Bowe Bergdahl = Impeach Obama
 

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because father's beard looks like taliban

It's plausible this kid was a spy. If so, everything your reading and seeing about this is bullshit.

i mean that's what we do when a the minority political opinion really doesn't like a president, right?

democracy happens!

No. Not when it's Democrats in charge of congress, because they'd all have to actually vote the same way on something and that almost never happens unless it's a spending bill.

I'm most proud this brings to light the ginormous clusterfuck that is Gitmo.

Someone mansplain to me how conservatism gets reconciled with indefinite detention?

Answer: racism

out of anything so far this would probably be the closest to a valid reason

have they done anything right since he won re-election? biggest win was the gov shutdown and that was more republican stupidity than anything else, then came the launch and well...hilarity

Looks like Obozo is covering for his flunkies mistakes by outing that CIA Chief in Afghanistan last week. Gets the VA off the hot burner for now as well, but both matters have the rank and file in the military pretty ticked off, which is likely the overall goal.

On the back end Holder is galvanizing a task force to look for 'domestic extremist', as this admin continues the march towards homeland tyranny just like it was all set up for starting with 9/11 and the Patriot Act.


War on Terror? You gotta chum for terrorist and expand the definition on the home front to justify all this surveillance.

actually a terrorist is anyone who uses violence against civilians to bring about a strategic end no matter what country they are from, but I understand you've struggled with comprehending what words mean in the past

lately FB it seems like you're just half assing this whole obama cynic thing because you're running out of shit to complain about

Now that's what I call edgy.

it's important to criticize obammy but to put it in this chicken little terminology that the sky is falling and everything he's done has been a complete disaster...it begs the question whether or not FB thinks we're actually worse off than we were six years ago

if his answer is yes then you just have to shake your head with pity

Nah dude he's so fuckin objective. Just look at how objective he is.

I can't obviously because I've had him on ignore for years but you can.

"have they done anything right since re-election"

followed by "the launch of the website sucked" and the gov shutdown...

there's literally nothing else he's got

a bad website launch. a website that is now functional. seriously this is something that he puts down as "stuff obama did wrong"

something that was blown out of proportion and has since been forgotten about because it wasn't really that important in the first place

i've been guilty of being a spoiled liberal whining about the ACA because there was no public option but now that i know a lot more about it, and see how it impacts lives directly, i can't help but feel foolish for being so adamant that it sucked because of the lack of a public option

now if you get fired because you have to go through chemotherapy, you can get new insurance AND THEY WON'T TELL YOU SORRY WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR CANCER TREATMENTS BECAUSE IT'S A PRE EXISTING CONDITION

LIKE A BUNCH OF FUCKING NAZI MONSTERS

i mean yeah the website being broke was a snafu and bad for PR but the people who remember it six months after the fact weren't voting for bammers or democrats in the first place, and the general public who were upset about it at the time have now shifted focus to Jonah hill calling someone a faggot and don't remember healthcare.gov

WHICH FUCKING WORKS NOW BTW

I don't really post much politics anymore so I don't get the lately part. my feelings on the aca remain unchanged, the facts of it remain unchanged, the good doesnt offset the bad. if you were unaware of the help it provided people before then way to be ignorant and uninformed, I don't see how that is somehow my shortcoming. that post was more about politics than policy. has there been anything other than the shutdown that wasn't misplayed? it's actually important for the dems that the dem whitehouse look competent. I would hope I don't have to explain why even though Obama isn't running again. and I didn't even touch on the legality bs going on in this swap.

the website isn't fully functional yet btw, you can curse and scream about it more but it won't change that

but here's a few questions trots

where'd you learn about the aca actually being super mega awesome?

how are we better off now than six years ago? this doesn't mean I say we are or arent, but you clearly do and feel this matters, so please elaborate

when will you learn that in the end I'm usually right anyway?

when it comes to criticizing or crediting the ACA as usually it seems to boil down to whether you hate the black president or not.

I am a proponent of real socialized medicine. Not just single payer like Canada, but something more akin to France's system. But I'm also rational enough to admit that without the ACA we would have continued on terrible trend. IE. the good far outweighs the bad.

shut the fuck up Scotty

how do you figure, sportsfan

i don't think anything "plays well" in a 24 hour news cycle that nitpicks to the point where a functional website still doesn't "work" as per you.

plays well compared to what? The GOP self-combusting in lunacy? I mean seriously what is it not playing well to? You? Leftists who care more about principle than practicality?

and if you really need me to explain how we're better off now than we were in 2008 then i can't help you

don't worry FB just two more years til Hillary

You don't understand your own intellectual shit you wallow in.


You definitely don't understand the complexity of a tyranny when it starts to clamp down and EXPAND THE DEFINITION of terror. Here's an example:


Government Treated Peaceful Boycott As Terrorism




http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...cott-terrorism

yeah but Im right, so ok. Ignoring the media side of politics, smart plan, let me know how it works.


the middle, duh. you know there is a sizeable chunk of the public that could really go either way on stuff, and looking like fools doesnt help sway them to your side. You do not belong in this group Trots, but it exists. There are people out there that.......wait for it...dont think like you. I know, fucking weird right? Take a minute to consider that.

Thats not really accurate but you dont have much to hang your hat on so go for it.

I dont need anything, I want to hear what YOU think we are better on now compared to then. This seemed important enough for you to mention as far as my line of thinking, when it really had zero to do with what I said. Well then explain yourself on it.

dont skip this. the good in the bill has been known since the beginning, even Ive acknowledge it. So for you to say you werent aware of it and were only bitching about the PO is pretty surprising to be honest. Im thinking either you benefited from it when you lost your job, or it involves your new non-profit job somehow.

pretty sure Ive said this before on here, but in case I havent then:

I dont really want her to run.

please Omega, we're trying to have a discussion here

da fuq you smoking? There's a litany of over the top bullshit coming from the Emperor with no clothes. It's a weekly clusterfuck now. I can overlook the continuation of drug and gun running and even the bogus mercenary induced "Arab Spring" because alot of that is carry over from previous admin's. He's just a puppet after all.


But Barry comes from the land of Marx and that IRS intimidation on political opponents in such a now obvious manner stretches by leaps and bounds what's been done before. How bout that "I'm good at killing people" quote commenting on the drone program. You think a Republican would survive the media onslaught from such a quip?



Glorified college prof surrounded by sycophants to their Utopian nanny state ideal. I think they thought they would get a boost from this, but its been anything but and it comes on the heals of the VA monstrosity starting to stick to him.


I heard a poll today saying it was a 45-45 split on whether this Bergahl trade was a good move or not. Getting back a POW should be a 90-10 spread in favor. It's like a 'what's your feeling on puppies' type a question. Top Dems are backpeddling so who knows what might happen.

please dont help me

alrighty, rant over.


I'll stick to topic:



Senators Show Frustration After Briefing on Ex-P.O.W.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/05/wo...-pow.html?_r=0



That's whats going on today with this.


Here's an interesting peak into the past:


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...f-war-20120607





America's Last Prisoner of War




Michael Hastings. The reporter who made a call to arms to his fellow journalist to clamp down on this administration on the national TV Sunday talk shows, then two days later wrapped his BMW into a tree on a residential road at 85 mph. This after he was telling friends he was worried he was being followed and even asked a friend to borrow their car, but they refused.


Nobody really paid much attention to this article when it was released. But the FBI did. They considered "controversial journalism". I'm the middle of it now, its a hell of a read.

I have my own point of view, what makes you think it has anything to do with you? I know you awake, so stop tripping.

missing the point as usual, what i'm getting at is the Most Terrible Thing Ever happens every other day and is forgotten about by the next Most Terrible Thing occurs and it seems not to matter over the long run

You mean the middle that re-elected obama and is increasingly more scared of the increasingly more fringe GOP? That middle?


and not a single shred of reasoning or examples or anything resembling an academic argument, come on man...

yeah perhaps i got a new perspective on things because new shit has come to light, maybe i was too selfish to understand the scope but where is your reasoning, were are your examples, what is really behind your criticism of the ACA other than cynical bitterness?

at this point FB the onus is on you to actually provide some examples to really cement your criticism, but you still relentlessly push it onto me as if i owe it to you to explain to you why i'm saying that all you do is moan about how the sky is falling

i'm not any more a fan of our wholly corrupt system than ever but with you it's about OBAMA not AMERICA and you STILL can't really give us an actual outline of what exactly your problem is, and you never have

we are bringing troops home and ending the full scale wars in iraq and afghanistan and you ask how is it possible that we're better off than we are under bush? are you really that completely myopic?

not really

this is funny. I think you need to take another minute.

nothing new has come to light, seriously, nothing. You've changed your position, Im asking why. You can provide it or not, but if you feel on calling me out on this nonsense then explain your change of heart. does it truly honestly just boil down to, oopsie-i wasnt paying attention before.


See heres the thing Trots, Ive given my reasoning, and it was solid enough at the time that you either didnt question it, or maybe were simply not paying attention to it, but I feel absolutely no desire to repeat myself for someone that will automatically criticize me with this tired bullshit that Ive been hearing here for years, especially when I didnt even criticize the ACA! I mentioned the website launch fucked the dem momentum gained from the gov shutdown, how is that even remotely controversial?

The launch was a total clusterfuck, like complete, theres no denying that. Any honest person that 100% supports the ACA cannot deny its launch was anything other than an embarrassment. But yet you felt the need to come to its defense, either because its helping your checking account or you honestly just bothered to inform yourself about shit that happened 4 yrs ago. And Im supposed to what, explain myself to someone that didnt bother to read me the first time, didnt bother to just ask me what I thought about it, but is totally comfortable enough to just launch this type of shit at me:

Well, no. Fuck you, I already have, look for it if you care to, if not then dont. and for the millionth god damn time: Obama is a Pol doing what pols do. I hate the dem supporters like scotty, rbg, and others that clearly fucking know better but cheer or accept shit simply because its democratic shit. Fucking useless. But you guys are practical, if nothing else you have that going for you.

Like, I got favorite pols, Barney frank, Uncle Joe, and pols that I hope join arlen spectre in hell. But honestly who doesnt hate arlen spectre? his family doesnt count. Obama isnt in either group.

wars end, big whoop, but you know america-fuck yeah
so, anything else?

the helicopter

and the website didn't really affect me positively or negatively but i do know for sure that you consume too much media and you think it was a bigger deal than it actually was. but by all means just continue to suck down the blogosphere and pretend like you aren't just completely enveloped in its nihilistic obsession with being completely petty