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06-25-2018 06:03 AM |
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Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1
(Post 4444908)
ok so this is really about you necro'ing something vix may or may not have said whenever in the past on this terrible shithole of a forum notorious for turning nihilism into its motto, only to prove a point and defend the type of people who will order a child fuck doll on the internet in the process.
thanks for your contribution.
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Either you're being deliberately dim and misrepresenting what I said, or you're just too stupid to comprehend what I wrote. Either way, time to leave the conversation kid.
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Originally Posted by vixnix
(Post 4444909)
What constitutes acting on pedophilic ideation? Going to the beach or swimming pool to take photos, sharing photos that someone else took? Sharing photos of abuse?
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Yes, all of these things count. Anyone who does any of this things should go to jail for a significant stretch of time. Anyone who molests or rapes a child should go to jail for the remainder of their life. This is pretty straightforward stuff.
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Originally Posted by vixnix
(Post 4444909)
I find it hard to believe that all the men involved in the underage sex industry around the world are just poor men who have been abused themselves.
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Okay so your use of the wording "poor men" is so fucking loaded that it deserves addressing. Now I don't know if you're aware of this right but abusing and being abused is not a dichotomy. Some people - most people - who perpetrate abuse are or have been abuse victims themselves. This does not excuse their behaviour and it does not make them good people, it simply makes them both victims and perpetrators which most people would rather not think about given that it's not as black and white, and most people (fucking ESPECIALLY devout christians) don't want to think about the world in such terms. I know you'd really love to suggest that I have sympathy for the people who perpetrate the abuse of minors directly or indirectly, but i'm not letting that innuendo go through to the keeper.
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Originally Posted by vixnix
(Post 4444909)
Lots of people are abused. Hardly any of them go on to get kicks out of watching children being victimised by adults or participating in that victimisation.
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This is great because you've taken the two groups (victims of abuse and abusers) and you've made the first one as broad in scope as it could possibly be (literally anybody who has ever been the victim of any kind of abuse, be it sexual, physical, emotional etc at any stage in their lives) and you've made the second one as narrow in scope as you possibly could (people who participate in only one of the many different manifestations of pedophilic abuse) to try and make your point. If you look at the histories of people who perpetrate pedophilic abuse, i absofuckinglutely guarantee you that at the absolute very least 50% of them, if not significantly more, were abuse victims themselves, almost certainly in childhood. This is difficult data to collate but there are absolutely statistically demonstrable correlations in the localised research that has been done.
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Originally Posted by vixnix
(Post 4444909)
I’m happy to be wrong about this, and for there to be an answer other than the wood chipper. But yeah, a lot of these guys could be fed into the chipper and the world would be a better place, in my opinion. I still believe that.
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You're actually not happy to be wrong about this. Being wrong about this involves acknowledging that the people who perpetrate these awful behaviours aren't inhuman monsters, people innately different to your or I in any significant way, but rather that they're regular people engaging in evil behaviour as a result of any one of a number of conditionings that caused them to develop abnormally. Again, these are not excuses, they are reasons. But denying the obvious factors around these crimes that can be leveraged to identify and treat these individuals before they offend, thus protecting potential victims and helping alleviate the cycle because it makes you uncomfortable to humanise the perpetrators is plain old selfish privileged bullshit.
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