a boner does not equal consent

yeah

it's not the same because we're talking about the lord and master of the american government compared to a guy who is barely in command of a TGI Fridays

similar not the same

the power differential is different, but they areequally objectionable.

i'm certainly not trying to argue what is or what is not rape but a lot of it has to do with "assumed power", to me.

what about the classic scenario of moving to a new town to start a job, having a one-night stand, and then finding out the next day that that person is your new boss. is it rape if you continue the relationship or is it okay because you met on equal grounds?

or in my case what if i always disregarded the authority of my GM and just saw her as a peer and no one to be afraid of or held accountable toward?

for every boss that takes advantage sexually of an employee aren't there just as many people who try to sleep their way to the top?

yeah i bet there's lots of slutty women trying to sex their way to the top of the food service industry

wow you know what i never thought of it i guess workplace harassment is ok

@ trots - the 2nd of my 3 replies was the only one referring to my situation and is notated as such

i don't think either of those scenarios are terribly common. just mentioning that they both exist.

i almost feel like this is creating a blanket statement based around a class system - you can never have sex with someone out of your league because one of you will be a victim

when anna nicole smith married that old man was she the victim because of his power and wealth or was he the victim because she was trying to get his money?

the situation you described is kind of easy. as long as the superior doesn't initate any unwanted sexual advances, theycan have a health working relationship.

when tom cruise married the girl from dawson's creek would it have been not ok if she was just a waitress and not an actress?

the old man got his knob polished and she got a shitload of cash when he croaked. that sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship between two adults to me. was she an employee of his? no? who cares, then.

again to reiterate i'm not picking a fight these are honest questions

this isn't a question of dating people out of your league.

i think katy holmes met tom on the set of a movie that he was the boss of - could be wrong though

and they divorced and she's getting therapy to remove the programming

if that's true, yeah that's creepy. if they were to become romantically involved after that, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

all the accounts i recall re:lewinsky was that the sexual advances were made by her. she seduced him.

tom cruise is probably an executive producer of every movie he works on at this point

that's what i was assuming

yeah poor bill

yeah he was just an innocent ol' serial adulterer with multiple instances of him fuckin around

"Hey it's not my fault that everybody wanna get up on ol' Bubba's deeyick." ~ William J. Clinton

he was the best goddam president i ever saw

maybe TOC can explain to use how she was a plant used to run him out of office

which of these threads is about dr. who