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You're the one calling me a racist dumbo, like you think you know me. But then you say RACE isn't something to defend...like wha??? Why you so focused on it then? |
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no thanks Fulltoke. I don't pretend there's people of any culture or race or religion one wouldn't want to be associated with. It's as simple as that. |
that doesn't even make sense as a sentence, omega.
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As opposed to pretending there is.
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word salad, man
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Seriously, have you been in western europe lately or do you simply believe everything that is fed to you on those extreme right wing gossip blogs? |
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Also please tell me where exactly is sharia law in western Europe.
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Just trolling then. Nazi
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race is a cultural construct
it is a real thing with real effects because "when people view their situations as real they are real in their consequences" race has no biological or scientific underpinning whatsoever not really hard to understand unless you're just a racist |
Smashingjj these guys are pure undiluted dunderheads. You are wasting your time.
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I have the same message for you rbg. They are just getting off on provoking us and being inflamatory. Fuck them.
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Race and ethnicity, especially our modern conception of race, developed as a result of colonialism and slavery.
To suggest that the idea of race is some kind of analog to a scientific idea like genetic populations is absolutely wrong. There is more genetic diversity within different populations in Africa than between all other "racial groups" in the entire world. Diversity of genetics has no link to what we see as race, which is for the most part just a few obvious phenotypes we have focused on obsessively, thus creating a conception that there are inherent differences between arbitrarily separated groups |
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It is possible to make meaningful cultural generalizations in many cases. In fact, "culture" is literally a collection of generalizations. A stereotype is usually understood to be a generalization specifically meant to denigrate a group or to emphasize its otherness. There are also different kinds of stereotypes... some may focus on exaggerated perceptions about a group, whereas others are literally nonsense. So I don't know exactly what you mean, but either way racial stereotypes are ideas about culture, not genetics. Race has no relation to human genetics. It has everything to do with culture. |
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"black people are good at sports" – stereotype with no scientific support. people with dark skin or whose ancestors are from warm climates are not genetically predisposed to be athletic, it's an absurd belief. perhaps there are a lot of black individuals in American sports, I don't even know because sports, but even if it is true it's totally unclear why, beyond that it is some confluence of cultural mechanisms. It could be related to the intersection of race and class and unequal opportunity access. But the stereotype is the same as "Jews are good with money." There are a lot of Jewish accountants and bankers, but it's not because Jews evolved to like money more than other people. "black people are predisposed to sickle cell anemia" – a statement of limited understanding, but one based on quantified scientific study. Sickle cell is a genetic variation which protects people from malaria. It is more common in populations from malarial areas, including some places in Africa, southern Europe, and the Middle East. Because of what is sometimes known as "boy/girl next door phenomenon," meaning that most people procreate with people who are from the same geographic area as them, populations stratify and certain traits become exaggerated. This is the same principal that causes families to look more alike each other than compared to random people off the street, but on a macro level. This is also a very pared down way of explaining genetic populations. Bottom line, sickle cell is more prevalent in black Americans than white Americans for example, because of the conditions our ancestors' populations were responding to (in this case malarial mosquitos), and then limited breeding spreads that trait around to a high degree within that population, leaving individuals from other populations less likely to have the trait. Compare to certain diseases which are very prevalent with Ashkenazi Jews. It's because families are alike to each other and when cultural ideas like race limit who you have kids with, you wind up having kids with other members of your big family which just perpetuates the higher rate of those diseases within the group. you're welcome, that will be $80,000 |
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i've seen people kick around the idea that american blacks are good at sports because they are from slave stock selected for strength and bred like animals, i don't know any truth to this, or if this would wash out over time
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i personally believe that its because they're financially & socially denied other avenues for opportunity so there is a cultural focus on athletics or entertainment to get money, since that's the two ways the most black men & women have gotten rich
i think ethiopia & kenya dominate long distance track not because of genetics necessarily but because of a combination of high altitude & glorious tradition |
like, nobody goes "man what's the genetics of why austrians & swiss are good at skiing?" i mean jesus guys they live in the alps and basically invented it
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