ACA and Obama's pen
 

Curios if you all have any feelings about Obama striking out quite a bit of the ACA recently. Expectations for savings have been shown to be wrong, the income mandate and employee mandate essentially gone.

Didn't know he had that authority. What provision are gone, exactly?

I haven't really studied all the changes myself yet, but here is the delay in employee healthcare mandate (http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/po...ntil-2015.html).

Here is info about the income part (http://www.californiahealthline.org/...cation-process).

Obama's administration delayed the employee mandate. From most nonpartisan reports I've read, the ACA has been found to greatly increase costs. My company's insurance premiums went up 37 percent specifically due to cited ACA costs, for instance.

I'm for the provision generally, support universal healthcare, but have always questioned the ACA's cost controlling measures. We'll see where this goes, but Obama's actions have weakened it before it began really.

Not really. Bill was always a turd.

i was under the impression the mandate (at least the employer one) was just moved back a year. the entire thing wouldn't work without it

edit. nvm you already mentioned it

The reform is already making an impact on the working poor up here. With a loss in pay due to the "taxes", and loss of insurance that people already had, once their job was cut to part time. There's been a jump in applicants for SNAP and the local churches are in need of more donations for food.

Mostly the problems that I have heard is, people who have lost hours, wages, and insurance they already had, and don't know how they will afford to buy into a plan. I don't see how it's a good thing. We need something, but this isn't it.

It's a Clusterfuck. It's meant to be. end game is to rid private insurance and private practices with everyone on the guv system to be tracked and monitored for 'healthy' behavior. It's a collective now, so the state basically gives itself this right. Don't forget compliance will be enforced by the IRS.


but nah, nothing Stasi or Stalinistic about any of it. Nothing to see here, move along...

i hope they're using their food stamps with their tea party shirt on

this president sucks like woah

it's gonna be hilarious if this ACA turns out to be an absolute debacle we might as well just all commit suicide on the spot

whats it take to reach absolute debacle?

democrats circa 2009: "It's so complicated we can't even explain it but just give it some time, you'll fuckin love it!"

dont do it trots

It's actually pretty well on its way to functioning as intended now.

yeah good thing they got that all sorted out

some of my right wing friends on facebook have signed up for their insurance and are pretty excited about it. it's been very hard to not put 'thanks, obama!' on every post.

"OCA and Obama's penis"

that's nonsense. there's nothing in the ACA to incentivize employers to drop health care or fire people. In fact, there's an incentive for small employers to actually offer health insurance.

While early, there's no data yet to suggest that the trend of employers dropping health insurance benefits has deviated at all from the rate that we've seen over the past decade.

One thing that is happening, though. Is that employers are using it as an excuse and cover for what they were going to do anyway.

post a chart or something, that should settle it

I see that Scotty is still stuck on obama's fantasy island.

lets wait on the chart first starla, minds may be blown

lol whyyyyy did I click on politics forum tonight. *running away*

everything obama does now is ****

gotta love consistency

he's upper middle class and white which is when you get everything you want

Obama On Executive Actions: ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’

“We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone,” Obama said Tuesday as he convened his first Cabinet meeting of the year.

Obama continued: ”And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward in helping to make sure our kids are getting the best education possible, making sure that our businesses are getting the kind of support and help they need to grow and advance, to make sure that people are getting the skills that they need to get those jobs that our businesses are creating.”

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/...e-got-a-phone/

it took him five years to figure out what they were I guess

or maybe..
http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/obamaphone.jpg

this fucking shitbrick is talking about education after six years? god, fuck him

Up his ass? Too late now.

too busy hitting up jay z on boost mobile

While the president recognized the surveillance program has grown in recent years, he also strongly defended those who work in the intelligence community, saying they do not abuse power. "After all," he said, "the folks at NSA and other intelligence agencies are our neighbors and our friends."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white...dence-20140117

i bet they have been placed as our neighbors and friends

That's some big brother shit

it's cool,he's got this