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smashingjj 11-02-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ovary (Post 4564270)
tensions running high. get into work hanging in office waiting for boss woman to come tell me what to do some old fucking dude vendor shows up wants to talk to her whatever, its cold, come into office to wait for her but please put on a mask. this fucker comes in launches into an antimask monologue about fauci is a conman masks make you sicker its a communist plot blah blah at first im like ok lets talk bro but he just keeps fucking ranting eventually i get mad i say that is a bunch of bullshit he says what i say everything you just said so then my boss comes in and places her body in between us and he turns on a dime into mr polite salesman and sells her a bunch of fucking HAND SANITIZER. HE IS OUR SOAP AND HAND SANITIZER VENDOR.

so whatever he leaves i left work early and my coworker texts me and says hey you remember that guy he came back to apologize to you says he was real out of line and that's not who he is and he's sorry.

living in trump country that is the biggest mindfuck of this whole thing. the trumpers are always the nicest most community minded, generous old dudes. this farmer i know is genuine bffs with all of his black customers then he goes on facebook and shares the most fucked up shit. fox news just grabs these guys by the balls and drags them around i guess. idfk

wtf

I still like to say how glad I am to not be living in America but shit is definitely getting weird here too

MyOneAndOnly 11-02-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ovary (Post 4564270)
living in trump country that is the biggest mindfuck of this whole thing. the trumpers are always the nicest most community minded, generous old dudes. this farmer i know is genuine bffs with all of his black customers then he goes on facebook and shares the most fucked up shit. fox news just grabs these guys by the balls and drags them around i guess. idfk

Lots of Nazis and Slave owners were "nice people". Evil is often banal. Just because some white guy smiles and is polite to customers at work, doesn't mean he wouldn't support Jim Crow, or help put is neighbors on a train car to genocide.

MyOneAndOnly 11-02-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj (Post 4564279)
wtf

I still like to say how glad I am to not be living in America but shit is definitely getting weird here too

COVID has made leaving the USA nearly impossible.

Shadaloo 11-03-2020 12:12 PM

Good luck out there today people

Run To Me 11-03-2020 12:54 PM

Big line even in my little neighborhood here today. A bit surprised, most of these are older folks that live around here, figured they’d have done absentee by now

Will have to try again later, didn’t have time to do the line. Wonder if it’ll die down by like middle afternoon that sweetspot b/w lunchour and the rushour

yo soy el mejor 11-03-2020 01:21 PM

i don't own a vehicle but i'm not too keen on walking lately cause people have been driving all around town shooting pedestrians and bicyclists with paintballs. usually just happens around halloween but it started way earlier this year. my neighbor said they got her and had her crawling away on her knees. tom got got once-he started his phone-call with I GOT SHOT and my heart dropped to my belly button. i've heard some people have been seriously injured from getting hit in the eyes and face and junk. i worry for tommy when he rides his bike.

my worst fear come true. i grew up in a neighborhood with gang violence and i guess i was taught to fear random violence cause i heard stories about gang initiations and whatnot. when i got to be a tween and teen, i would sometimes brace my back to be shot if a vehicle was riding up behind me too fast or too slow.

gonna get some groceries soon (not a doomsday stock-up, but we need bread and junk) from the only store within a mile radius because it got looted when shit when down last time. good thing we can walk down some alleys part of the way.

yo soy el mejor 11-03-2020 01:23 PM

got a school down the block that's a polling place. interested to see the crowds there as it's never ever crowded during any election.

Cool As Ice Cream 11-03-2020 04:51 PM

one should avoid the alleys. they are a trap.

HereIsNoWhy4U 11-04-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4564281)
Just because some white guy smiles and is polite to customers at work, doesn't mean he wouldn't support Jim Crow, or help put is neighbors on a train car to genocide.

Wait, but you're white

killtrocity 11-04-2020 03:09 PM

All A are B
Not all B are A

FlamingGlobes 11-04-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 4564362)
one should avoid the alleys. they are a trap.

I think you meant to say 'allies'.

yo soy el mejor 11-04-2020 07:25 PM

just because honksters like m1a0 use 'karen' as insult and anoint themselves as allies (y'all make up your own nicknames, too, amirite?) doesn't mean they wouldn't enthusiastically vote for milquetoast racists and tell marginalized people how they should vote and behave.

yo soy el mejor 11-04-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4564475)
I think you meant to say 'allies'.

yep yep yep

butthurt 11-05-2020 02:06 AM

I think it’s actually quite clever how Trump sowed the seeds of doubt prior to the election. If he loses, he can protect his fragile ego by sticking to his claims of election fraud. He will claim to his dying day that he actually won, and that the election was stolen from him. “See! I told you so!”

yo soy el mejor 11-05-2020 08:59 AM

Do not go gentle into that good night, Donald

MyOneAndOnly 11-05-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4564491)
just because honksters like m1a0 use 'karen' as insult and anoint themselves as allies (y'all make up your own nicknames, too, amirite?) doesn't mean they wouldn't enthusiastically vote for milquetoast racists and tell marginalized people how they should vote and behave.

can you explain to us all how trans people are not marginalized? I'm sure everyone would like to understand how your behavior happens to intersect so often in here with what I hear transphobes, TERFs and trump supporters say every day.

killtrocity 11-05-2020 04:00 PM

Days until Republicans start caring about the deficit: 77

FlamingGlobes 11-05-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4564492)
yep yep yep

Teehee. I was making a corny joke. Wasn't being serious or trying to make a statement.

FlamingGlobes 11-05-2020 04:44 PM

Glad to have kicked off another yo soy milkshake of arguments, though.

ovary 11-05-2020 05:22 PM

yo soy milkshake

FlamingGlobes 11-05-2020 05:39 PM

Brings all the roes to the yard.

yo soy el mejor 11-05-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4564543)
can you explain to us all how trans people are not marginalized? I'm sure everyone would like to understand how your behavior happens to intersect so often in here with what I hear transphobes, TERFs and trump supporters say every day.

hush with that mess. you act like such a victimized soul when i just point out your lameness for insinuating you're incapable of being a tone-deaf privileged honkie. you say it's because i am transphobic because that's part of your new shtick. no one ever accuses me of being scared of jewish boys when i say similar things to rbg.

honestly though, just because you use 'karen' as insult and anoint yourself an ally (or "antifi"...v hardcore lol) does not mean you wouldn't tell non-white marginalized groups what to believe and how to vote. cause you have. your white supremacy lives on.

killtrocity 11-07-2020 04:56 PM

Trump booked the wrong Four Seasons
https://mobile.twitter.com/_RichardH...773132803?s=19

MyOneAndOnly 11-10-2020 03:42 PM

What if Trump and his appointees refuse to leave office?

Trump's administration is refusing to cooperate with the transition process. Republicans in congress are backing Trump. The electoral college votes on 12/14. I suspect things will start falling apart for Trump after that date. But I'm worried that the Biden team will have no coordination with the outgoing administration prior to Jan 20.

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The General Services Administration, headed by Trump appointee Emily Murphy, has resisted signing the paperwork that would give Biden and his team access to millions of dollars in transitions funds, as well as official access to government officials and equipment to prepare the incoming administration, according to The Washington Post.

Until Murphy formally ascertains that Biden has won the election, the former vice president cannot access government funds or communicate with federal agencies. Biden’s team, for example, cannot receive the same intelligence briefings as Trump because of the GSA’s refusal to sign off on the election results. Acknowledging Biden’s victory would also grant his team access to $9.9 million for salaries and spending up to the inauguration.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b64c88d40422d1

killtrocity 11-10-2020 04:41 PM

This is something to be mindful of: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector, but is extremely rare in US history. Of course these aren't random events, so the rarity is perhaps irrelevant, but the power required to stage such an event rests largely with state governors as I understand it. None of the governors of the relevant swing states would be on board with such a blatant power grab.

And that's not even getting into the fact that deep down, Democrats and Republicans prioritize propagating the system which keeps them in power while keeping out third parties. The SCOTUS is already signaling that they won't overturn the ACA, because guess what? Without that carrot to dangle in front of their people, attention turns toward the true master, which is the system itself, rather than the Democratic wing of the party. How do you mobilize the base once abortion is banned and the ACA is gone? You know who benefits from the ACA? The health insurance industry. Not to trivialize the 10+ million who gained insurance because of it, but remember that it was modeled after Romneycare, the archetypal vulture capitalist robber barron of Bain Capital. (nice semiotics on that company, JFC)

All of this is to say that such a blatant subversion of the electoral process would shake faith in both D's and R's, and neither side really wants that. Although I'm sure some of the Trump cultists in power truly do want it, and the populist masses disenfranchised by neoliberalism who have been duped by the Trump cult MOST DEFINITELY want it.

The people who are fighting hardest to steal the election via William Barr are essentially carrying out a Hail Mary before Biden's camp gets in and sees where all the bodies are buried. It's not speculative at all to point out that multiple folks at the highest levels of the Trump administration are overtly involved in high crimes which have only avoided prosecution due to the fact that the executive branch enforces laws, and the POTUS is ultimately at the top of that pyramid.

Now this part is speculative, but watch closely for anyone who continues to fight hard for such a steal, as it's a good indicator that they're implicated in some way. Obviously the whole Trump family, Bill Barr, but also Mitch McConnell and his wife had those sweetheart deals in Kentucky (Google it) and has personally benefitted immensely through the Trump admin via means of questionable legality. Lindsay Graham is another. To them that 5% chance of actually pulling off a steal is worth the damage it would cause to the establishment because it means they avoid a lifetime mired in legal battles and possible prison time. They got Capone for tax fraud.

To answer your question, the smoothness of the transition is not of great consequence. The Constitution is quite explicit about the transfer of power, and there's no objective basis for overturning the election. There are other potential Hail Mary plays but all are so brazen and potentially tantamount to treason that their likelihood of occurance seems improbable to me. Again emphasizing that the true masters actually quite enjoy the current system and shaking it up is not in their interests. George W Bush is on board with the Biden camp.

MyOneAndOnly 11-10-2020 05:26 PM

I don't think the faithless electors will be the issue. I think they're going to try to ensure that somehow there won't be enough electors present on 12/14 to give Biden 270 votes. Until a State certifies it's vote, the electors remain unassigned. If either Pennsylvania or Nevada/Arizona certify a Biden win it's all over for the college. But if Trump is able to delay or muck up those state's certification through the courts, or through some kind of intervention by those states' GOP controlled governments, he would have an outside chance of throwing it to the House

Run To Me 11-10-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4555523)
Predict how America ends!

I say Biden wins by 10-15 million votes (which doesn't mean much if he doesn't win majority of Electors). But Trump's party uses Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida state legislatures (which they control due to radical gerrymandering) to throw out Biden win and instead send Trump electors to the Electoral College. Several states will have inconclusive vote totals (because mail in ballots are lost or delayed) and Trump will proclaim them all to be fraud.

Second prediction is that Barr will order the arrest of Biden and maybe Obama and Hillary in October in hopes of turning voters back to Trump. None of them will stay in Jail. But it will wreak havoc in the days leading up to the election.




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Wow looks like u basically nailed it

Only off by a bit re Barr, but im sure if he could have found some pretext that would prevent later legal exposure for himself, he would have done it, hes such a lapdog

MyOneAndOnly 11-10-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Run To Me (Post 4565084)
Wow looks like u basically nailed it

Only off by a bit re Barr, but im sure if he could have found some pretext that would prevent later legal exposure for himself, he would have done it, hes such a lapdog

Trump did demand that he arrest Biden. Barr refused.

I was wrong about faithless electors, though. I wasn't up to speed on the recent SCOTUS ruling

MyOneAndOnly 11-10-2020 09:56 PM

Trump is rushing to put loyalists in control of the military so they don't throw him out on Jan 20.



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/penta...b6f21920e01c3d

Eulogy 11-11-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4564615)
hush with that mess. you act like such a victimized soul when i just point out your lameness for insinuating you're incapable of being a tone-deaf privileged honkie. you say it's because i am transphobic because that's part of your new shtick. no one ever accuses me of being scared of jewish boys when i say similar things to rbg.

honestly though, just because you use 'karen' as insult and anoint yourself an ally (or "antifi"...v hardcore lol) does not mean you wouldn't tell non-white marginalized groups what to believe and how to vote. cause you have. your white supremacy lives on.

Your obsession with her is truly, truly bizarre.


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