i'm really proud of my Plymouth reliant restoration

7 billion people on the planet and these 200 deaths are news?

shut the fuck up scotty

this is definitely not one of those situations

The passport issue could be a distraction. For it to come up so soon after the plane went missing is suspect.


If passports were not detected at the time before the plane took off what made them detectable after it went missing ?

The people pronounced on the flight had press conferences they had their identity stolen.

Stolen passports are not uncommon, esp in SE Asia.

obama shot the plane down as a distraction from his inability to contend with Ubermensch Putin. the two of them have been having battles of the will through their White House/Kremlin Palantirs every night, and it has been wearing on Obama's mind


http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordp.../palantir2.jpg

How do stolen passports get by security and onto the plane if they were checked? How else could the ID's of those stolen passports be known if they weren't checked?

have you ever been to an airport in a developing country

Stolen passports on the Malaysian airline -- How is that not known before they get on the plane and then known after the plane went missing?


I take it its just a visual check of the Passports on entry. Interpol checks them when the plane is listed as missing and there they are, stolen passports. Too bad the airlines are not allowed to use the system Interpol has to track stolen id's.










:O

INTERPOL has report millions of passports weren't run against their database from airlines. You're fishing up the wrong creek.

Do you realize stolen passports in Thailand are insanely common and the first thing you're told to watch for when there?

Right this can't be a real question. It could have been a visual check only, or even the real systems-integrated check because a stolen passport can easily be used without any problems until it is reported. Obviously.

In this case, the government probably attempted to reach out to family members only to find out the person wasn't on the plane. I mean, I go through airport without a single soul talking to me until I am already seated since you can do everything on the machines. Schengen area but still. I took a bus out of Schegen once and it was just the driver of the bus writing down passport numbers.:rofl:

Also, for the US and the European Union this pre-check for travelers already exists and is generated as soon as a person buys an international ticket. When the person goes through customs or immigration there is a risk analysis report for that particular person. Of course, again, if a passport is not reported stolen they would not have the real information.

Look on the bright side. First of all, nobody on the ground was killed. An incident like this, over a populated urban center? That right there, that’s some sort of minor miracle. Plus, neither plane was full. What, the 737 was something like, I believe, two-thirds full? Yeah? Maybe three-quarters? At any rate, what you’re left with casualty-wise is the fiftieth-worst air disaster. Tied for fiftieth, actually. There were actually fifty-three crashes through history that are just as bad or worse. Tenerife. Anybody ever hear of Tenerife, in the Canary Islands? In 1977, two fully loaded 747s crashed into each other on Tenerife. You know how big a 747 is? Way bigger than a 737 -- and we’re talking two of them! Mind-boggling, really. Almost six hundred people died. Any of you ever even heard of that? I doubt it! Because you know why? People move on. They move on. And we will, too. We’ll move on. We will get past this. Because that’s what human beings do! We survive, and-and we survive and we overcome. So. Yeah

They are on an island and will be rescued and huge world wide celebrities in a few years before leaving to go back to the island where all plot lines will cease to be coherent and will only be explained by it being magic.

As I understand it, law enforcement can check the Interpol database for stolen passports, not the airlines.


Missing plane though is mysterious. All sorts of scenarios could be had. China just dealt with a terrorist attack the other day, this could tie in.

this.


or along those lines, the intellectual capital of the 20 techies on board are too good to be left to a CIA front company like Freescale. So, they've been rounded up from this flight and are revealing secrets post haste.

Yes the 777 has landed safely on an island where the pax are sipping Mai Tai's and roasting pigs

Jesus Christ.

He probably saved them, you're right.

Pentagon Data Suggests Jet Didn't Explode: New York Times


"Preliminary surveillance data" examined by the Pentagon suggests the missing Malaysia Airlines jet did not explode over the South China Sea, according to The New York Times.

The newspaper cited a U.S. government official who spoke on the condition of anonymity as suggesting "a system that looks for flashes around the world" had not identified any sign of a blast.




http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...k-times-n48186




That report seems to conflict with this one, unless a plane can disintegrate without making a flash:


Missing Malaysian jet may have disintegrated in mid-air: source



Officials investigating the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner with 239 people on board suspect it may have disintegrated in mid-flight, a senior source said on Sunday, as Vietnam reported a possible sighting of wreckage from the plane.



http://news.yahoo.com/missing-malays...M3BHNlYwNzcg--

you cant honestly blame them for missing the passport stuff omega they all look alike

omega that was a reference to a television show

trots that shows was only aired to prepare the world for the real thing, fuck man

It can happen, but the plane might have nosedived into the sea too. You need to stop posting in this thread.

yes, captain obvious.

the plane is missing. some scenarios more plausible than others. in fact, this event is so ripe for open questioning of what happened maybe that's the ultimate motive. Someone certainly played the terrorist theme very early on here.


if i'm reading between the lines of the Pentagon report correctly, they are alluding to China's recent progression into invisibility cloaks.


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...king-tech.html

You need to expand your thinking because the plane is still missing officially. To use a couple reports off each other, if the Pentagon claims are accurate then it didn't explode and broke up due to mechanical failure at 35,000 feet, which is what the Malaysian authorities are suggesting at this time because of the lack of debris, which there would be more of it had nosedived, as you suggest.

No, there would be very large debris field if it disintegrated at 35,000'. If it nosedived it'd be a much smaller field, and if it tried a water landing it might gave sank completely.

A mechanical failure would very, very likely give time to mayday. There has been iirc no example of this happening in modern airplanes, for the record.

if you actually understood this concept you might not be so fucked in the head

No example of what?

i stole a plane once. if you think about it there are actually lots of places to hide a stolen plane

derelict warehouses, detroit, antarctica once you've removed the decals

i think at the end of the day we have to sit down and ask, what's more plausible: that everything is intentional, has a story, that some humans really are smart enough to coordinate pretty much everything that happens, that there are no accidents? or that we're just a bunch of talking monkeys in a disinterested universe who are far too prone to take credit for things we never had any influence over and to invent narratives when we lack information?

i don't care about philosophy or whatever i just want to play football

i can't speak for anyone else but i'd like to think we live in a world where it's possible to get away with stealing a plane in order to round up people who coincidentally ended up travelling together. i don't want to lose that feeling of magic

has anyone been on a plane full of screaming people due to turbulence?

i posed this question to tim recently and he said he once experienced abnormal aircraft movement and some people yelping in their seats.

i have not, but a plane i was on did run into bad weather and i grew concerned. so concerned that i fell asleep.

Yes. I was once on a plane that was flying through a tropical depression and was experiencing a lot of turbulence. We were falling for a few seconds over and over, but the pilot said it was fine and it felt bad but it was fine. Then we hit one of those pockets, but we free fell for about 15-20 seconds. Everyone was screaming. We all started pushing against our seat belts, like we were not falling as fast as the plane so we were "floating" in our seats (not sure how to describe this). Then everyone was silent for the rest of the flight. Extremely quiet.

i think at that point it would have been brown trousers time for me

It felt like a two minutes but I think time just did that slowing down thing. We then had a stop at a tiny airport in Mississippi that had like five employees (some people were done there, but most weren't). No food except vending machines. We were there for like 3-4 hours. We boarded the plane once and then got told to get off again. When we finally took off shit was spooky. I thought I wouldn't fly again but I have once. This was in... 2001 I believe. Did I mention the plane only held like 40 people? The rows were one on one side and two on the other.

like the ocean!

mechanical failure without a mayday