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MyOneAndOnly 03-04-2015 01:13 PM

SCOTUS puts your health care on trial
 
Oral arguments today. Kennedy and the 4 Dem appointed justices all sounding skeptical of the petitioners.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/0...alth-law-case/

If a conservative majority holds on the court this could destroy private health insurance companies in the United States and 9 million people would almost certainly lose coverage right away.

MyOneAndOnly 03-04-2015 01:16 PM

I don't understand why SCOTUS would agree to even hear this case. It's frivolous and there's serious issues of standing for the petitioners. It's obvious that conservatives don't care about consistency from the bench, but if the court were to overturn the subsidies portion of the law over a 4 word typo there are countless other laws that would then be subject to review by the courts. Just about every large piece of legislation that goes through congress has minor grammatical mistakes that could read like this.

Order 66 03-04-2015 02:40 PM

is there any precedent to this? striking a law because of a 'glitch'?

Eulogy 03-04-2015 11:44 PM

It's not ambiguous and the plaintiffs have never had any fucking idea what the case is about and might not even have standing

Eulogy 03-05-2015 07:34 AM

No there isn't. Some of the justices who granted cert may very well have wanted to shut this fucking litigator up once and for all.

Eulogy 03-05-2015 09:30 AM

Eh. Maybe.

But this is obviously more high profile. And he could have just found other plaintiffs in a different circuit.

Scalia's "surely congress wouldn't sit idly by" statement makes it seem like he's going to interpret the statute in a way he's never said statutes should be interpreted. Because he's an intellectually dishonest shit masquerading as a scholar. I hate him so much.

Eulogy 03-05-2015 09:31 AM

And also he can't possibly believe this congress could act to fix anything

Ugggh

Order 66 03-05-2015 11:47 AM

i mean if the law ddnt allow for federal exchanges i dont think theyd.. yknow.. set up federal exchanges. just seems asinine for this to be in contention over four words

itd be pretty lulzy if they rule in the plaintiffs favor. in a sad way of course

Order 66 03-05-2015 12:40 PM

yeah but this suit in particular is just nitpicking and politicizing

Eulogy 03-05-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4162818)
Scalia is a total prick, but there is no denying that he's brilliant. One of the most intelligent people on the Court in a long time in my opinion although I disagree with most of his opinions.

No. This is a fantasy that everyone has for some reason bought into.

He's a good writer. Beyond that his mind is nothing special at all.

Eulogy 03-05-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4162820)
I think the issue is federalism--is it within the power of the federal gov't to do so?

No that was the 2012 case.

This is solely a matter of statutory interpretation.

Eulogy 03-05-2015 04:31 PM

What examples of his brilliance are you thinking of

Elphenor 03-05-2015 04:50 PM

Scalia is at best really dumb and at worst being intellectually dishonest because of his biases

The Omega Concern 03-05-2015 06:03 PM

I'm puzzled this is reviewed as well, but only because Roberts must of got the equivalent of a Horses head in his bed the night before the SC green lighted it in 2012. .

This then, is really a push-back to that. So it is interesting.

Eulogy 03-05-2015 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor (Post 4162912)
Scalia is at best really dumb and at worst being intellectually dishonest because of his biases

I mean

I can grant he has a certain brand of intelligence. You can't be dumb and write that well.

I dunno. I just hate him.

Trotskilicious 03-05-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4162721)
Eh. Maybe.

But this is obviously more high profile. And he could have just found other plaintiffs in a different circuit.

Scalia's "surely congress wouldn't sit idly by" statement makes it seem like he's going to interpret the statute in a way he's never said statutes should be interpreted. Because he's an intellectually dishonest shit masquerading as a scholar. I hate him so much.

i havent looked forward to anyone dropping dead this much since strom thurmond

Trotskilicious 03-05-2015 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4162894)
No. This is a fantasy that everyone has for some reason bought into.

He's a good writer. Beyond that his mind is nothing special at all.

depends on if you think reptillian is special

Trotskilicious 03-05-2015 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4162900)
Come on. Admitting he is extremely intelligent does not mean you have to agree with him. He has a phenomenal grasp of logic, the law, and history. His ability to write well and express himself in convincing arguments is evidence of that. He might draw conclusions that you or I disagree with, but saying that he is not a brilliant mind sounds spiteful and petty.

i dunno how any of this makes up for being evil. congrats hes diabolical i guess?

fuck scalia

duovamp 03-05-2015 07:27 PM

He interprets the law how he wants to interpret it, just like every other judge. He's smart, but he has a different point of view - one that specifically hurts certain people. He doesn't care about those people. That's what makes him an asshole.

Trotskilicious 03-05-2015 08:12 PM

shhh justice thomas is napping

Trotskilicious 03-05-2015 08:13 PM

i mean goebbles was a high functioning near genius but i fail to see the value in pointing it out


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