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The Omega Concern 03-13-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4329934)
why did omega concern go all blood in, blood out all of a sudden


You're the one calling me a racist dumbo, like you think you know me. But then you say RACE isn't something to defend...like wha??? Why you so focused on it then?

The Omega Concern 03-13-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook (Post 4329933)
I not arguing with you. I'm telling you to eat dick and die.



no thanks Fulltoke. I don't pretend there's people of any culture or race or religion one wouldn't want to be associated with. It's as simple as that.

Trotskilicious 03-13-2017 11:43 PM

that doesn't even make sense as a sentence, omega.

The Omega Concern 03-13-2017 11:54 PM

As opposed to pretending there is.

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 12:02 AM

word salad, man

smashingjj 03-14-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Omega Concern (Post 4329884)
Lots of radicals in that mix here and certainly in western europe where there's sharia law zones and the like. gang rapes and worse...and the politicians blame the scantily clad woman.

Yep, sharia all over the place here dude. I allow my wife to leave the house every now and then, but only when wearing a burka and exactly 3 meters behind me. Then I constantly change my walking tempo or start running in the other direction out of the blue. Lots of fun!

Seriously, have you been in western europe lately or do you simply believe everything that is fed to you on those extreme right wing gossip blogs?

smashingjj 03-14-2017 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4330050)
but there is Nazism everywhere in the U.S.

lol

Please point me to where i said that

smashingjj 03-14-2017 10:34 AM

Also please tell me where exactly is sharia law in western Europe.

smashingjj 03-14-2017 10:59 AM

Just trolling then. Nazi

redbreegull 03-14-2017 11:31 AM

race is a cultural construct

it is a real thing with real effects because "when people view their situations as real they are real in their consequences"

race has no biological or scientific underpinning whatsoever

not really hard to understand unless you're just a racist

FoolofaTook 03-14-2017 11:44 AM

Smashingjj these guys are pure undiluted dunderheads. You are wasting your time.

FoolofaTook 03-14-2017 11:45 AM

I have the same message for you rbg. They are just getting off on provoking us and being inflamatory. Fuck them.

(Cigs withdrawals make me cranky)

redbreegull 03-14-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4330082)
The word "race" as we use it in this context is a misnomer, but that does not mean there are not biological and scientific differences between the races. It is ignorant, not racist, to make that claim. To try to say that one race is inherently better than another is racist, but merely seeing differences is not.

There is no scientific underpinning to the idea of race, period. Race is an entirely cultural idea. If you want to talk in scientific terms you can talk about populations and genetics, but that's not the same thing at all. There is no biological dividing line between any one racial category we have devised and another. What we see as race is literally family resemblance on a grand scale.

redbreegull 03-14-2017 12:32 PM

Race and ethnicity, especially our modern conception of race, developed as a result of colonialism and slavery.

To suggest that the idea of race is some kind of analog to a scientific idea like genetic populations is absolutely wrong.

There is more genetic diversity within different populations in Africa than between all other "racial groups" in the entire world. Diversity of genetics has no link to what we see as race, which is for the most part just a few obvious phenotypes we have focused on obsessively, thus creating a conception that there are inherent differences between arbitrarily separated groups

redbreegull 03-14-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dade (Post 4330087)
professor, stop spamming me with dicks and explain this..how do you land on race being "entirely a cultural idea" ?

what are you thoughts on stereotypes? do they exist for a reason or are they just bigoted blanket statements based on one's first impression (or continual impressions?)

How do I land on it? lol as towering as my intellect may be, I can't take credit for this widely understood piece of information which is centered on having a basic understanding of genetics and is covered in the first week of any Anth 101 course.

It is possible to make meaningful cultural generalizations in many cases. In fact, "culture" is literally a collection of generalizations. A stereotype is usually understood to be a generalization specifically meant to denigrate a group or to emphasize its otherness. There are also different kinds of stereotypes... some may focus on exaggerated perceptions about a group, whereas others are literally nonsense. So I don't know exactly what you mean, but either way racial stereotypes are ideas about culture, not genetics. Race has no relation to human genetics. It has everything to do with culture.

redbreegull 03-14-2017 01:27 PM

e.g.

"black people are good at sports" – stereotype with no scientific support. people with dark skin or whose ancestors are from warm climates are not genetically predisposed to be athletic, it's an absurd belief. perhaps there are a lot of black individuals in American sports, I don't even know because sports, but even if it is true it's totally unclear why, beyond that it is some confluence of cultural mechanisms. It could be related to the intersection of race and class and unequal opportunity access. But the stereotype is the same as "Jews are good with money." There are a lot of Jewish accountants and bankers, but it's not because Jews evolved to like money more than other people.

"black people are predisposed to sickle cell anemia" – a statement of limited understanding, but one based on quantified scientific study. Sickle cell is a genetic variation which protects people from malaria. It is more common in populations from malarial areas, including some places in Africa, southern Europe, and the Middle East. Because of what is sometimes known as "boy/girl next door phenomenon," meaning that most people procreate with people who are from the same geographic area as them, populations stratify and certain traits become exaggerated. This is the same principal that causes families to look more alike each other than compared to random people off the street, but on a macro level. This is also a very pared down way of explaining genetic populations. Bottom line, sickle cell is more prevalent in black Americans than white Americans for example, because of the conditions our ancestors' populations were responding to (in this case malarial mosquitos), and then limited breeding spreads that trait around to a high degree within that population, leaving individuals from other populations less likely to have the trait. Compare to certain diseases which are very prevalent with Ashkenazi Jews. It's because families are alike to each other and when cultural ideas like race limit who you have kids with, you wind up having kids with other members of your big family which just perpetuates the higher rate of those diseases within the group.


you're welcome, that will be $80,000

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj (Post 4330061)
Please point me to where i said that

there is naziism all over the us, the Southern Poverty Law Center & Anti-Defamation League has been tracking the undeniable spike in white supremacist activity throughout the country. Graveyards are being defaced, synagogues are receiving bomb threats. I'm sure poots believes until the end of days that this is something that happened before but was unreported, but he's a nazi so of course he'd say that.

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 03:02 PM

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To suggest that the idea of race is some kind of analog to a scientific idea like genetic populations is absolutely wrong.
its called "racism" i think

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 03:06 PM

i've seen people kick around the idea that american blacks are good at sports because they are from slave stock selected for strength and bred like animals, i don't know any truth to this, or if this would wash out over time

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 03:10 PM

i personally believe that its because they're financially & socially denied other avenues for opportunity so there is a cultural focus on athletics or entertainment to get money, since that's the two ways the most black men & women have gotten rich

i think ethiopia & kenya dominate long distance track not because of genetics necessarily but because of a combination of high altitude & glorious tradition

Trotskilicious 03-14-2017 03:12 PM

like, nobody goes "man what's the genetics of why austrians & swiss are good at skiing?" i mean jesus guys they live in the alps and basically invented it


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