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Elphenor 11-22-2016 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4297860)

"Racism is correct"

vixnix 11-22-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor (Post 4297865)
We had this discussion and I still think you're being way stupid

It's the laws fault that there existed a loophole not the defense lawyers fault for using it

It is a necessary job in a fair society

There will always be loopholes, and it is up to individual lawyers to make decisions regarding individual clients they represent, and whether to utilise loopholes, or leave them be because this particular client is guilty and unrepentant and doesn't deserve a second chance.

Defense lawyers serve an important purpose in a free and civil society in a case like that of Mumia Abu Jamal.

Saying that she did her job well depends on your definition of what her job was. If her job was to win at all costs, to create new legal precedents, then she did in fact do that very well.

If her job was to assist in the law fulfilling its highest and oldest purpose, of providing a remedy to those who have been made victims by the wrongdoing of others, she failed. And she failed because she cared more about her own personal career gains than she did about the future of a human being who was raped when she was twelve, by a grown man.

She has no soul. And she a bitch. There ain't no two ways about it. She may well be successful in your eyes; she isn't, in mine.

vixnix 11-22-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor (Post 4297865)
We had this discussion and I still think you're being way stupid

It's the laws fault that there existed a loophole not the defense lawyers fault for using it

It is a necessary job in a fair society

Also...how, exactly, have you gained your knowledge of the law, and how the law works?

Elphenor 11-22-2016 08:02 AM

not by dropping out of law school

Can't say I'm surprised you didn't make it through

Elphenor 11-22-2016 08:04 AM

A defense lawyers job is not to assist the prosecutor in screwing them if they look guilty

vixnix 11-22-2016 08:19 AM

i see. and how many years of law school did you 'make it though'

Cool As Ice Cream 11-22-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vixnix (Post 4297871)
i see. and how many years of law school did you 'make it though'

learn how to write, you stupid bitch

Elphenor 11-22-2016 08:42 AM

I'm just saying that's not a great argument for you

vixnix 11-22-2016 08:43 AM

learn how to english, you stupid belgian

vixnix 11-22-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor (Post 4297873)
I'm just saying that's not a great argument for you

what is not a good argument, me having been at law school for two years and then quitting because I didn't want to be a lawyer?

I doubt you'd finish law school. it isn't good for anything much, these days. except preparing you for the drudgery of being a lawyer.

buzzard 11-22-2016 10:04 AM

What we need is a system for distinguishing between those falsely accused of sex crimes against minors and bona fide paedos. Then we can deprive the bad ones of proper legal representation when the criminal trial comes about.

vixnix 11-22-2016 10:41 AM

yes well, we have to be careful when proper representation is what's at stake. that noble and clearly defined course of action operating in a perfectly just legal system is not something to be trifled with unless we are certain that the perverted meatsack raped the girl.

to think, from such humble beginnings in the English countryside, to the current, unquestionable adversarial system - it's hard to believe just how much things can change.

buzzard 11-22-2016 09:13 PM

Not all progress is bad, though, is it?

For example, we could have all penises fitted with GoPro cameras in order that the courts have footage to review in the event of a formal complaint.

vixnix 11-22-2016 09:25 PM

This is a placeholder, for my witty comment about loopholes

Cool As Ice Cream 11-23-2016 04:17 AM

ur a loop hole

ur hole is loop

teh b0lly!!1 11-23-2016 05:08 AM

boy i can't wait for this thread to die

Cool As Ice Cream 11-23-2016 08:18 AM

loopy vixen

MyOneAndOnly 11-23-2016 06:19 PM

either Jill Stein is trolling for more donations to pay her debts or she's serious about doing the Dem's job for them and getting recounts in 3 states


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b09b6055fffc64

Disco King 11-23-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4298053)
either Jill Stein is trolling for more donations to pay her debts or she's serious about doing the Dem's job for them and getting recounts in 3 states


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b09b6055fffc64

Unless she thinks she can find herself four more popular-vote percentage points and receive federal funding for her party, yeah, looks like she's trying to help the Democrats.

Makes sense. Stein would probably prefer a Clinton presidency to a Trump one, but can't go out and say that because her line has to be that strategic voting is bad and she actually has a shot to become president and people should vote for her. By asking for a recount, she can find out if Clinton really did win the College without actually saying anything about supporting Clinton.

Disco King 11-23-2016 06:44 PM

Our #1 Stein supporter will be ecstatic about the candidate he voted for standing up to ensure that the democratic process was executed properly.

MyOneAndOnly 11-23-2016 06:53 PM

there needs to be a public narrative about the fucked up status of our electoral system. the only narrative right now is the GOP "illegal alien voter fraud" fiction. What Dem leadership totally misses is that pushing these things even when it doesn't go anywhere sometimes helps contribute to the public understanding of what's wrong.

redbreegull 11-23-2016 06:54 PM

lol Jill Stein is like in theory I want to like this woman

but she is such a clown

Elphenor 11-23-2016 07:05 PM

It's not happening we're getting a ronald mcdonald presidency

Enjoy this last month of Obama

buzzard 11-23-2016 07:07 PM

Can we really trust the votes of those that have been immunized?

Disco King 11-23-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4298064)
there needs to be a public narrative about the fucked up status of our electoral system. the only narrative right now is the GOP "illegal alien voter fraud" fiction. What Dem leadership totally misses is that pushing these things even when it doesn't go anywhere sometimes helps contribute to the public understanding of what's wrong.

I dunno, it seems almost impossible to rig a U.S. election because it's really numerous mini-elections, but Trump was repeating that it was rigged against him anyway. Asking for a recount is okay, but if it's on the premise that the election was somehow rigged, the Democrats will pretty much be spouting the same rhetoric Trump was.

Attention should rather be put on voter ID laws that disenfranchise poor people and minorities, gerrymandering, and the Electoral College itself.

ohnoitsbonnie 11-23-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4298066)
lol Jill Stein is like in theory I want to like this woman

but she is such a clown

Wifi has muddled your brain cells. Youre a mutant

Tchocky 11-23-2016 08:27 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2884843

The Illuminati may yet steal it from Trump.

Disco King 11-23-2016 11:38 PM

Nate Silver says that the ballot anomalies completely disappear once basic variables are controlled for.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...21907609579520

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Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 4298075)
Can we really trust the votes of those that have been immunized?

It depends. Energy bracelets completely disrupt the mind-controlling nanobots transmitted by vaccines, so we should only trust those wearing one.

Elphenor 11-24-2016 02:37 AM

Mate Silver was completely wrong about everything this time around

Disco King 11-24-2016 12:22 PM

Not really. His model favoured Trump more than others and gave him a 30% chance or something. An 11% chance that Clinton would win the popular vote and Trump would win the Electoral College, as well.

Trump was given a lower probability of winning, but low probabilities are not nothing. You have an 11% chance of rolling a five with two dice, but you could still get it on your first try.


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