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ella 07-21-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4513546)
this is the type of conversation i escape like death irl

I don’t know. I like to know how you ppl are doing, it makes me happy.

ella 07-21-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets (Post 4513559)
Also, hi ella.

Hey, hope you’re doing well and glad to see you’re still posting! How’d you find this place again? You were only 15 or so, my gosh. Ice skater right?

reprise85 07-21-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ella (Post 4513577)
Hey, hope you’re doing well and glad to see you’re still posting! How’d you find this place again? You were only 15 or so, my gosh. Ice skater right?

lol you totally have her mixed up

reprise85 07-21-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ella (Post 4513573)
Holy crap! You would make the best social worker seriously. What work are you doing from home? I was doing a work from home job for close to 5 years but I couldn’t handle the hours after having my second kid.

Congrats on the weight loss! 100 lbs is amazing but not as amazing as becoming a netphorian mod!!!!!!!

I have a job with a company that contracts for Google and we do search engine evaluation. Mostly you get actual searches and what algorithms think are good results/sets of results and rate them based on how helpful they are for general searches, ones on mobile, ones that might be looking for news, etc. There's other tasks also but that's the bulk of it.

In addition to that I'm doing a lot of freelance work on crowd source platforms like Amazon Mechanical Turk. People post tasks and you do them for $$$. All kinds of stuff. The work is easy but there's lots of stuff you have to learn to be able to outperform other people all vying for the same job, which is the hard part. And also finding stuff that's worth doing is hard at first. But I've been doing it since Oct and I have my bearings pretty well down. I do some other crowd source stuff but AMT is the one I do most.

And thanks about the social worker comment :)

ella 07-21-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4513579)
I have a job with a company that contracts for Google and we do search engine evaluation. Mostly you get actual searches and what algorithms think are good results/sets of results and rate them based on how helpful they are for general searches, ones on mobile, ones that might be looking for news, etc. There's other tasks also but that's the bulk of it.

In addition to that I'm doing a lot of freelance work on crowd source platforms like Amazon Mechanical Turk. People post tasks and you do them for $$$. All kinds of stuff. The work is easy but there's lots of stuff you have to learn to be able to outperform other people all vying for the same job, which is the hard part. And also finding stuff that's worth doing is hard at first. But I've been doing it since Oct and I have my bearings pretty well down. I do some other crowd source stuff but AMT is the one I do most.

And thanks about the social worker comment :)

I was a search engine evaluator! Through Lionbridge! I started back in September 2014 and resigned from the program this past March. I dabbled with Mturk until I got the position at Lionbridge. It was a really great wah gig... I really wish I could’ve stayed on but I just couldn’t continue to meet the hours. They said they would bring me back on next year if I contact them.

ilikeplanets 07-21-2019 05:54 PM

I'm not whoever you think I am, although I probably would have been better off as a 15 year old ice skater. I'm doing good though! :)

duovamp 07-21-2019 07:15 PM

Oh lord the ice skater saga. I hope she wasn’t emotionally scarred by this place.

smashingjj 07-21-2019 07:28 PM

That was a weird one. Didn't she have lots of videos or something

ella 07-21-2019 07:37 PM

So...for quite a number of years I thought that ilikeplanets was ice skater all grown up.... I almost don’t know what to do with this new information.

smashingjj 07-21-2019 08:01 PM

Don't believe this misinformation, ILP is indeed iceskater

reprise85 07-21-2019 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ella (Post 4513580)
I was a search engine evaluator! Through Lionbridge! I started back in September 2015 and resigned from the program this past March. I dabbled with Mturk until I got the position at Lionbridge. It was a really great wah gig... I really wish I could’ve stayed on but I just couldn’t continue to meet the hours. They said they would bring me back on next year if I contact them.

My job is with Appen but I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. I can work 15-26 hours for that per week, and I supplement with mTurk and some other stuff. Sometimes I'm able to do them together (on separate computers). Which they probably wouldn't like but I get good reviews and they don't pay enough and they tell you not to finish early so :shrug:

Honestly I'm getting some good qualified work on mTurk now, most of the time I'm just doing the minimum 15 at Appen. You can't count on mTurk the way you can with a "real job" like Appen and those 26 hours come in handy on slow weeks (like 4th of July week I maxed out). I do some other stuff also, if you ever want any tips let me know. mTurk has a high barrier to entry but some other stuff like usertesting.com is pretty low. But I mean it sounds like you're OK where you are, but if you ever want to set up anything that doesn't require the kind of investment of time in learning that mTurk does, there are other things for sure.

duovamp 07-21-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj (Post 4513588)
That was a weird one. Didn't she have lots of videos or something

She was a little girl who Yo Soy invited here. Maybe to feed to Alex. No clue what was happening here with that.

reprise85 07-21-2019 09:06 PM

I thought it was Warsaw but I guess Warsaw just got involved after. I def wasn't entrenched in the gen board at that time

duovamp 07-21-2019 09:09 PM

It was super weird. But comparatively when Bonnie showed up nobody batted an eye.

ella 07-21-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 4513599)
She was a little girl who Yo Soy invited here. Maybe to feed to Alex. No clue what was happening here with that.

....and then fast forward a few years, iceskater come back and starts posting under her new username iloveplanets.

ella 07-21-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4513596)
My job is with Appen but I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. I can work 15-26 hours for that per week, and I supplement with mTurk and some other stuff. Sometimes I'm able to do them together (on separate computers). Which they probably wouldn't like but I get good reviews and they don't pay enough and they tell you not to finish early so :shrug:

Honestly I'm getting some good qualified work on mTurk now, most of the time I'm just doing the minimum 15 at Appen. You can't count on mTurk the way you can with a "real job" like Appen and those 26 hours come in handy on slow weeks (like 4th of July week I maxed out). I do some other stuff also, if you ever want any tips let me know. mTurk has a high barrier to entry but some other stuff like usertesting.com is pretty low. But I mean it sounds like you're OK where you are, but if you ever want to set up anything that doesn't require the kind of investment of time in learning that mTurk does, there are other things for sure.

I’m pretty sure I’ve read that Appen is just slightly better than Lionbridge. I think it pays just a little bit more (I was getting 13.75/hr) and you get more hours. I had to work a minimum of 10 hrs and up to 20 per week, most weeks though they would send out an email saying that we were allowed to work up to 24 bc of the task availability. I know exactly what you mean about doing other stuff while working lol I did the same thing... most of my tasks were 9 minutes, but it would usually only take me 3 mins or less so for the remaining 6 mins or whatever I would run around getting stuff down around the house, cleaning etc. lol

I’m thinking once my youngest is around 8-9 months I’ll start looking into working online again. I’ll prob apply back at lionbridge, Appen and isoftstone and whoever gets back to me quickest is where I’ll go! When I did mturk it seemed like I was only making pennies.

yo soy el mejor 07-21-2019 10:05 PM

I posted a youtube video of a girl riding a unicycle and doing jump-rope tricks. Apparently on youtube you can see where your videos have been posted and she decided to check out netphoria. Y'all know this!

Shallowed 07-21-2019 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4513546)
this is the type of conversation i escape like death irl

Maybe it's because you don't have kids or (afaik) aren't married or in a long-term relationship.

slunken 07-22-2019 12:38 AM

The other night I went to a free gig, this was another avant-garde one featuring three drummers, one of whom I have performed with several times, including for my my own gig.

After the show, one of my art/music scene friends (the one that I trespassed on construction scaffolding with a while ago) dropped by for a while to discuss with one of the venue managers about a two-day long drone festival she's organising. Unfortunately I won't be able to perform because there are already as many artists on the bill that can be accommodated, but I can take photos, which will probably be the first gig since February that I'll be photographing with my DSLR.

I hung out with her for the night, planning to go back to hers, smoke weed, and crash on her couch, then we bumped into some friends of hers, who said they were going to do some nangs.

I think her weed might be pretty mellow, because I only got a mild to medium buzz on it, but it was very much appreciated all the same.

Cool As Ice Cream 07-22-2019 04:31 AM

Perhaps this is the most dynamic thing we have seen the Pumpkins do since Jimmy would come out and play guitar on 1979 or in the small clip during Mayonnaise in Vieuphoria where we see Billy playing drums and later he would play the timpani in 2008.

teh b0lly!!1 07-22-2019 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shallowed (Post 4513609)
Maybe it's because you don't have kids or (afaik) aren't married or in a long-term relationship.

(ydk)

FoolofaTook 07-22-2019 08:09 AM

At first I thought I sharted, but then it turned out that I hadn't.


Intrigued? Find out more here: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=187424


P.S. Comes with a finger-blasted Duovamp!

reprise85 07-22-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ella (Post 4513604)
I’m pretty sure I’ve read that Appen is just slightly better than Lionbridge. I think it pays just a little bit more (I was getting 13.75/hr) and you get more hours. I had to work a minimum of 10 hrs and up to 20 per week, most weeks though they would send out an email saying that we were allowed to work up to 24 bc of the task availability. I know exactly what you mean about doing other stuff while working lol I did the same thing... most of my tasks were 9 minutes, but it would usually only take me 3 mins or less so for the remaining 6 mins or whatever I would run around getting stuff down around the house, cleaning etc. lol

I’m thinking once my youngest is around 8-9 months I’ll start looking into working online again. I’ll prob apply back at lionbridge, Appen and isoftstone and whoever gets back to me quickest is where I’ll go! When I did mturk it seemed like I was only making pennies.

I don't get paid that much, but they have different standards for different states based on minimum wage (I think?), but I don't know where you are. I feel like I have to do other work to make it reasonable, because it isn't. I have an NDA so I don't want to say what I make, but it's enough to make it definitely not enough. To be clear it's a good amount more than minimum wage but increasing it to your pay would boost it significantly.

I'm good at mTurk. I usually make $200-$250 per week, sometimes much more, but I could probably make $500 without an issue at this point if I didn't have other work going on. As it is it's usually on the back burner as I do Appen until something really great pops up (which it usually does at least once a day for an hour or two, but not always). Basically you can tell how mTurk is based on how much Appen I work. The last two weeks have been really good and I've only done the min at Appen. I also have two extra monitors and some other stuff to make my workflow better. It's working out pretty well :) I've cultivated relationships with some requesters so I get some good closed projects.

ella 07-22-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4513638)
I don't get paid that much, but they have different standards for different states based on minimum wage (I think?), but I don't know where you are. I feel like I have to do other work to make it reasonable, because it isn't. I have an NDA so I don't want to say what I make, but it's enough to make it definitely not enough. To be clear it's a good amount more than minimum wage but increasing it to your pay would boost it significantly.

I'm good at mTurk. I usually make $200-$250 per week, sometimes much more, but I could probably make $500 without an issue at this point if I didn't have other work going on. As it is it's usually on the back burner as I do Appen until something really great pops up (which it usually does at least once a day for an hour or two, but not always). Basically you can tell how mTurk is based on how much Appen I work. The last two weeks have been really good and I've only done the min at Appen. I also have two extra monitors and some other stuff to make my workflow better. It's working out pretty well :) I've cultivated relationships with some requesters so I get some good closed projects.

That’s crazy you make that much with mturk! I remember reading that if you stay with it you can start making more and more bc they’ll start giving you access to more projects etc. Are you an employee at Appen or are you under w9? For the first two year with lionbridge they had all evaluators under w9s and then switched us all over as employees, that was nice bc then we started getting paid for all of our training and webinars.

Mals Marola 07-22-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4513635)
At first I thought I sharted, but then it turned out that I hadn't.


Intrigued? Find out more here: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=187424


P.S. Comes with a finger-blasted Duovamp!

logically, we all understand the argument that you need to construct a certain type of headline in order to get attention and generate advertising revenue. the counter argument of course is that standards for quality or integrity might be more important than competing in a race to the lowest common denominator for the attention span of internet-faring humans

i mean, i guess on the one hand it's not really fair to judge the way someone makes a living. but on the other hand... took farted in the woods. that's objectively not the same thing as being sharted through by a spirit.

right?

i don't know, what do i know.

FoolofaTook 07-22-2019 11:30 AM

pls mals

FoolofaTook 07-22-2019 11:30 AM

(mals pls)

Shallowed 07-22-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4513631)
(ydk)

This sould stand for "you do know" or "you don't know"

But yeah I think I do know since our girlfriends broke up with us about the same time. Maybe their periods were in sync or something.

Cool As Ice Cream 07-22-2019 04:37 PM

lololo period

Mals Marola 07-22-2019 05:39 PM


yo soy el mejor 07-22-2019 05:40 PM

ew @ boys who think someone broke up with them because of their periods

look in the mirror, dawg. and then get a clue and quit saying sexist shit.

duovamp 07-22-2019 06:46 PM

My last gf dumped me because I had my boiperiod on her birthday. :[

Shallowed 07-22-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor (Post 4513675)
ew @ boys who think someone broke up with them because of their periods

look in the mirror, dawg. and then get a clue and quit saying sexist shit.

Yes, that is literally what I literally think is the literal and rigid truth. Yes, the reason she broke up with me is definitely because I was sexist towards her, especially with regards to her periods.

Shallowed 07-22-2019 07:01 PM

Actually one of the reasons she broke up with me had to do with the division of labour in the household, which is pretty implicitly sexist. I was punished by the housemate gods for it when I moved into the only place I've lived where I had the highest standard of cleanliness.

FoolofaTook 07-22-2019 08:23 PM

Spiritual Self-Care Tips

“Rest and self-care are so important. When you take time to replenish your spirit, it allows you to serve others from the overflow. You cannot serve from an empty vessel.” ― Eleanor Brownn

Tips:

Imitate Jesus in making time with God a priority. "Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed." Mark 1:35 (Matt 14:23, Mk 6:46) Benefits: faith strengthened, focus shifted vertically, realization that God is bigger than anything you or I face.

Forgive yourself and forgive others. "Unforgiveness is like drinking poison yourself and waiting for the other person to die." Marianne Williamson "Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Colossians 3:13

Rest. Over scheduling creates burnout, which in turn keeps us from our God-given purpose. Take the time to rest. ""Then, because so many people were coming and going that they did not even have a chance to eat, he said to them, “Come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest.”" Mark 6:31

Relationship/Community. From the beginning of time, God made us to be in relationship with Himself and others. We are many members, but one body. Connect with people. "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another..." Hebrews 6:24-25
Choose Joy. Joy is a choice. We choose to focus on the negative or positive. "This is the day which the Lord has made; Let us rejoice and be glad in it." Psalms 118:24 NASB

Think Lovely Thoughts. What you think about matters greatly and affects your well-being. "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." Philippians 4:8

Gratitude. Try to find good in every situation and give God thanks. "Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus." I Thessalonians 5:16-18


Note: All scriptures are from the New International Version (NIV) unless otherwise noted.

reprise85 07-22-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ella (Post 4513640)
That’s crazy you make that much with mturk! I remember reading that if you stay with it you can start making more and more bc they’ll start giving you access to more projects etc. Are you an employee at Appen or are you under w9? For the first two year with lionbridge they had all evaluators under w9s and then switched us all over as employees, that was nice bc then we started getting paid for all of our training and webinars.

I'm an employee, yes. We get paid training but it's so little it's pretty laughable. They pretty much hand you a 190pg manual and throw you to the sharks.

mTurk, at least now, relies a lot on metrics (number of HITs done, acceptance %, etc) but also custom qualifications. Some of it is right place+right time, but people will post qualification HITs and give people they like access to more of them to do. I have some of these, none of them are amazing (high pay + post often), but there's enough there to make mTurk viable for sure. In fact I have an open invitation to get an unlimited amount of work (for a few months) for this one requester making about $13-14/hr but I kinda hate the work and it's very cognitively intensive and I can make that doing anything else, so I only committed 3-5 hours per week. That's an absolutely luxury on mTurk. But there are plenty of people who make a living on it for sure. If I didn't have a good backbone setup with Appen I definitely would do it. That's really the key, the Appen backbone. This way you're not always hustling for the next thing, at least not as desperately. I am putting him in contact with some mturk peeps I know.

Plus, even as I work on Appen, I at least have my scripts for mTurk going, so I can be in the right place at the right time more often. Gotta be around to get it. And I am part of a slack workgroup that helps each other. I've even done some very light scripting as well. Learning more. Turn bullshit work into viable money making by automating mouse clicks and such. Which is totally allowed as long as the script isn't actually doing the work for you (obviously).

vixnix 07-23-2019 05:29 AM

This online work sounds great and I wish I had discovered it before paying more money for yet more study, only to figure out that I’m too old for anyone to hire in an entry level position. Not sure if I could even do this stuff from NZ.

It really sounds great reprise and you sound like you’re doing really well. In my deep well of stagnant disappointment it is actually very comforting to know that things are picking up for you. Maybe the world can be a good place after all

reprise85 07-23-2019 10:14 AM

Thanks, vix. I'm glad too. Wish I was working in my field but working from home is a good second prize. It's a dead end, though, and I'm still not making what I should be for someone with a degree. But I can pay to live alone and take care of my basics, which is awesome.

topleybird 07-23-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4513685)
"Unforgiveness is like drinking poison yourself and waiting for the other person to die." Marianne Williamson

I think this may have more legs than last election's "Pokemon Go to the polls"

ella 07-23-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4513696)
I'm an employee, yes. We get paid training but it's so little it's pretty laughable. They pretty much hand you a 190pg manual and throw you to the sharks.

mTurk, at least now, relies a lot on metrics (number of HITs done, acceptance %, etc) but also custom qualifications. Some of it is right place+right time, but people will post qualification HITs and give people they like access to more of them to do. I have some of these, none of them are amazing (high pay + post often), but there's enough there to make mTurk viable for sure. In fact I have an open invitation to get an unlimited amount of work (for a few months) for this one requester making about $13-14/hr but I kinda hate the work and it's very cognitively intensive and I can make that doing anything else, so I only committed 3-5 hours per week. That's an absolutely luxury on mTurk. But there are plenty of people who make a living on it for sure. If I didn't have a good backbone setup with Appen I definitely would do it. That's really the key, the Appen backbone. This way you're not always hustling for the next thing, at least not as desperately. I am putting him in contact with some mturk peeps I know.

Plus, even as I work on Appen, I at least have my scripts for mTurk going, so I can be in the right place at the right time more often. Gotta be around to get it. And I am part of a slack workgroup that helps each other. I've even done some very light scripting as well. Learning more. Turn bullshit work into viable money making by automating mouse clicks and such. Which is totally allowed as long as the script isn't actually doing the work for you (obviously).

Mturk sounds so much better than I ever thought it could be. I mighty try it again, I could make a little side money until my baby is older! It’s so crazy that I couldn’t even get my 10 hrs a week at lionbridge...but I seriously couldn’t do it. I really didn’t want to resign! Now that he’s 5 months I’m just now finding some time for myself again where I could probably work about 10 hrs/wk.


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