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hnibos 08-27-2020 07:48 AM

Is myoneandonly someone I know?

MyOneAndOnly 08-27-2020 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4556875)
you've only identified as a woman for a ~year yet speak as if you have a lifetime of experience being oppressed as one. furthermore, you speak as if you know MORE about women actually go through than other women who don't have your privileges that you had then and now

:erm:

The JK Rowling of Netphoria

You have no idea what my experiences have been (and I don't know yours). I have 20k+ posts you can criticize and disagree with, but you have to question my gender.

MyOneAndOnly 08-27-2020 08:57 AM

One of the consistent arguments all TERFs make is that Trans women aren't real women because they lived part of their lives socialized under another gender. It doesn't matter how long it is. It will always not be enough.

This always leads to "trans women are actually men because they were socialized as men"

and from that..

"Trans women are dangerous because some men are predators and accepting trans women as women allows them to infiltrate female only spaces and co-op or attack women"

There's usually a caveat for trans men that's something like "Trans men are just butch women who are deluded by the promise of male privilege"... or some other version of this. The key being though that it's the fault of men that trans men are questioning their gender.

yo so el mejor eludes to and makes this first argument because she can't seem to let it go. If she wasn't a TERF she'd just call me a Karen. But she can't stop there, because her root argument isn't about me being a privileged white woman. It's about my gender identity.

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4556891)
Lol you’re a TERF too ahahahahahaha

A trans woman has always been a woman dipshit

a woman dipshit? you mean, like, emotionally, scientifically, religiously, or physically?

m1&only has always been a pretentious dipshit, for sure; that never stopped.

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4556949)
:erm:

The JK Rowling of Netphoria

You have no idea what my experiences have been (and I don't know yours). I have 20k+ posts you can criticize and disagree with, but you have to question my gender.

i don't question your identity. but you've certainly brought along your past privilege to believe you can speak for all women and dismiss that maybe survivors of sexual assault do not want to vote for biden and should not be questioned or judged (for not voting or going 3rd party)

your response to this:
Quote:

i got a ? would anyone tell tara reade (or any woman who simply refuses to vote for a sexual predator ) to quit belly-achin' and pick the less evil of the men who both represent the person who harmed her? what would you say to women for whom it would be traumatic to vote for either one? they get a pass from you or what? oh arbiters of voting
is this:
Quote:

Almost all the women I know have been assaulted at some point in their lives, including me.
Everyone I now consider a friend or family is voting for Biden.
so, of course:
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you've only identified as a woman for a ~year yet speak as if you have a lifetime of experience being oppressed as one. furthermore, you speak as if you know MORE about women actually go through than other women who don't have your privileges that you had then and now
that does not question your identity. this feigned outrage of yours now that willfully misses the point must be part of the cliche personality traits you've adopted (that's your shtick, i guess)

Squish Squash 08-27-2020 09:47 AM

Playing devil’s advocate here, I wouldn’t call Y S E M a Terf for her comment. She never said MOAO isn’t a woman (a TERF would say this), I think Y S E M meant that her experience was different than someone assigned female at birth, which is true.

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 09:54 AM

well, as a woman of color, it sure is insulting to see a person who grew up with white privilege suddenly start using words like solidarity and pretending to be political and then equating their experiences to mine and people who like me and then have the gall to call me a "fascist" and other hallow names for saying hey wait a fucking minute

Squish Squash 08-27-2020 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squish Squash (Post 4556832)
I am very sorry that happened to you, but you do understand why some people are unwilling to vote for Biden based on this, yes? I am not including myself in this as I have no sexual trauma and am not a woman.

MOAO, you seriously negged me with the message “go fuck yourself” for THIS? How was anything about my above comment offensive?

LaBelle 08-27-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Squish Squash (Post 4556966)
Playing devil’s advocate here, I wouldn’t call Y S E M a Terf for her comment. She never said MOAO isn’t a woman (a TERF would say this), I think Y S E M meant that her experience was different than someone assigned female at birth, which is true.

Devils don't need no advocates

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 10:04 AM

then why you trying to speak for me, dumbo?!

Squish Squash 08-27-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LaBelle (Post 4556970)
Devils don't need no advocates

Then why are you all advocating for Joe Biden?

ninsp 08-27-2020 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4556967)
well, as a woman of color, it sure is insulting to see a person who grew up with white privilege suddenly start using words like solidarity and pretending to be political and then equating their experiences to mine and people who like me and then have the gall to call me a "fascist" and other hallow names for saying hey wait a fucking minute

Oppression olympics, go!

LaBelle 08-27-2020 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squish Squash (Post 4556981)
Then why are you all advocating for Joe Biden?

I'm not.

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 10:15 AM

okay, honkie

see, honkies only say that oppression olympics shit to marginalized people because it's fun for them to ridicule their experiences and pretend to own them in other instances

MyOneAndOnly 08-27-2020 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squish Squash (Post 4556966)
Playing devil’s advocate here, I wouldn’t call Y S E M a Terf for her comment. She never said MOAO isn’t a woman (a TERF would say this), I think Y S E M meant that her experience was different than someone assigned female at birth, which is true.

that's the same thing.

saying "you can't have valid opinions about women because you're not a full woman (for whatever reason)" is the same thing.

Like i said, call me a Karen or whatever for being white. But my gender is not the issue. She consistently uses my gender identity to attack me. It's not acceptable.

LaBelle 08-27-2020 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4556974)
then why you trying to speak for me, dumbo?!

Tell that to the guy who is making a real effort to trying to "prove" you're not just sticking your foot in your mouth.

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 10:19 AM

LaBelle doesn't even go to school here! Let her advocate for Joe Biden so long as she doesn't shame others who don't or act like she doesn't get it

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyOneAndOnly (Post 4556993)
that's the same thing.

saying "you can't have valid opinions about women because you're not a full woman (for whatever reason)" is the same thing.

Like i said, call me a Karen or whatever for being white. But my gender is not the issue. She consistently uses my gender identity to attack me. It's not acceptable.

no one said that, dumb-ass. but you just want to miss the point and blindly assume what you say could never be problematic and reek of privilege.

smashingjj 08-27-2020 11:24 AM

say, anyone wanna donate to the server?

Disco King 08-27-2020 01:08 PM

Sweet, thread is in full idpol mode now.

Disco King 08-27-2020 01:09 PM

Should I fight? Boy, I wanna fuckin' fight. Who's team am I on? *Rips off shirt*

ovary 08-27-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4556967)
well, as a woman of color

just say "dark person", we all know you're thinking it

Joey Goldberg 08-27-2020 04:04 PM

well at first it was a simple case of everyone vs Squish Squash but now it's divulged into sub-teams & sub-divisions on whether or not yer son eats meat is a "TERF" or not

very layered story developing for page 20 here!

Squish Squash 08-27-2020 04:09 PM

My son does not eat meat how dare you, Joseph

Joey Goldberg 08-27-2020 05:19 PM

shut the fuck up, Squishy!

yo soy el mejor 08-27-2020 06:37 PM

i see wut u did there, joey

Squish Squash 08-27-2020 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg (Post 4557091)
shut the fuck up, Squishy!

:rofl:

Eulogy 08-27-2020 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4556967)
well, as a woman of color, it sure is insulting to see a person who grew up with white privilege suddenly start using words like solidarity and pretending to be political and then equating their experiences to mine and people who like me and then have the gall to call me a "fascist" and other hallow names for saying hey wait a fucking minute

Ok like, I can see this point you’re trying to make *sort of,* but as a cishet you’ve had different kinds of privileges too. As a white male homo who “passed” or whatever for so long I was afforded tons of privilege, and I recognize that and do my best to understand what people who aren’t white men experience (while also recognizing I’ll never get it fully!) but holy shit can I begin to tell you about the sort of mental anguish and trauma that can cause?

It’s just not a really valid path to travel down imo.

Eulogy 08-27-2020 07:54 PM

Oh and I did not at all mean to imply I don’t still benefit from white male privilege. Def do quite a bit.

Eulogy 08-27-2020 08:06 PM

Also Jealous of ****’s potential ability to go to Panama but, that’s also a lot of coastline.


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