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buzzard 09-07-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558552)
Sweden dipping to nearly nil



Now, are you absolutely sure this isn't more of that classic ninsp trolling?

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 4558553)
Please explain to me why the shape of Sweden's projection is so similar to that of Denmark's and to the combined Europe/Asia if they alone achieved herd immunity.

We can see how they're trending on the graph you effectively linked to, so there's really no need for you to invent data. Just explain what we're looking at and how it doesn't run contrary to your assertion.

That per Worldometers Denmark is on an exponential spike and Sweden is dropping rapidly? Unless you caught it incredibly early and are willing to lockdown and violate rights of millions of people repeatedly at the first catch of infection (like Melbourne) it’s impossible to contain the virus, it’s too contagious

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:30 PM

You do realize Denmark is just about the only country with a lower death rate than Sweden, right? They did it right, but once the cat’s out of the bag, lockdown just prolongs the inevitable as literally every country on earth has learned and why nobody besides NZ/Aus, believes in lockdowns anymore, just managed social distancing

buzzard 09-07-2020 10:30 PM

We are looking at a graph of the data you linked to and it is the opposite of what you're saying.

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:35 PM

Not talking about overall deaths, talking about daily new cases where Sweden is low and Denmark is exponential

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:40 PM

Even NZ notices Sweden’s success
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12362489

buzzard 09-07-2020 10:41 PM

Oh, I see. You're planning to pick cherries until the ego is comforted.

Never mind the fact that Sweden is unlikely to both achieve herd immunity in August and produce a projection looking anything like that.

buzzard 09-07-2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558560)

This is hard to watch.


ninsp 09-07-2020 10:44 PM

Except scientists now believe that herd immunity for COVID is around 40% and Sweden is around 30% right now

Keep trying you’re doing great

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:45 PM

As Tegnell said, Sweden will be back to normal by Christmas
Enjoy your lockdown, dipshit

Sweden trusted its citizens, nobody else did

ninsp 09-07-2020 10:45 PM

I hope you get COVID and die alone without anyone around

buzzard 09-07-2020 10:55 PM

Oh, so scientists also don't believe Sweden achieved herd immunity in mid-July, August, or now?

MyOneAndOnly 09-07-2020 11:20 PM

unfortunately, this dumb ass is typical of Trump voters and conservatives in general.

smashingjj 09-08-2020 04:55 AM

or...americans?

smashingjj 09-08-2020 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558565)
I hope you get COVID and die alone without anyone around

first good point you made!

ninsp 09-08-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4558570)
unfortunately, this dumb ass is typical of Trump voters and conservatives in general.

Democrat (more like socialist tbh) buddy
Try again

ovary 09-08-2020 08:40 AM

NPR had some Sweedish journalist on yesterday. He said their infections and deaths are way down and they don't really know why.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/04/90979...-is-it-working

I think it's clear by now that the total lockdowns did a lot of unnecessary damage. Many areas have reduced spikes just by being more diligent about social distancing. But hindsight is always 2020. In March we didn't know very much about the virus at all.

smashingjj 09-08-2020 08:54 AM

hindsight is very 2020 indeed

:beatup:

yo soy el mejor 09-08-2020 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558559)
Not talking about overall deaths, talking about daily new cases where Sweden is low and Denmark is exponential


Squish Squash 09-08-2020 09:24 AM

Ninsp really needs to stop watching YouTube conspiracy videos

ninsp 09-08-2020 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovary (Post 4558584)
NPR had some Sweedish journalist on yesterday. He said their infections and deaths are way down and they don't really know why.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/04/90979...-is-it-working

I think it's clear by now that the total lockdowns did a lot of unnecessary damage. Many areas have reduced spikes just by being more diligent about social distancing. But hindsight is always 2020. In March we didn't know very much about the virus at all.

They are down because they
1.) Paid people to stay home
2.) Didn’t destroy people’s livelihoods by imposing draconian authoritarian lockdowns that we now know do nothing
3.) Protected the most vulnerable and hit herd

ninsp 09-08-2020 10:28 AM

That’s how you beat COVID. Lockdowns unless you catch it immediately like NZ and can isolate yourself from the world, just push your inevitable spike out a few more weeks, no matter what you do

For us to have had success against COVID we would’ve had to have a stringent lockdown in January (when all the mysterious pneumonia cases started appearing) with military to enforce it which would have gone poorly here. We’d have to test every single person coming in overseas with rapid test COVID tests and we don’t have the infrastructure for that.

MyOneAndOnly 09-08-2020 10:49 AM

it's like you're a genius or something.

MyOneAndOnly 09-08-2020 10:55 AM

2/27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558596)
I don’t understand how this is worse than the flu unless China is lying to us


ninsp 09-08-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4558598)
2/27

China was lying to us, correct? Your point? Fauci also said we didn’t need masks in March. That’s the beauty of science and novel viruses, we are always learning.

yo soy el mejor 09-08-2020 01:22 PM

AND THAT'S HOW U BEAT COVID

...LOTS OF HINDSIGHT

ninsp 09-08-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4558607)
AND THAT'S HOW U BEAT COVID

...LOTS OF HINDSIGHT

Yup, because it’s a novel virus and everyone was shooting in the dark and followed the CCP’s lead.

yo soy el mejor 09-08-2020 02:56 PM

HOLD THE PRESSES

MyOneAndOnly 09-08-2020 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558605)
China was lying to us, correct? Your point? Fauci also said we didn’t need masks in March. That’s the beauty of science and novel viruses, we are always learning.

everyone learning except you

MyOneAndOnly 09-08-2020 03:37 PM

By the end of February I was quarantined at home because i had possible exposure to the virus.

Everyone knew at that point WTF was happening

Everyone except you, apparently


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