eh-edit nevermind, I didn't realize this is just a back-and-forth fuzzy educational thread.

jeremy spoke in class today

Indeed, ‘tis a strange conundrum.

Hey, you don't have mass shootings in your country because you don't have freedom. Never change the gun laws! Cause what would be next to give up, freedom of speech?

let's all just assume a raging political discussion took place and got malicious and that somebody got called a nazi. ok great now let's argue about which pumpkins record is the best or something

thoughts and prayers

ITT POST YOUR ASS SHOOTINGS

Re: everything that has been said, I don't think the mere presence of more guns in and of itself is making people go on shooting sprees. Obviously we can look at a country like Israel and tell that just because you have a lot of people holding weapons doesn't mean mass shootings are unavoidable. Yes, there are definitely cultural reasons why this is happening, and yeah, it would be great to address the root causes if we could figure them out.

HOWEVER, the NRA and the gun industry is so powerful in this country that they successfully lobbied Republicans in Congress to pass a ban on federal money for gun violence research in the 1990s. Yes, let's say it again for those in the back. IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE US GOVERNMENT TO RESEARCH GUN VIOLENCE. Republicans backed by the NRA are also the reason we have no universal background check, no way to stop people from being guns with no ID on the internet or at guns shows... so to try and separate the two parts of this issue shows a misunderstanding of what is going on with guns in the US.

The gun lobby has flooded our country with assault weapons, bought their own invulnerability via Republicans in Congress, and sponsored a decades long national legal push to overturn gun laws in every state. And then ON TOP of that, they then made it illegal for the government to research gun violence. It would be wonderful if we could figure out what specifically is fueling this behavior in the US, but right now the only research even being done is by private liberal groups. Furthermore, at least some of this trend can probably be attributed to a copycat effect (there is some evidence that when the media reports on suicides, it actually leads to a spike in attempted suicides. not the same, no, but behavior is contagious and there are good examples of viral criminal acts as well). Are tough gun laws going to fix the underlying cultural issues making people want to murder dozens of people? No. But if you are bleeding profusely you should probably stop the bleeding before you sit down and scratch your chin and wonder what the heck is goin on with all that blood

The gun lobby created this reality and we need to get them under control. We need commonsense gun laws that actually make it difficult to buy a firearm. We need a new assault weapons ban. Time and time again we hear that people would just get guns illegally and commit shootings, however nearly all mass shooters use legally purchased guns, so how could we even know that? It seems pretty likely that if buying a gun were very difficult, a lot of these antisocial whiteboy terrorists would not be able to get one.

POST YOU'RE ASS POOTINGS

LOLOLOLOL

It's funny how people who don't support gun control in the U.S. because "muh founding fathers" and "muh Second Amendment" are totally fine with repealing the First Amendment.

There are people like that in the US? o.O

rap music, video games, and other stuff old people don't understand

I think you're always going to have nutters we can't control that

we can make it harder for nutters to get mass killing machines

word.

hmm there seems to be a trending line but i'm not sure??????????

but but... there's not MORE crime in general in America... we're smack in the middle

so i wonder why some states have more gun homicides than others????

and the usa, despite having "normal" levels of crime, have so many more deaths from guns?

OH MAYBE IT'S ALL THE FUCKING GUNS

I don't see the correlation

There's no gun violence in Scandinavia because, last I checked, there aren't very many heavy metal bands there. All they have is Björk, and she's never inspired gun violence.

Plus if you shoot a gun in iceland, Björk will personally hunt you down and stop you on your tracks.

her stalker did kill himself with a gun on camera. but i think he was on american soil

I wish The Omega Concern was still here so we could listen to him tell us how the FL shooting is just another false flag by the Five Jew Bilderburg Hilldawg Pedo World Order looking to supplant Orange Jesus in 2020.

#keepyourlawsoffmyguns

RIP TOC

The reason the U.S. has got so much gun violence is that Iceland is outsourcing all of its murders there. BUILD A WALL.

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I'd like to kick in your face.

BADOOM!

Brazil seems poorly ranked from what our reactionary news tell us.

Wow...

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HOR.MEL CHILI. NO BEANS
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DINTY MOORE CLASSIC BEEF STEW
ENCHILADAS (RARE)

keep in mind I'm from a euro country, we don't have freedom here

but are there many examples of people successfully 'defending' themselves with a gun?

just any gun, not the semi- or fully-automatic assault weapons

like the whole idea is that when someone breaks into your house you have a gun handy in order to escort them out of the house in a friendly way or just shoot them in the face and you will have successfully defended your family, but how often does that actually happen?

incredible

it does, but you're more likely to get shot by your own gun than shoot someone else. to be fair, most of that is probably suicide

if i owned a gun and a home invader came into my house there is a 100% chance they would snatch the gun out of my hand and shoot me so it's better for me to take the chance that they don't have their own gun already

Moms demand action

Hahahahahhahahahahah

Oh right, for a second there I forgot sexistphoria was still a thing.