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Starla 06-12-2013 02:00 AM

toc, I think you've been fooled by this latest theatrical production put on by the administration. Snowden, NSA, Verizon, and the latest "If you don't trust the govt, then we're going to have problems".

Trotskilicious 06-12-2013 10:19 AM

yeah omega, what about how convenient it is that SNOWDEN has SECRETS?

i mean come on they're basically acting like nobody's ever read catch-22

this is alllllllllllllllllllll part of the plan

duovamp 06-12-2013 02:28 PM

So Booth was the first Asian president space lizard.

I knew it.

Starla 06-12-2013 05:33 PM

Everything that Snowden has been telling us isn't anything new. With the patriot act, I think we pretty much figured that we are being spied on anyway. This just came out, yet no one is making a big fuss out of it and people are still using google.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/...-over-data-fbi

Quote:

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge has ordered Google (GOOG) to comply with FBI warrantless demands for customer data.

U.S. District Court Judge Susan Illston on Tuesday rejected Google's argument that the so-called National Security Letters were unconstitutional and unnecessary. Google could appeal the decision. The company declined to comment Friday.

Trotskilicious 06-12-2013 05:40 PM

yeah did any of you people watch the wire

freeman was all up on this shit

The Omega Concern 06-12-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starla (Post 3993379)
Everything that Snowden has been telling us isn't anything new. With the patriot act, I think we pretty much figured that we are being spied on anyway. This just came out, yet no one is making a big fuss out of it and people are still using google.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/...-over-data-fbi




greenburg patsy actor or not, the info coming from this character is real in its consequences...sooooo, here we go.


yes, I remember when the ACLU and the Christian Coalition were on the same side against the Patriot Act originally. In their bones, both knew the worst was approaching.


annnnd, here we are.


Is the dude working for the devil worshiping elites or is he actually taking them on?


The devilish view has this this all eventually legitimizing open surveillance of the public, an agenda the media and some fake polls will push. Not to mention the sheep. Cashless society within a decade with every transaction and conversation you have with anyone recorded by big brother. The stage is set as Agenda 21 has made the state houses of government mimic the larcenous behavior of the federal government.


The Angel outlook has this bringing down the cabal through their control of this government from the inside out. The Senators screaming loudest for his head, are probably the ones with the most to hide and are genuinely freaked out. This scenario ends with a total revamp of the government, with a martial law reset while "white hats" try to quickly as possible establish an interim government until a special election.



out of a kaleidoscope of scenarios, that's the best blue pill/red pill i can come up with this quick. at that, i'm thinking mainly domestic and not WWIII and the nephalim anti-christ rising up to stop it and shit.

The Omega Concern 06-12-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3993312)
yeah omega, what about how convenient it is that SNOWDEN has SECRETS?

i mean come on they're basically acting like nobody's ever read catch-22

this is alllllllllllllllllllll part of the plan



his level of clearance and know-how has probably gained him the goods on the government itself and the info could bring it down. Something both the black and white hats need to happen, but for different reasons.



i'm still sussing out snowman himself...the g/f media story I'm staying away from, but its presence reeks of psy-op quite frankly (all staged with actors)

null123 06-12-2013 09:56 PM

sounds really exciting, T.O.C.

Starla 06-12-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3993380)
yeah did any of you people watch the wire

freeman was all up on this shit

I've never watched it. Maybe I should?

duovamp 06-13-2013 08:41 AM

Baby, it'll blow your mind.

Trotskilicious 06-13-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starla (Post 3993416)
I've never watched it. Maybe I should?

One of the less celebrated aspects of the Wire is that it's not only a realistic drama about urban and social decay but it's also a brief history of law enforcement & cell phones.

Trotskilicious 06-13-2013 10:29 AM

*The HBO television program "THE WIRE".

duovamp 06-13-2013 10:48 AM

Let's talk more about Snowden's girlfriend plz.

Banana 06-13-2013 08:30 PM

Anyone else think the government now saying that Syria used chemical weapons just to get the public attention off of the NSA leak? Everyone knew they used them months ago when it was first reported, the government had just said they didn't think they were used because they didn't want to get publicly involved in Syria.

The Omega Concern 06-14-2013 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana (Post 3993604)
Anyone else think the government now saying that Syria used chemical weapons just to get the public attention off of the NSA leak? Everyone knew they used them months ago when it was first reported, the government had just said they didn't think they were used because they didn't want to get publicly involved in Syria.



partially, but this group has been targeting a WWIII for years now.


understand the clusterfuck here: these rebels are just mercenaries for the british banks vis a vis the u.s. but more specifically nato. they support 'al qaida' and thus the veil is lifted and you can see part of the wizard -- the one fighting al qaida in afghanistan is the same one supporting them in Syria.


that conspiracy cat is out of the bag now. you may notice the absence of any inquiry from the corporate media. they are the newspeak of the day. you may want to filter their content going forward.

and...there's no way of knowing who actually dropped these chemical weapons if in fact any were used.

The Omega Concern 06-14-2013 01:22 AM

Jon Rappaport's analysis of Snowden here is the meaty stuff I like to chew on.


All you Occam Razor fans try this on for size:





Did the CIA give the NSA documents to Ed Snowden?




Quote:

Is it likely he could have accessed and snatched thousands of highly classified NSA documents?

“Let’s see. Who’s coming to work for us here at NSA today? Oh, new whiz kid. Ed Snowden. Outside contractor. He’s not really a full-time employee of the NSA. Twenty-nine years old. No high school diploma. Has a GED. He worked for the CIA and quit. Hmm. Why did he quit? Oh, never mind, who cares? No problem.

“Tell you what. Let’s give this kid access to our most sensitive data. Sure. Why not? Everything. That stuff we keep behind 986 walls? Where you have to pledge the life of your first-born against the possibility you’ll go rogue? Let Snowden see it all. Sure. What the hell. I’m feeling charitable. He seems like a nice kid.”






Quote:

Here is a more likely scenario.

Snowden never saw any of those thousands of documents on an NSA computer. Never happened.

Instead, he was either used or volunteered as a CIA operative to carry the endless turf war between CIA and NSA a new step forward. People at the CIA WERE able to access those NSA documents and they gave the documents to Snowden and he ran with them.




https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...to-ed-snowden/

Future Boy 06-14-2013 01:29 AM

fuck man why cant you just let some things be what they are

hnibos 06-14-2013 11:53 AM

One would think that TOC would have disappeared by now with all these truths he knows.

Trotskilicious 06-14-2013 11:59 AM

unless maybe he is a shapeshifting ishtarian lucepherian snake jew

Future Boy 06-14-2013 10:30 PM

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my favorite part is mika's stupid ass going with the "that we know of" defense right after they play the video of clapper lying to congress

The Omega Concern 06-16-2013 11:10 PM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg





GCHQ intercepted foreign politicians' communications at G20 summits




Exclusive: phones were monitored and fake internet cafes set up to gather information from allies in London in 2009




Quote:


Foreign politicians and officials who took part in two G20 summit meetings in London in 2009 had their computers monitored and their phone calls intercepted on the instructions of their British government hosts, according to documents seen by the Guardian. Some delegates were tricked into using internet cafes which had been set up by British intelligence agencies to read their email traffic.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ju...ns-g20-summits






Just in time for Obama's G8 meeting. Should make for a comfortable setting over there...errrrrr...

Trotskilicious 06-17-2013 11:51 AM

i think this snowden guy is a total narcissist that wants to be a global symbol of "freedom"

all of his fucking interviews and shit are starting to make me ill, is there any member of my generation that isn't wholly devoted to the pursuit of self

The Omega Concern 06-17-2013 12:51 PM

yah, today there's a Q n A with him on some chat line. People asking him questions and he's answering them.



wtf?



holy psy-op batman. Sure looks like he's got handlers taking care of the talking points and how they get out there.

jczeroman 06-17-2013 01:44 PM



Trotskilicious 06-17-2013 02:21 PM

how much could a low level flunky possibly know though? it just strikes me as relentless navel gazing. "Oh look everyone, I'm the greatest. Ask me questions because I am your savior and hero!"

i mean i'm not against the leak

i am against his fucking public posturing

FutureBoy 06-17-2013 06:56 PM

The more he's in the public the harder it is for them to kill him.

The Omega Concern 06-17-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3994213)
how much could a low level flunky possibly know though? it just strikes me as relentless navel gazing. "Oh look everyone, I'm the greatest. Ask me questions because I am your savior and hero!"

i mean i'm not against the leak

i am against his fucking public posturing




right.


That aspect feeds Jon Rappaports and others conjecture that he's being handled and given this information to fuck with the NSA from the inside, since he was one of them.

low level lackeys don't have access to this info. it's a ruse to say he did.

Future Boy 06-17-2013 09:15 PM

no it isnt, be quiet

Trotskilicious 06-18-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureBoy (Post 3994278)
The more he's in the public the harder it is for them to kill him.

pft lol

Starla 06-20-2013 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern (Post 3994202)
yah, today there's a Q n A with him on some chat line. People asking him questions and he's answering them.



wtf?



holy psy-op batman. Sure looks like he's got handlers taking care of the talking points and how they get out there.


I told you. It's all bullshit.


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