speaking of which, this 60+ gay felon will not let me be!! It doesn't matter where I am, as soon as he sees me he goes straight for me starts making random small talk, smiling like the summer sun. i run, i flee, but I cannot elude my aged gay criminal lover!

why god why

maybe I should shave my head or keep my dentures out

rbg the south was fighting for states rights. lincoln didn't commit to banishing slavery until later on. lee and jackson were incredible generals.

and sherman committed genocide. you heard of his march to the sea? burning everything in his army's way.

lol i was writing all this under the assumption that all three were confederates.

heh. Fool of a Took!

"military insurrection against the US?"

what are you a patriot? lol sorry couldn't help myself.

fuck the US.

Goddam how did I end up on poots' side?

I just said they were good commanders.

That parrot is pretty. And speaking of soup I'm sitting in a soup kitchen right now.

SO FUCK U POOTS

netphoria deserves better trolls than this

absolutely false, protection of slavery was the stated reason for the war by Confederate leaders at the outset

The entire war began because Lincoln was elected. His party, the upstart Republicans, had a platform of abolishing slavery. This is literally why the South seceded.

that's total war, not genocide. I don't think Sherman was necessarily a model of moral behavior either but admiring Robert E. Lee is fucking stupid.

I know it must be very hard for you to think about responding to six whole sentences, I'll give you some time and check back in a few days.

Sorry rbg but that is not what they taught me at my college. I'm not trolling. i was taught that the states rights issue goes way back to revolutionary times. But I know nothibng about us history and i was smoking hella treez too (surprise!) so who knows.

anyway i agree that slavery is bad and that it was a good thing that the civil war got rid of it. and by bad i mean one pf the worst thing man has ever inflicted on man. so at least we agree on the thing that matters most unlike poots that poots.

oh and fuck total war. just read this from ursula le guin: "Almost anything carried to its logical extreme becomes depressing, if not carcinogenic."

that is a really common myth, it is what i was taught in grade school and many peopke in the US are taught this also

but it is not true. the north won the battles but in the long term the south won propaganda war. the south completely undid reconstruction effort and implemented segregation. after the war there was actually a number of black men elected to state legislatures and even some in house of representatives I think, but in a few decades all the progress had been undone and black people were almost back where they started in some ways. even today many liberal americans have weird sympathetic views of the south but i promise if you really read the history, it was always about slavery.

rbg is right, the republicans began as an anti-slavery party and when lincoln was elected south carolina did the nullification thing to try and leave the country. that is, in literal terms, how the war started. and there are writing from SC confederate leaders that blatantly say this is all about slavery

slavery was a state right so it's true in a general way but the whole war was predicated on SLAVERY ISSUE specifically, it was totally about slavery. it's like if I say Iraq war was about oil and you say lol no it was about resources.

I see. I stand corrected. I do remeber that before the war there was hella tension in the border states and that it was a big deal for new states. to decide whether they would be pro or anti slavery.

These are not Lincoln quotes
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/alajourn...ew=text&seq=40

Those quotes belong to two guys mentioned in the text I posted. I could only find that white supremacist sites had attributed the quote to lincoln. All you people shouting that no, lincoln was actually racist WHICH MAKES RACISM OK!!! Gotta stop right now. And even if he was, well,
Welcome to the 1860s. You are now in 2017, where progress means something completely different.

and I repeat it here, that if there be a man amongst us who does not think that the institution of slavery is wrong in any one of the aspects of which I have spoken, he is misplaced, and ought not to be with us

Lincoln was definitely racist, but relative to his time he was a raging liberal. He believed strongly in abolition (again for the third time this was the fundamental issue the Republican party was built on) but he struggled to personally view black people as equal.

The Republicans were an abolitionist party. They ran Lincoln, who won, and when that happened the slave states started seceding, specifically citing slavery as the reason for their split. I can post the declarations of independence of some confederate states if you nazis need some primary sources. I'm always happy to educate.

From the sounds of it Lincoln opposed slavery but didn't quite make it to 2017. Which is pretty normal. Relative to 1860, this very was progressive. How was the civil war not about slavery? Why does everything gotta be all or nothing to you guys

I wrote what rbg wrote here and this post is meant to emphasize this point

Good adult conversation here guys

I don't understand the last sentence considering the conversation topic is abraham lincoln

Oh ffs (for fuck's sake)

Damn I'm staring to think that I might not be the worst poster here after all.

Dade could really benefit from a sabbath sundown service singalong (featuring acoustic guitars ovations in all likelihood)

my post was 6 sentences long. If I was able to put so much "misinformation" into those 6 sentences that the idea of responding is overwhelming, I must be either be the shit or you guys must be really really dumb

Trump's new slogan:

"Keep America Great"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0cf0ae8810f52

You are a decent enough and alright human bean on the mend. We are all rooting for you

Poots' trolling style is to aay racist shit and see who expounds on it. Comgrats. You took the bait. Wake up

I vacationed in the south central applalachians this past summer and near the cabin we rented there was what stood a home, that, unfortunately is most accurately described as a shed. They had a hound dog on a tether with a now heeled very broken foot (bent 90* all the way back). They asked for (metal) cans and such so I would put them in a bag and then drop them off but dang it was hard to watch that old guy hobble and see the tv going off inside this mildew crusted habitat. My contribution to #thirtydays and real america.