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Starla 11-28-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureBoy (Post 4025411)
probably all that Jew in him

FB what is your nationality and religious beliefs?

Future Boy 11-28-2013 12:55 AM

american, i worship money

Future Boy 11-28-2013 12:56 AM

some might say Im a mexican catholic, but really what do they know

Starla 11-28-2013 12:59 AM

I like Catholics...

Future Boy 11-28-2013 01:04 AM

of course, we're awesome

Future Boy 11-28-2013 01:05 AM

is probably what a catholic would say, but really what do they know

Trotskilicious 11-28-2013 01:07 AM

nothing but guilt

killtrocity 11-29-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4025524)
I was very firmly of this belief but there are recent studies of mitochondrial DNA that have traced the majority of Ashkenazi Jews back to a single group that was expelled from the Israel area when the Romans tore that shit up. Obviously very intermingled with Europeans at this point, but there is scientific evidence for a common ancestry, which is basically what we see as race anyway

google "epigenetics"

redbreegull 11-29-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by killtrocity (Post 4025954)
google "epigenetics"

sorry I'm not good enough with biology to really understand even the wiki on that beyond the fact that it has to do with inheritable traits not caused by changes in DNA. I see how this can apply to groups or populations of human beings but couldn't find anything specifically about race. what are you getting at?

MyOneAndOnly 11-30-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull (Post 4025524)
I was very firmly of this belief but there are recent studies of mitochondrial DNA that have traced the majority of Ashkenazi Jews back to a single group that was expelled from the Israel area when the Romans tore that shit up. Obviously very intermingled with Europeans at this point, but there is scientific evidence for a common ancestry, which is basically what we see as race anyway

In this thread a jew argues that jews are their own race because science

MyOneAndOnly 11-30-2013 11:26 AM

Mitochondrial DNA only traces DNA passed through the mother. What about the father? For that matter, we're all African if you go back far enough. Keep going back and we're all reptilian

Future Boy 11-30-2013 08:05 PM

whats after that

Trotskilicious 11-30-2013 08:23 PM

why are these motherfuckers talking about midichloreans

Future Boy 11-30-2013 08:44 PM

starwars marathon on spike

Starla 11-30-2013 10:36 PM

ain't nobody got time for that

Trotskilicious 12-01-2013 04:33 AM

I GOT BRONCHITIS

slunken 12-02-2013 01:48 PM

JESUS CHRIST

yo soy el mejor 12-02-2013 03:18 PM

CHEESE AND RICE

slunken 12-02-2013 03:21 PM

EULOGY FUCK

yo soy el mejor 12-02-2013 03:24 PM

ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME VOMIT?

slunken 12-02-2013 03:47 PM

SMOOCHY

redbreegull 12-02-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand (Post 4026142)
Mitochondrial DNA only traces DNA passed through the mother. What about the father? For that matter, we're all African if you go back far enough. Keep going back and we're all reptilian

I'm not sure what your point is. That there is no biological basis for race? We all know that already except for Nimrod's Son.

What we see as race is basically what could be described as the "boy/girl marries boy/girl next door effect." Because people only really reproduced with others with very close geographic origin to themselves until very recently in history, most people in any given part of the world have stronger "familial" ties to other people in that part of the world than elsewhere. This is what our brains process as "race." It's essentially just family resemblance. When you look at overall genetic diversity on Earth, there is more diversity within any given population or "race" than there is between what we see as races, which is why the concept cannot be quantified scientifically. But those few phenotypes which our brains have been trained to see so prominently do convey to us the general closeness of ancestry between different people although obviously it is very possible to be wrong if want to make those kinds of guesses. Native Australians and New Zealanders are more closely related to white Europeans than to black Africans.

but none of this has anything to do with what I was actually saying, which was just that most European Jews have direct ancestry from a single line of people. I don't see why it matters that mitochondrial DNA is passed by maternity unless you are arguing I am wrong because women don't count as people. This "familial" closeness of European Jews is just as legitimate a basis for race as any other.

Trotskilicious 12-02-2013 06:24 PM

Juropean Eews

Order 66 12-02-2013 06:32 PM

alot of people try and get all philosophical and saynwe came from DNA or whatever. i do believe that, but at the same time i think it came from adam and eve


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