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Eulogy 02-10-2014 01:12 AM

If you want to be a misogynist apologist that's your business. As I said, I have no time for that shit anymore.

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 01:14 AM

apologist.

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 01:14 AM

i'm a misogynist apologist for recognizing cognitive biases in others.

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 01:14 AM

alright.

Trotskilicious 02-10-2014 01:23 AM

no tolerance, burn the unbelievers with righteous flame

redbreegull 02-10-2014 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4036204)
His response to an inquiry regarding someone who thinks men are as oppressed as women was to defend that person's idea as reasonable. An opinion I think is poisoned by privilege.

except one these people is a woman, so do I just chalk this up to mental deficiency? She's telling me I am being sexist by painting women as perpetual victims when they are "strong and always have been"


I told her she was an anti-feminist

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 01:28 AM

no time for them

redbreegull 02-10-2014 01:31 AM

"we don't need your pity"

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 01:34 AM

it's really quite a shame though. the messaging has been strong and persistent enough to where many women have a completely warped perception of what feminism actually is.

Trotskilicious 02-10-2014 01:39 AM

or make jokes about how terrible feminists are

redbreegull 02-10-2014 02:26 AM

this chick believes that men and women have been discriminated against differently but that it's equal when you measure it out. Also, I am apparently a sexist because I see sexism. And if you don't see sexism, it disappears! ta da!

redbreegull 02-10-2014 02:28 AM

hey did you fellows know that because women can be nurses and teachers my argument that women are discriminated against in the workplace is invalid?

redbreegull 02-10-2014 02:29 AM

I have to stop arguing with people in facebook but it's so hard when someone says something that infuriating. I kind of don't understand why everyone doesn't just gang up on them and make them shut up. I guess it's just something I need to work on, but I am so easily filled with righteous anger and want to smite the enemy

slunken 02-10-2014 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4036237)
this chick believes that men and women have been discriminated against differently

as i was saying - i think this is totally fair

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4036237)
but that it's equal when you measure it out.

but this is where i would draw the line

slunken 02-10-2014 02:34 AM

it's nice to see eulogy attempt to enter the discussion and call two people names though.

lawyers, ladies and gentlemen. lawyers.

Bread Regal 02-10-2014 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4036239)
I have to stop arguing with people in facebook but it's so hard when someone says something that infuriating. I kind of don't understand why everyone doesn't just gang up on them and make them shut up. I guess it's just something I need to work on, but I am so easily filled with righteous anger and want to smite the enemy

whenever you feel tempted to argue with someone on facebook just follow these three simple steps

1) stop
2) drop your trousers
3) have a wank

slunken 02-10-2014 02:36 AM

a friend of mine had a twitter-war the other day with a religious music group about making art for god vs making art for man/self but she gave herself away within the first few comments when she admitted she wasn't sober. just something to chew on.

slunken 02-10-2014 02:38 AM

ROBOT VOICE: NO TIME FOR HUMAN LIFE - MUST APPLY BLANKET JUDGEMENTS

reprise85 02-10-2014 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4036217)
If you want to be a misogynist apologist that's your business. As I said, I have no time for that shit anymore.

Some people are just misinformed or brainwashed. They are persuadable, and it is a good thing to show them your side. You can't do that by ignoring them or calling them names. You have to appeal to what is right about what they are saying, and then introduce, logically, why other things are also true.

I mean, most people have a stupid or ignorant opinion about something. It doesn't make them bad, not worth talking to, or beyond redemption.

Trotskilicious 02-10-2014 03:04 AM

those who have not yet ascribed to my value system are heretics and must be purged

redbreegull 02-10-2014 03:11 AM

well 200 comments later it's over, it was civil for awhile but eventually the guy said I was being a dick to women and I told him to go fuck off. Then the chick finally conceded women face huge amounts of workplace discrimination but still insists that men are oppressed as much, just in different, less publicized ways

redbreegull 02-10-2014 03:11 AM

ways we don't even know about

redbreegull 02-10-2014 03:12 AM

but that she has measured as equal to institutionalized subjugation since the dawn of history

Trotskilicious 02-10-2014 03:23 AM

yes yes we're all oppressed by gender roles in different ways blah blah blah

Future Boy 02-10-2014 03:40 AM

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Cool As Ice Cream 02-10-2014 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread Regal (Post 4036242)
whenever you feel tempted to argue with someone on facebook just follow these three simple steps

1) stop
2) drop your trousers
3) have a wank

4) banned from the library now

T&T 02-10-2014 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 4036255)
4) banned from the library now

worked out for me. two other homeless guys joined in.

Cool As Ice Cream 02-10-2014 04:19 AM

so i guess you won the facebook argument then, with the help of two extra people?

T&T 02-10-2014 04:22 AM

the library wank worked out. I abstained from the FB argument

redbreegull 02-10-2014 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 4036257)
so i guess you won the facebook argument then, with the help of two extra people?

what? no, I was arguing against two other people


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