Does anybody [else] want to have a good faith conversation about any forthcoming political events of some significance?

We could discuss things such as realistic theories, i.e. the idea of Nikki Haley running in 2024 (if Biden were to win) as a sort of return to tradition move from the GOP after their seeing that alt-right populism only promises single term presidencies with chronically low approval ratings and limited policy achievements.

I think there is a good chance this happens. I think Larry Hogan will run as well.

Haley has positioned herself well for sure. She's a redneck whisperer and would help the remnants of the GOP to distance themselves from some of the nastier, public facing racist policies enacted under Trump by leaning into her ethnicity without alienating pragmatic racist votes that she'll need in a general. She's traditional TEA-stained GOP enough to pull back the rare and shy, few remaining true conservatives. And, her time at the UN provides distance and cover from the more salacious palace gossip while still affirming her as a good soldier for the party. All that, and she's disingenuous enough to morph into whatever the moment calls for.

She'll have to walk the tightrope between distancing herself from Trump in the face of continued revelations and not disavowing or god forbid criticizing and thus drawing his ire via twitter. Some portion of his base will remain dug in and bewilderedly looking for guidance. Not exactly revelatory, but I expect a lot of "I'm not here to talk about the past, I'm here to talk about the future..." out of her and any other Trumpworld survivors. I think by her own design, she stayed tucked away at the UN and away from most of the idiocy in the oval.

She's a contender for sure- but as it goes, she'll have to get a rose from a billionaire benefactor to get anywhere in what will surely be a clownshow primary.

Voting for Biden is supporting him, you goof. I’m not voting for Trump, I couldn’t live with myself if I did that. Again I am not certain my theory is right. The only thing I’m certain about is that Biden won’t fix the problems that plague America and the world. None of you have provided any evidence that suggests he will even begin to do so, either. Better than Trump isn’t good enough.

I’m the only person in this entire thread who has supported my claims with links, so this is an odd take. Re: your electoral college question, Can you really not figure out why AOC (assuming she’s the nominee) would win when she’s getting all the people like me who refuse to support neoliberals to actually vote for the Democratic ticket?

Yeah I thought Biden had it for awhile but the polls lately haven’t been encouraging. I’m pretty sure Trump is winning again. And RBG will blame it on Bernie again.

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You clearly do not belong to a class of people that can be affected by their rulings. I do. Pregnant women do. Trans people do.

So just stop.

Yeah but he is the only one with links!!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Eulogy again.

You recently linked to an article discussing Bernie's performance with young voters in a primary contest that he lost and it directly states that "also helping Biden was the fact that young people just aren’t turning out in the kind of numbers Sanders needed to be competitive in the delegate count." The subheading of the article is literally, "But young people aren’t turning out in enough numbers to turn the tide for Sanders."

It does not support your argument that Trump winning in 2020 will increase the likelihood of President Ocasio-Cortez in 2024. Statistics would suggest that the population of the United States is aging and you do not appear to have accounted for this at all, which is another reason why I keep suggesting that your claims lack support. They do and your own "evidence" contradicts you.

What else you got?

This article simply provides quotes from a single individual associated with the alt-right suggesting that incompetence has hamstrung the MAGA movement and also that Trump brought America too close to war with Iran for his tastes. He further adds that "[his] principles were never voting for the supposed 'the lesser [of] two evils,'" which is apparently an attitude Squish Squash has in common with a white supremacist.

It provides no support for Squish Squash's claim that Trump winning in 2020 will pave the way for Ocasio-Cortez in 2024.

This article discusses the removal by the DNC of a policy relating to ending subsidies for companies associated with fossil fuels, though it does point out that Biden maintains this policy himself.

It provides no support whatsoever for Squish Squash's claim that Trump winning in 2020 will assist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in any way where it regards the 2024 elections.

Anyone who thinks we will have a country in 2024 If Herr Trump get re-elected is a moron

This is an opinion piece written by a senior advisor and speechwriter to Bernie Sanders. It speculates that Biden will not follow through with much of the progressive policy that has been promised, pointing to the deficit left by tax cuts on top of the pandemic crisis and assurances made by Biden to Wall Street donors. It closes by suggesting that, "if Democrats win this election and 2020 is a repeat of 2009, then 2024 is going to be a repeat of 2016, only with a much smarter version of Trump winning the presidency."

In other words, Squish Squash has taken an opinion piece written by a Sanders employee and simply adopted its conclusion. It does not provide support for the contention that Trump winning in 2020 will help AOC win in 2024.

Did I miss any other bullshit articles that in no way support what Squish Squash is claiming about 2024 or was that it?

All you guys have is ad hominems and Elvis Presley is alive in Chile, therefore Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will become Queen of England in everywhere for all time.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/tall-tales...iving-in-chile

My gut tells me if Trump wins, we're obviously totally fucked as a country in the next 4 years. If Biden wins, the right would be triggered and antagonized to spawn someone even worse than Trump because they'll have a semblance of competence (Cotton, Carlson) and then we'd be totally fucked then too. Honestly, if you can, its best to just gtfo this shithole country asap before its too late. I know thats not possible for many (most) probably me included.

I know I'm jaded and getting old but I legit think its DELUSIONAL of anyone who thinks Sanders would win or AOC is going to win. Do yall not see how conservative of a country we live in? Americans by and large do not believe in spending taxpayer dollars to help the working class in any tangible way. Maybe people live in that echo chamber bubble. Idk.

Yes I'm in a swing state, I'll stand in line for hours to vote for Biden even if I just think its delaying the inevitable.

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i was thinking more like kankerlijers but yes agreed

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same thing

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Finally someone agrees with me about what will happen if Biden wins. I’m not crazy, I promise. Well, I am crazy, but not about politics.

I think I already said the 2024 theory is speculation (and tbh me being hopeful) on my part. Why am I the only person who has to provide links?

Nobody else has had to grasp that hard. Just give up, already. It's pathetic.

Wow, Squish. You sure are good at only seeing what you want to see.