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killtrocity 11-16-2013 01:46 AM

Waht are your thoughts on the veracity of this article?
 
http://usahitman.com/microwave-test/

http://usahitman.com/wp-content/uplo...s8-550x366.jpg

It's been passed around the internet for a few months.

Future Boy 11-16-2013 01:59 AM

im against it

killtrocity 11-16-2013 02:00 AM

why

reprise85 11-16-2013 02:26 AM

i understand about half of those words

killtrocity 11-16-2013 02:36 AM

shit i didn't even post the right fucking article. sorry let me edit it

reprise85 11-16-2013 02:43 AM

ah, much better

they need to do blind studies for me to take it seriously

reprise85 11-16-2013 02:44 AM

del

Future Boy 11-16-2013 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killtrocity (Post 4023292)
why

principle

yo soy el mejor 11-16-2013 03:49 AM

you first.

slunken 11-16-2013 04:23 AM

http://nothingbutmemory.net/red/wp-c...-armed-man.jpg

...and that's why you never put liquor in the microwave.

Bread Regal 11-16-2013 11:42 AM

because microwaves don't actually do anything chemical to water?

reprise85 11-16-2013 01:01 PM

also not sure the affect of the pruning after day one. needs more study.

MyOneAndOnly 11-16-2013 01:27 PM

total nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

microwaves do nothing to change the chemical structure of water.

killtrocity 11-16-2013 03:10 PM

Yes, exactly! You're all correct. :)

Bread Regal 11-16-2013 04:03 PM

i also have to question this 8 year old's methods of experimentation. n = 1 is a very small sample size. in fact, the smallest sample size possible.

Starla 11-16-2013 05:23 PM

My daughter did a science project where she watered one plant with tap water, and another with filtered. The tap watered plant died. I haven't tried microwaved water. The water here smells too bleachy :[

Rairun 11-16-2013 05:30 PM

Yeah, as you guys have already mentioned, the test wasn't blinded and the sample size was as small as it could be. But to be honest, I doubt it was an honest (but ill-devised) experiment. It's probably just hoax.

killtrocity 11-16-2013 10:51 PM

Most likely. This seems like some hippie anarchist or something trying to "prove" the harmful effects of microwaves, oblivious to the fact that while microwaves can in theory denature macromolecules possessing complex structures such as proteins or DNA, water doesn't have any of the aforementioned features and therefore there is no reason that a plant would be killed by microwaved water unless the water was scalding hot when administered to the plant, and therefore testing the effects of pure microwaved water on a plant is simply pointless. Microwaves are on the long wavelength, low energy side of the EMS (opposite gamma rays and x-rays, which have wavelengths close to the size of atoms). All a microwave does is add heat to a system.

Trotskilicious 11-16-2013 11:26 PM

looks liek fackts to me

slunken 11-16-2013 11:41 PM

So you're saying that a middle school girl did NOT turn the world of science on its head?

Trotskilicious 11-17-2013 12:23 AM

i think they are obvisoly trying to cover their shame at being otsmarted it's obsurd how arrogant sientists are

slunken 11-17-2013 01:28 AM

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...psa9b6b7b5.jpg

killtrocity 11-17-2013 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4023365)
So you're saying that a middle school girl did NOT turn the world of science on its head?

This is being spread around by chemophobes/naturalists/libertarians/etc. as some sort of proof that natural = good when it comes to food, or for that matter, anything. It's veiled anti-intellectualism

killtrocity 11-17-2013 03:16 AM

Ya know, let's just go back to living in trees and forget about rules and shit and all of our problems will go away, that sort of sentiment

reprise85 11-17-2013 09:52 AM

yeah i sometimes wonder about the logic of "man made" = unnatural. i mean, we're part of nature after all

hnibos 11-17-2013 01:02 PM

A/C is an abomination because it is NOT natural!

duovamp 11-17-2013 01:04 PM

Showering is not natural.


Is it?

killtrocity 11-17-2013 03:59 PM

Nope, nor are vaccinations, airplanes, napkins, staplers, toenail clippers, refrigerators, hockey pads, tampons, light bulbs, chairs, emergency medicine, aspirin...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemophobia

Here are some interesting comments:

http://www.naturalnews.com/042935_ra...rocessing.html

(note #5: yeah man, fuck antibiotics!)

Everyone's an expert. If you actually follow the science.naturalnews link, the first article is on safety concerns associated with consumption of raw milk, and this is promptly followed by two comments stating that the article is a lie and that the government is opposed to raw milk and therefore it must be a good thing, respectively


Natural: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin that's just the pop culture example, there are countless cytotoxins found in nature


EVERYTHING is toxic in large enough amounts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

hnibos 11-17-2013 04:51 PM

If it is not natural then it is an abomination and an AFFRONT to GOD!!!!

Trotskilicious 11-18-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reprise85 (Post 4023411)
yeah i sometimes wonder about the logic of "man made" = unnatural. i mean, we're part of nature after all

that's what i say to defend fake tits

MusicMan4 11-18-2013 05:17 PM

Raw milk is good though

MusicMan4 11-18-2013 05:22 PM

I think completely dismissing the "naturalists" is as bad an extreme as what you accuse them of but whatever
I willingly am pumped up with every damn chemical and gmo sugar carb I can find

Trotskilicious 11-18-2013 05:25 PM

and now hormones

Trotskilicious 11-18-2013 05:25 PM

deer spray and estrogen

MusicMan4 11-18-2013 05:26 PM

Just the estrogen
I was including that in my statement

killtrocity 11-18-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeris Hilton (Post 4023572)
I think completely dismissing the "naturalists" is as bad an extreme as what you accuse them of but whatever
I willingly am pumped up with every damn chemical and gmo sugar carb I can find

True, but the actual reasons for potential harms are going to be far more nuanced than the naturalists would have one believe, and indeed it is because of those complications that potential harms could in theory go undetected. That being said, in most cases of non-natural products, the substance in question has been thoroughly vetted. Proteins and such are a more complicated issue largely because protein-protein interaction remain uncharacterized in many instances


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