nah he has me convinced. Should have voted Trump!

and here we all are, just staring at it every day

Ah long time ahgo, ah whuz in Burma

ah rubay, the soize uv ah TANGERINE

Hey vix,

If I recall correctly you and I went off on a tangent in the Poli board election thread about the elite pedo rings. Well, you may find this interesting:

only if you're volunteering to be the first to go

the world would be so much better if I didn't have to share so much! Other people suck!

The funny thing is that the lack of sustainability of our species has little to do with overpopulation. People in the developing world who are popping out the most kids aren't the people using up most of the resources. It's the developed world with rich fucks who drive two Hummers to work, one on each foot, like fucking roller skates. It's us who have to reduce our carbon footprint, and create green technologies before the developing world starts to demand living the sorts of lifestyles we do.

I mean, it wouldn't be bad if we slowed down population growth so that we could have true Fully-Automated Post-Scarcity Luxury Social Utopia. But we can do that through birth control and education, not fucking up the world so badly that maybe the world economy collapses and we have to go back to growing turnips on our lord's fiefdom. Especially because if we do that, the carbon we shit into the atmosphere is gonna be there for another few hundred years anyway, so it's not like we would just quickly start from scratch.

You say birth control and education after stating that the problem is not contraception, but the consumptive lifestyles of those with fewer children.

So the solution is actually consumers in the developed world giving up a bunch of their shit.

Like beef, fast fashion, private motor vehicle transport and aircon.

Good luck with that :(

I think people would rather die while driving their air-conditioned ford through McD's drive through, picking up their quarter pounder meal, sitting behind the wheel in uniqlo, than have to give all that stuff up to live in the heat, eating salad and lentils, dressing in one of two bamboo outfits they own.

Because people are stupid and shitty, like that.

I said that it wouldn't be bad if we had more contraception in the developing world, and that the smaller the world population, the higher the standard of life each person could have (up to a point; you need enough people for labour and stuff), but that doesn't mean that the population in the developing world is the significant reason for humanity being unsustainable as it is. I don't see how those two statements are contradictory.

I dunno, places like Sweden have a much smaller carbon footprint per capita than places like the U.S. or Canada, and the average Swede isn't living off of a diet that consists of what he or she grows in his or her backyard.

Part of the answer will be individuals making decisions to limit their footprint, like being smarter with water and eating less meat and stuff like that. Another big part will be on the societal level, such as internalizing environmental externalities through carbon pricing.

But yeah, easier said than done. I'm off to Carl's Jr. to eat a meal that has way more calories than I need and required more water and carbon to produce per calorie than something healthier would require. Then I'm probably going to kill myself.

if everyone like poots uhh disappeared there would be a lot more resources to go around

I don't think any progress on carbon emissions happens until the gov puts down regulations

Even if they did, it wouldn't stop foreign countries like China from polluting the world into oblivion

Use some sense

It's what the U.N. is for and it's mostly the US rejecting treaties to globally reduce because we have a political party that thinks global warming is not happening

yeah you can't stop your neighbor from throwing trash on the ground, so you might as well throw even MORE trash on the ground, right? I mean that makes total sense

USE SOME SENSE

Global Warming? I thought they gave up the ghost on that term and opted for Climate Change. Besides, you mean anthropogenic effects on the climate and whether there's causation.

The U.N. exist for the Marxist extortionist that inhabit it. Any political stance they take is to further their global governance agenda, part of which is to arrest people who challenge the GW/CC narrative. We'd all be better off to kick those crooks out of New York, let them find another country to pillage.

I didn't see this before... :( will probably not be able to resist the urge to look into it.

Aren't Trump and Epstein accused of the same thing?

They're all disgusting depraved sacks of meat IMO.

It's true that the planet is fine and that my aversion to having turtles eating plastic bags is really more to do with aesthetic preferences. I just think it makes the earth look a bit povo. :(

You know what's truly tragic and ironic, is that decades ago, if trump had been in similar trouble because of his illegal indiscretions, Hillary Clinton would have been a great choice for him, in terms of representation at court.

well that's her job as an intelligent legal professional with an intimate understanding of law and policy

without the inconvenience and burden of a human soul

Epstein is rumoured to be Mossad and has plenty of video on all sorts of movers and shakers which visited that island of his. Trump's rape case which alleges he and Epstein repeatedly raping a 13 y.o. girl in '94, goes to court next month. Needless to say, it'll be interesting to see how that all shakes out.

There's a pic floating around of a naked Bill Clinton getting a massage by a woman. If it isn't him, it's a lookalike, but it sure appears to be him. I'd guess the pic is the real deal and a threat of some type to Clinton to let him know they got pics and vids on him and they're willing to leak it out.

Then there's the Podesta brothers and the creepy inside 'pizza' lingo. That one appears the closest to getting exposed and wreaking havoc on these elite rings.

Defense lawyers do an important job in liberal democracies. Especially because the adversarial justice system is stacked in favour of the prosecution. This is because the prosecution can indict an accused with multiple charges, but they only really need to win on one of them to convict the accused of something. The defense has to win on all of the charges if they want the accused to go free. And because the prosecution has an incentive to have as many convictions as possible, regardless of guilt, they're going to file multiple charges. Even if the accused is a piece of shit who clearly committed the crime, the defense is doing an important job by representing them. It's on the prosecution to do their job and convict the person if there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that they committed the crime. Despite the fact that they always get the slimiest guy with greasy, slicked-back hair and a weaselly voice to play the defense lawyer on Law & Order, defense lawyers aren't necessarily soulless.

Of course, there are issues with sex crimes, in which many victims do not get justice. In countries such as Canada, there are laws in place to make sure that defense lawyers do not use unfair tactics, such as questioning the victim's sexual history, when cross-examining the victim. I'm sure a lot of U.S. states don't have those provisions, because I hear horror stories about things women in particular are put through. That doesn't mean the concept of the defense lawyer itself is bad, just that there needs to be regulations to decide what is fair.

The bulk of injustices sexual-assault victims face in the legal system happens before a foot is even set in the courtroom, though. Police are notoriously bad at dealing with rape victims, believe in many rape myths, and don't have the proper training to do their jobs.

I went to law school for two years, and so did my father - we both hated it and dropped out.

My first cousin became a lawyer and ended up earning a full scholarship to Harvard, to read fro a master of laws (from New Zealand). The grandfather I share with her is a university professor, so our family are essentially faculty brats.

That's why I ended up graduating with a BA in philosophy and am now pursuing a master of creative writing, but my kids still have private music tuition.

So yeah. I know what a defence lawyer is for, and their value to society.

One of my best friends from childhood became a defence lawyer for one of New Zealand's scummiest corporate law firms.

She quit, and is now a crown prosecutor, who is best known for her successful prosecution of sex offenders.

So when I say you need to be missing human soul to be the kind of lawyer who undermines the testimony of a 12 year old rape victim so that her rapist serves a one year jail sentence, I don't say that without knowing how true that is.

She a bitch, Jerry.

We had this discussion and I still think you're being way stupid

It's the laws fault that there existed a loophole not the defense lawyers fault for using it

It is a necessary job in a fair society