with multiple layers of institutions to prevent such an effort from being anything more than a joke, as well as a political culture that includes "loser's consent," the idea that citizens have enough respect for the political process and value stability enough that, even if they utterly despise the ruling party and are beligerently vocal about it (which has been increasingly common in the U.S. for the past few decades, as partisanship increases), they recognize that party as legitimate.

Even though I still think Trump is unlikely to be successful and that Biden will be the next president, I can't rule out the alternative as outside the realm of possibility anymore. I've always been critical of U.S. democracy, but more in the sense that representatives tend to represent monied interests over their constituents', rather than in the sense that armed goons might stake out polling stations if they suspect citizens of voting for the "wrong" party, politicians might try to throw out huge numbers of inconvenient votes, and the president might try to use his position to prevent a transfer of power. The United States' democracy is starting to look more like a Mozambique's or something.

When Michael Moore said in 2016 that if Trump won, he'd be the "last U.S president," I thought it was just a case of a liberal pundit being hyperbolic. It doesn't sound so absurd anymore.

It’s like when they should have listened to ian malcolm

You put a dino in a cage and think you can just laugh at it until it dies. But then dennis nedry has the can of barbasol and puts the electoral votes in there

It's beyond horrifying when we all turn to John Bolton as the voice of reason

Bolton is warning everyone that this is escalating within the republican party

how about none of you talk about me because you don't know anything. i don't need to speak for my wife and nobody's begging Caine Walker to pop in in Eulogy's defense. so fuck off, all of you.

myoneandonly has always been a blowhard on this board. this is what we ought to be discussing.