Its also funny that many of the components of the ACA were already in place prior to the insurance marketplaces.

But the launch was a "failure"

Keep moving the goalposts

???

what should be involved in health care, then?

still blaming the ACA and marketplace for the insurance industry

You were on my facebook for months. I have to wonder what you really think about me. Not sure why you're being nasty today. Whatever...

and still not explaining to me how the pre-ACA status quo was getting people the treatment they need and the drugs they want and paying for the surgeries they required

no, that's how you would define the launch.

this isn't very hard here people

i'm not being nasty! i haven't said you were stupid or an idiot or personally insulting to you. yeah i said you "sound like a republican" because you kind of do

i like you bunches, i just think you're going about this the wrong way

but c'est la vie

i am tired, i wish debaser was here

ultimately i don't hold this against you

just futureboy

well i wasn't really sure if you were always joking to be honest, you got that deadpan

I haven't said anything about the components of aca, Trotskys even mentioned it a few times now, are you confusing me and Starla

what why, I'm like 100% with Starla

because your phony know-it-all crap has worn thin and the fact that for six years you have steadfastly refused to make any sort of substantive argument while demanding others to do so in response to your vague cynical snark is just incredible

i mean if this is all a troll, masterful work. you've kept it up for nearly six years now!

oh ok

that's completely wrong btw, and I would destroy every piece of it if I felt like typing with anything other than Swype,

the helicopter

Why does it matter what I sound like? I'm conservative on some issues, and lean to the left on others. I've already said many times, I'm tired of the dem and repub parties.

I thought I recognized you from GLP :cool:

pm me your handle, we'll rule two boards

well talk about how trots crush on you keeps him from attacking you and holding things against you

you can't really have your cake and eat it too, you have to have a consistent ideology

i think you already know how i feel about parties/our "democracy"

shut the fuck up you creep

here scotty, as promised
 

see we cant do it here he'll get all touchy

i'm gonna go HAM all over you dogg

lol come on...

Sadly, I'm just an AC. Thanks to obamacare, I can't afford to pay $10 a month there.

No. you're like a broken record. You keep making comments about how the ACA is hurting people. But if you look at the measurable effects of the law, like health care costs, enrollment numbers, etc. most of you comments don't make any sense and sound wildly subjective. What you're really complaining about are benefits or services that the ACA doesn't provide for. But that was the case BEFORE the ACA, so how do rationalize blaming one thing after another on it?

The ACA only does so much. If you want universal affordable coverage you'd need a national single payer program, either fully socialized or "Medicare" style like Canada or Japan that has strict cost controls.

If you want that you first need to have a majority of Americans who want it. otherwise conservatives in both parties aren't going to implement anything like that.

this argument has been hashed out with starla 10+ times. she doesn't care about utilitarianism.

well she also doesn't seem willing to answer my questions either

What? Cherry picking different things from the right and the left often ends up with contradicting principles eg "I want low taxes but better social services."

and that's why our country sucks and our democracy doesn't work

"I want the health care industry to be fixed but I want the federal government to be small and stay out of our lives."