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The exploding boy 07-01-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooney (Post 4072665)
i went to the casino for the first time in a long time last night to play blackjack. blew $100, took out $60 more then blew that. then decided i should take out $200 more and head to the high rollers table to make it back. Got down to $50 within a couple minutes than rebounded up to $375 then got the fuck out of there. never so happy to win $15 at the casino in my life. back in the day i could blow three or four hundred bucks at the casino and not give a shit, but these days i have a mortgage and shit, and really can't afford that nonsense. hopefully i don't end up back there in a long time.

I don't get casinos or why people go to them.

Once i was at a casino with a friend (i didnt play anything) to go pick up someone there. And he decided to just have a go at one machine for like 10 minutes. Put like 5 bucks in. I convinced him that as soon as he's won anything, he should quit. He did, he made 12 bucks. If everyone did that, casinos would be out of business. You'll almost ALWAYS win at first, but casinos know that real gamblers will want to go for more and then they'll lose it all. Don't be that guy. Get out ahead, screw them over. I'd say at least as soon as you made 50% of what you put in, get out. and if nothing else, ALWAYS have a set amount you'll spend in mind, at least.

Just losing 10 bucks to me is a tragedy. I lost a 20 some time late last year that i had just taken out and i couldn't get over it for hours. Not gonna get into the time i lost a 1000 cash.......like lost lost (who fucking does thaT? this guy right here..) That took more like a month to get over.

The exploding boy 07-01-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes (Post 4072679)
TOC's a smart guy, Very educated. I think you guys just get annoyed with him because he's always beating his drum loud and passionately while you guys just don't care to hear it.

I mean, I understand it, we're all just here for some mild entertainment and whatnot, so It makes sense that people aren't all that interested in discussing the fundamental issues amongst the world all of the time.

No see that is NOT the issue...........


there's talking about REAL FUNDAMENTAL political issues and pulling shit out of your ass (or having other people pull them out of their asses and then latch on to them)

The exploding boy 07-01-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes (Post 4072676)
Yeah dude, stay away from the Casino. I've had some bad moments there. If I do go there to see a show or something, I'll bring a certain amount of money for drinks or whatever, and a little bit to gamble with while leaving my credit/debit cards at home. That way I can have some fun, and if I lose the money I'm comfortable with losing, I can leave without having urges to "make it back"


And THAT makes you 100% a gambler. The fact that you CANT be in a casino and trust yourself NOT to gamble AT ALL. Normal people don't have that problem.

MyOneAndOnly 07-01-2014 06:57 PM

Its like and idiot circle jerk in here

fuzzyroes 07-02-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072684)
And THAT makes you 100% a gambler. The fact that you CANT be in a casino and trust yourself NOT to gamble AT ALL. Normal people don't have that problem.

Yeah, no doubt, you have a point. But, I stay away from the stupid shit now. I only wager on what I have a great idea about, and It's been paying off for a couple of years now. I went 2-1 again today, on games that paid off nicely. Theres an art to it. I think once you know the league and games so well that it's pretty hard not to make a profit. But hey, Vegas makes it's money off squares. Gotta love the squares, keeps these sites in business in order for me to profit from them.

fuzzyroes 07-02-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4072693)
Its like and idiot circle jerk in here

Yeah Scotty, and you're the cherry on the pie

fuzzyroes 07-02-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072682)
I don't get casinos or why people go to them.

Once i was at a casino with a friend (i didnt play anything) to go pick up someone there. And he decided to just have a go at one machine for like 10 minutes. Put like 5 bucks in. I convinced him that as soon as he's won anything, he should quit. He did, he made 12 bucks. If everyone did that, casinos would be out of business. You'll almost ALWAYS win at first, but casinos know that real gamblers will want to go for more and then they'll lose it all. Don't be that guy. Get out ahead, screw them over. I'd say at least as soon as you made 50% of what you put in, get out. and if nothing else, ALWAYS have a set amount you'll spend in mind, at least.

Just losing 10 bucks to me is a tragedy. I lost a 20 some time late last year that i had just taken out and i couldn't get over it for hours. Not gonna get into the time i lost a 1000 cash.......like lost lost (who fucking does thaT? this guy right here..) That took more like a month to get over.


That's a great point. But when people go to Casinos, they usually have to make a trip down there, and they wanna have some fun for awhile. Going in and making like 10 bucks and just heading home 5 minutes later would be a pain in the ass. To your credit: less of a pain in the ass than losing a bunch of money. I guess it's just the thrill of it all that people enjoy.

MyOneAndOnly 07-02-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072682)
I don't get casinos or why people go to them.

Once i was at a casino with a friend (i didnt play anything) to go pick up someone there. And he decided to just have a go at one machine for like 10 minutes. Put like 5 bucks in. I convinced him that as soon as he's won anything, he should quit. He did, he made 12 bucks. If everyone did that, casinos would be out of business. You'll almost ALWAYS win at first, .

No

if everybody went into a casino and spent 5 minutes playing a slot and stopped, the casino would make as much money as they always make. Because the machine is rigged to take in more than it pays out. One person wins $10, three others lose $10. you don't "always win at first".

Trotskilicious 07-02-2014 04:40 PM

do they put cherries on pies in fucking canadia or what, that idiom doesn't exist what the fuck fuzzy

it's a cherry on top

like a sundae

YEEZUS

The exploding boy 07-02-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4072777)
No

if everybody went into a casino and spent 5 minutes playing a slot and stopped, the casino would make as much money as they always make. Because the machine is rigged to take in more than it pays out. One person wins $10, three others lose $10. you don't "always win at first".

Well I have to claim lack of experience but one of my mom's shit ex bf was a gambler thst was recovering for a while and he said that at some point almost always he was ahead. Maybe by 2$ maybe by 10$. Maybe by 50$. But he claimed there was rarely a night gambling on machines he wasn't after a while at some point ahead, or at least back to where he started, but it was never ahead enough. He didn't want to go home with ten bucks more than he had when he came in. It had to be worth it. tht's what he said anyway...

The exploding boy 07-02-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4072867)
do they put cherries on pies in fucking canadia or what, that idiom doesn't exist what the fuck fuzzy

it's a cherry on top

like a sundae

YEEZUS

yeah that really takes the pie.

it's like the cream on the cake.

Bread Regal 07-02-2014 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072682)
You'll almost ALWAYS win at first

what's the opposite of gambler's fallacy?

MyOneAndOnly 07-02-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072875)
Well I have to claim lack of experience but one of my mom's shit ex bf was a gambler thst was recovering for a while and he said that at some point almost always he was ahead. Maybe by 2$ maybe by 10$. Maybe by 50$. But he claimed there was rarely a night gambling on machines he wasn't after a while at some point ahead, or at least back to where he started, but it was never ahead enough. He didn't want to go home with ten bucks more than he had when he came in. It had to be worth it. tht's what he said anyway...

He was a liar. Other than counting cards there's no way lessen the houses advantage. Especially when gambling on a slot machine.

The Omega Concern 07-02-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4072588)
i got a system. I'm way ahead because of it. except when I lose shit tons of money. but I don't count that against myself. after all somebody's got to win.

#degenerategambler


Do you do this dance every day on the Dow?

O.K. sure, but there's no fundamental difference between that and hedge fund assholes and their bogus collateral driving housing bubbles worldwide. Oh wait, the difference is the banksters are way way way fucking worse and degenerate.

The Omega Concern 07-02-2014 10:11 PM

There was a tipping point a few years back when the ruling class money changers saw the likes of Pokerstars.net and other sites essentially running de-facto banks and were reaping the lifestyle of bankers all the while many people were making a living playing poker and able to stash their money in the websites. There was no problem with access to cash for anyone until the Feds stepped in and shut it all down.

Some excuse about not having enough in deposits to pay out should a run occur. Rather cheeky of big guv to move in like that considering the Trillions we're in debt because of these ruling elite money changers.


but go ahead, just view the guy at the card house as the degenerate if that suits your morality. I'm guessing you don't want to look at the real degenerate gamblers of the world since they have you and your 401k by the balls.

Trotskilicious 07-02-2014 10:27 PM

poker is actually very different than what we're talking about here

there's no "World Series of Slots"
"World Series of Roulette"
"World Series of Blackjack" (maybe?)

Wonder if there's a "World Series of Craps" though, because that one you can, like poker, play strategy on the odds and make consistent bank

The exploding boy 07-02-2014 10:52 PM

Yeah poker is not REALLY gambling. Well ok, it is if you're an amateur, the average person when playing poker is just gambling, because they only rely on the luck of the cards because they don't know how to bluff how to read cards and all that.

And erm...nobody brought up the government into this anyway.

I don't know how it works in the states but here in Quebec all gambling is run by the government anyway. Casinos, slots in bars, all lottery/scratch tickets whatever, it's all run by the state. As well it should. Well I think there's the natives casinos which aren't run by the state.

Trotskilicious 07-02-2014 11:18 PM

it's still a risk of course, but it's like any game. a good strategy and practice and knowledge can go along way to make you actually consistently good at it and even a professional

The Omega Concern 07-03-2014 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4072992)
it's still a risk of course, but it's like any game. a good strategy and practice and knowledge can go along way to make you actually consistently good at it and even a professional



Pagan had a setback in his rehab and is in Arizona seeing a back specialist. buzz is he may need surgery that will end his year (and the Giants too unless they can replace him). In the meantime, if you're the betting type, load up against the Giants for now (5-15 the last 3 weeks).

atm, Cards 2-0 over the Giants and their two hits through six innings.

Trotskilicious 07-03-2014 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4072682)
I don't get casinos or why people go to them.

to have that thing you never have, fun

Trotskilicious 07-03-2014 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Omega Concern (Post 4073018)
Pagan had a setback in his rehab and is in Arizona seeing a back specialist. buzz is he may need surgery that will end his year (and the Giants too unless they can replace him). In the meantime, if you're the betting type, load up against the Giants for now (5-15 the last 3 weeks).

atm, Cards 2-0 over the Giants and their two hits through six innings.

if i bet on baseball that would mean i'd have to follow it and that is something i will not do

Trotskilicious 07-03-2014 12:55 AM

give me some nba tips, can't trust fuzz because of the following

The exploding boy 07-03-2014 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4073030)
to have that thing you never have, fun

come on...losing money is fun?


that's like the opposite of fun right there.


I'll agree I don't find enough things fun (my gf says I'm anhedonic but clearly that's pushing it) but I don't think Casinos should be something anyone is expected to find fun.

killtrocity 07-03-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes (Post 4072679)
TOC's a smart guy, Very educated. I think you guys just get annoyed with him because he's always beating his drum loud and passionately while you guys just don't care to hear it.

TOC's incessant ranting has an accuracy rate on par with your gambling predictions. I personally don't have time to read things that are comprised of over 50% delusional bullshit

The exploding boy 07-03-2014 04:27 PM

Unfortunately it seems I do.

Though the novelty has already worn off.

Trotskilicious 07-03-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4073057)
come on...losing money is fun?


that's like the opposite of fun right there.


I'll agree I don't find enough things fun (my gf says I'm anhedonic but clearly that's pushing it) but I don't think Casinos should be something anyone is expected to find fun.

i mean it's basically the same as anything else when you get down to it

you lost money going to a concert
you lost money going to a sportsball match

i mean what's the difference if you lost money/won money at a casino? you don't have to gamble your entire savings to have a good time.

casinos are an amusement park for drunks.

The exploding boy 07-03-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4073115)
i mean it's basically the same as anything else when you get down to it

you lost money going to a concert
you lost money going to a sportsball match

i mean what's the difference if you lost money/won money at a casino? you don't have to gamble your entire savings to have a good time.

casinos are an amusement park for drunks.

True I guess.

Note that I also don't go to concerts or sports events.


but i still feel they're less a waste of money.


Of course between going to a casino and going to a bar to get wasted... not sure what is the biggest money sink.


Probably deep down I feel the only real justified way of using money is to eat, pay rent and electricity. Not because they're fun, just cause they're a necessity (well eating can be fun) Everytime I spend money on anything else I pretty much feel guilt. Or if I spend too much on food I don't really need.

Trotskilicious 07-03-2014 05:51 PM

i'm pretty proud of "casinos are an amusement park for drunks" bit tbh

fuzzyroes 07-03-2014 06:24 PM

It's the truth, if you go out for the evening, have a blast at a Casino on a Friday night, enjoy the entertainment, have some drinks, it's not that bad if you go away losing like 80 bucks because you had a good time for the night.

fuzzyroes 07-03-2014 06:24 PM

It can be a slippery slope sometimes though


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