Alright, yeah I get it. Dont post links. Thats been established. I guess people don't listen. Which is fine. Delete the posts then, thats usually what happens on other message boards. But I guess mods are too busy, so its easier to delete the whole thread. OK. This is lame.

the Communistic cover art to the "33" single makes perfect sense now.


FULL CIRCLE!!! MAchINA MysteRY!!!!

Well said. No I'm not blaming you. I'm just frustrated at the whole stupid situation, which makes me feel even MORE like a loser for even giving a shit anymore, after being a fan since 1991. Why am I still here? I dont know. This whole fiasco makes me question my own sanity.
Maybe Im insane. YEs, thats it. I'm insane. Insane in the membrane.
half this board prolly doesnt even know what that reference is.

Thanks Billy for pointing out what a loser I am.

why "done with"? aside from the millions of reasons discussed on this board for more than a decade now, why is this the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

if there are no mods, can i get in the leet section? always been curious.

l33t!

so are you, enjoy the ride.

well yea (I'm old enough to get the reference) - what's even more sad is when you put a ton of time into archiving band shit and recordings, trying to simply ignore what spcamp actually does or says, and think "yea okay, ignore, no care, I love the music, blabla, separate artist and their work."

and then finally, only about 20 years too late realize - you really picked the wrong band.

why is billy corgan such a god damn fuck

you mean "where is the right to publish copy written material without permission?"

god damn billy crogen and his giant archive hoard of songs!

the last time i believed any of his shit about rereleasing everything was in 2010 or 11 when Kerry Brown told me he had a dozen people working on cataloging and prepping "the archive"

6 months later Kerry Brown was fired from being billy cordigan's friend

i still have the SPRC usb with the "unlocked" special tracks and any time now billy corgigan is gonna release more demos and you have to be an SPRC member to get them.

No I am saying its annoying that the THREAD got deleted, that we cant TALK about it. But now it makes sense.

BTW, NIN has an awesome live music archive, and they seem to be cool with making themselves (Reznor) accessible. Even a few employee released earpiece /PA recordings are easily found out there. Pearl jam too with their live recording releases.

Anyway, Just seems like SP camp doesn't support the fan movement. OK, so the Oboard was negative. But at least people were talking about SP. Shut it down, they move on. I think as a whole, SP fans, esp the die hards that have been around and that have STAYED around, are cynical, sarcastic, curmudgeous people who are educated, audiophilic and romantic at heart. Completists, obsessives, and generally NICE people, despite their sarcastic schadenfreudistic attitudes toward each other. Thats my take on SP fans, the people here, online at other sites, and at the MANY shows I've been to over the years. Even random people, Ive met, if it comes up they are into SP, they can be classified into pretty much the same category. I thought BC understood this, but he has distanced himself from his fan base, and lost touch with reality of who we, SP fans, are.

Fuckit.

what is "SP Camp?"

This thread is poots

have you seen D'arcy lately. she ain't rollin' in any dough

Its a fat farm outside of Joliet Illinois where overweight teens with tourettes go to. Original 4 SP started it back in late 1994, D'Arcy runs it currently. Her and Lenny Dykstra.

SP CAMP? They made a documentary about it. Its on IMDB: "A group of juvenile criminals is sent for vacation to Kamp Kikakee. SP frontman Billy Corgan has to care for them, although he doesn't even know how to take care of himself. The other children at the camp show enmity against them, but the group knows very well how to defend themselves. They do also help the Indian owner of the camp when a brutal mining corporation wants to tear down the camp to mine a rare mineral."

I think it was posted on Youtube, but that was taken down too.

sp camp is prolly lost in the bottom of that giant hole that I-80 goes over

You mean your mom's VAGINA!!!????!!!

YEAH BOY!!!

If we're allowed to discuss the songs, can someone post a complete list of the leaks that just dropped so those of us who missed them can go about our own means of finding em?

Not sure, but these days that sounds awfully "delete thread/cash rewards" worthy to me

It was me Billy, I stole your shit and leaked it. Please sue me so I can face you in court and shout WHERE'S JAMES IHA

ok, so people actually got legal letters? were any pictures of these letters posted online?

Save them, they are valuable.

In 10 years, these letters will be featured on "memorabilia mondays".

Mark me words.

He doesn't want us. Even though we're the only ones who buy his shit anymore. He wants all the younger fans. He's forever lost inside the dreams of teen machines. He said it himself.

I wonder how old and sad and broken and friendless and fat and lost and defeated he will have to get before he decides to just grow the fuck up already

Cannot believe I'm logging in after all these years, but what board is everyone using that isn't being censored by Bill and his team of henchmen? This is lunacy. Wouldn't mind a list of leaks so far as Christ, can't find anywhere?

Redbree? Help out an old bro?

We should maybe look in to starting an invite-only board so that we can talk about stuff free of persecution by the band

Or maybe that's pointless because we've probably gotten all the SPRC demos by now and there's gonna be nothing else