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hnibos 02-05-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4035591)

all I'm saying is, I'm not surprised and I'm not sure why others are either

50 billion dollars or whatever and it's the olympics.

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:31 PM

duovamp, russia is a developing country and most people who live there are poor. as. shit. there are places in russia where people still live the way they did in the era of the czars. also, this looks like 50 billion to me right here. why is it surprising that 50 billion was not enough to turn a city in a despotic wasteland into something even remotely equal to Vancouver, fucking Canada?


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_2719021b.jpg

duovamp 02-05-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4035599)
duovamp, russia is a developing country and most people who live there are poor. as. shit.

So basically you're completely missing the point. What's upsetting is that this shit (from the link I posted and you didn't click and read):

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All told, Rotenberg-controlled companies have won Olympics-related contracts worth $7.4 billion. In the last two years, according to a report compiled by Russian political-opposition figures Boris Nemtsov and Leonid Martynyuk, the Rotenbergs’ personal fortune has increased by $2.5 billion.
happens in a place where so many people are living in destitute poverty. These Olympic games aren't about proving anything. It's about finding another way to squeeze more money out of the people and hand it to the wealthy few.

duovamp 02-05-2014 11:35 PM

But you're saying it's acceptable because there are some poor-ass people in Russia. Okay, you got me there.

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 4035603)
But you're saying it's acceptable because there are some poor-ass people in Russia. Okay, you got me there.

are you retarded


you said it's not a developing country, it really is. your other point had nothing to do with that

duovamp 02-05-2014 11:39 PM

No no no, everything that we've seen so far in Sochi is perfectly fine because poors.

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:42 PM

ok, so you are retarded.

duovamp 02-05-2014 11:44 PM

Okay yep, and if you spend 50 billion dollars on Sochi, it's all going directly into hard costs which is why those pipes are the best Russia could do with their money.


Not because of corruption.



Because the equivalent of $50,000,000,000 only gets you bowls with water in Russia. No flushing.

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:49 PM

Athens had the olympics not too long ago and you certainly cannot flush toilet paper there, the streets are covered in dog shit, and you aren't supposed to drink tap water. And this is in a fully developed, modern cosmopolitan city.

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:50 PM

look up before and after pictures of sochi and think for a few minutes about how much it costs to redevelop an entire city

duovamp 02-05-2014 11:53 PM

What are you even saying? Two wrongs make a right? It's okay because Russia is doing now what Greece did 10 years ago?

redbreegull 02-05-2014 11:55 PM

I think we are not talking about the same thing

pavementtune 02-06-2014 12:03 AM

Didn't the costs for one Olympic stadion triple because the company in charge did god knows what with the money? And then big guy Putin stepped in and promised all will be finished in time and no more bullshit because he found the black sheep and blabla.

Plus they built tunnels, streets, hundreds of trains etc.
Forget about the toilets, but water that's at least safe to wash yourself should be a priority over Athlete lounges with Play Stations (which they have), don't you agree on that rbg?

I won't argue that companies, investors and sponsors of this whole thing aren't likely corrupt.
But again - London managed child sized beds for athletes and a sanitary system that flooded the Olympic village with shit when it started raining. London.

redbreegull 02-06-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pavementtune (Post 4035627)

Plus they built tunnels, streets, hundreds of trains etc.
Forget about the toilets, but water that's at least safe to wash yourself should be a priority over Athlete lounges with Play Stations (which they have), don't you agree on that rbg?

of course, but I think the olympics are a sham in a much larger sense.

on this particular issue, I'm just struggling to understand why people are so surprised at how fucked up Russia is, poverty, corruption, all of it, if these are worldly travelers expressing awe at how crappy things are. why is it so shocking that their olympics are corrupt and put together like shit? that sounds exactly like what anyone could have predicted

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 01:36 AM

redbreegull when you talk about russia, you sound like you are unaware of west virginia

russia is not "developing" it is "emerging" back onto the stage as a world power

yeah gross income discrepancy blah blah blah america is so better or something

pavementtune 02-06-2014 01:43 AM

Actually I expected worse but it hasn't even started yet. Knocking on wood and all, but the constructions... ya I know, safety inspections, but they were in a damn hurry to finish it all in time.

World Cup this summer will be the next fun.

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 01:49 AM

the sprawling favelas outside of the city of gold, a randian paradise

Order 66 02-06-2014 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 4035652)
america is so better

this

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 01:51 AM

hey at least they haven't gotten to outlaw homosexual propaganda here

yet

Order 66 02-06-2014 02:00 AM

a boy can dream...

redbreegull 02-06-2014 02:03 AM

not until toc becomes grand poobah.

JESUSNEEDSAHIT 02-06-2014 02:09 AM

Not suprising russia can't put on the olympics properly. Totally fucked by communism forever. If you saw the chinese olympics last year those looked great because chinese are much smarter than russians

JESUSNEEDSAHIT 02-06-2014 02:11 AM

russians are like the red neck of europeans

pavementtune 02-06-2014 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JESUSNEEDSAHIT (Post 4035668)
Not suprising russia can't put on the olympics properly.

Then the ones who decided it's smart to make child sized beds for the Summer Olympics weren't Brits?

JESUSNEEDSAHIT 02-06-2014 02:39 AM

what? were talking about RUSSIANS

*we were

pavementtune 02-06-2014 02:43 AM

Yea, and I'm comparing the inability of Russians to get the Olympics right to the inability London showed in 2012.

Also the Euro red necks are Bulgarians, everyone knows that.

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 03:53 AM

uh i think the london games were a big hit

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 03:58 AM

there's a lot of really stupid things about russia in this thread

"despotic wasteland"

WASTELAND DUDE WILL YOU JUST GOOGLE SOME SHIT ALREADY

"rednecks of europe"

yes because tolstoy and stravinsky are just yokels with jug bands

"developing country"

motherfucker russia is a major player always, to paraphrase "that phrase i do not think it means what you think it means"

yeah people are poor there. people are poor everywhere. and greece's economy is in no way even remotely as strong as russias, ever. in history. well maybe ancient greece.

Order 66 02-06-2014 03:59 AM

skyrim belongs to the nords

Trotskilicious 02-06-2014 03:59 AM

and all this arm waving about i'm not sure exactly, lake placid was practically a guy in an ice fishing lodge before the olympics showed up, this is not new.


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